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Originally Posted by Nella

I do not agree that you weren't out of line. You asked me if I could read and you even asked me if English was my first language! That is very belittling! I even posted an apology to you in that thread for making a mistake as I read a couple of posts wrong and retaliated.

1) You don't have to agree with me....I said nothing out of line, it's a fact and I stand by it.

2) You accused Urge of calling you a bitch, when he didn't, so HE was the one who questioned your reading ability

3) After 3 attempts to explain the same common phrase to you (which you were obviously having difficulty grasping) I came to the conclusion that perhaps English wasn't your first language (I can't imagine any English-speaking person having never heard the phrase "bitch and whine"), so I asked...I could have just as easily surmised other possible reasons for your failure to comprehend and questioned those, however the 'language barrier' was the first one that entered my mind.

After you finally 'got it' and realized that Urge did NOT call you a name, you apologized and it was dropped...Until you just brought it up again, for the second time AFTER the issue was dropped.

Originally Posted by Nella

I was not telling you all how to run the forum but I have a right to disagree when someone is being ridiculed.

As do WE

Originally Posted by Nella

You even told me I should leave and you allowed the attack on me to continue so I had no choice but to defend myself. I know that some of the things I said were wrong. However, I did not call anyone names

1) I remind EVERYONE that they have the option to leave if they don't like our forum, our members, or the way we do things here...You are no exception

2) You called Murderdoll a racist...You don't know her well enough to make that judgement...The rest of us know that she is a bitch, not a racist...She knows that, too and doesn't try to hide it...We accept her as she is because we KNOW her, and she is a part of our community.

3) You have made many similar assessments about our members (who you do not know), and many of us do not appreciate that

Originally Posted by Nella

When I came here, you did not say hello to me. You did not even interact with me until I posted that thread.

1) I don't normally "interact" with anyone until I see what they're about, I made no exception pertaining to you

2) You made your thread to admonish other members about their behavior, they didn't appreciate it, especially from a new person who doesn't know them, it caused conflict so I had no choice but to respond...My first response to you (in that thread) was to defend Urge...I wouldn't have needed to defend him, if you hadn't attacked him.

Originally Posted by Nella

You will have to point out the threads with my "incessant complaining." I don't think my complaints have been incessant or demanding. I have not instigated anything either. There is a PROBLEM when the other members gang up on a newbie, especially last night.

1) You have complained many times, I'm not the only one who has noticed, I'm surprised that you haven't...You are complaining in this post

2) Your thread that I removed caused a lot of conflict - that's instigatory

3) When you call out the members of a forum (as in your removed thread), they fire back

Originally Posted by Nella

When I introduced myself here, Return was the first to make a snide remark when I said I liked it here. Zwoti even commented on his remark and showed a list of members who had been banned. Return decided to edit his post afterward.

1) It sounds to me like this 'situation' was dealt with...Why bring it up again?.

2) This sounds a lot like a complaint.

3) If a "snide remark" ruffles your feathers, there is absolutely no way that you can make it at this forum...This is a horror forum, not a Disney forum.

Originally Posted by Nella

When I said that last night was a big mess, I was also referring to my own posts. Also, I did not direct that thread at a lot of members who decided to post in it with hateful remarks to me.

1) We are a close-knit community, almost a family, we defend each other...No matter who you DID direct the thread to, the rest of the forum takes offense

2) If you ONLY wanted to direct your thread to a limited number of members, and you did not want 'others' to comment on it, you should have made your comments in a PM to those specified members rather than bringing it to the open forum.

3) When you post on the forum, you must expect EVERYONE to respond...That's what the forum is for - open discussion

Originally Posted by Nella

Even newb and Jenna had no valid reason to say what they said.

1) Newb and Jenna have been here long enough to say whatever they choose to say...They don't need to validate their reasons to you, or anyone else here.

2) The very fact that they responded to you negatively proves that there was a serious problem

3) Neither of them called you a name...They both expressed their dissatisfaction with the conflict your thread was causing...Newb did little more than remind you that you have the option to leave the forum

Originally Posted by Nella

I didn't read all of those threads but the titles of them were obviously meant to harass a newbie.

1) If you don't read a thread, you can't (shouldn't) really comment on it

2) What I saw was an attempt to TEASE a new member...That happens here sometimes (not just with new members, but with everyone)...If you had been here a while you would have known that, as it is, you are still very new yet admonishing our long-term forum members for what YOU perceive to be inappropriate...That does not play well here, as you are finding out.

3) No one was 'harassed'...Even Leprucky herself posted in those threads...SHE knows how to take it in stride, and play along with us, and she has taken FAR more grief here than you have...From my experience, I would have to say that SHE is the type of person that would survive here, and you are likely not.

4) If you HAD read the threads, you would have seen that we made them relevant, and responded to the topic of the threads...Except for the utterly ridiculous underwear thread, that was also started by a NEW member (one that YOU have buddied up to), was not responded to well, and was subsequently removed.

Originally Posted by Nella

I just think that you're being unfair.

1) Most of the complaints I get are based on me being TOO lenient

2) I'm far more than "fair"

Originally Posted by Nella

Please forgive me and give me the chance I didn't get from very many members here from the beginning.

1) It's not up to me to forgive anyone...If the individual members of the forum choose to accept you, that's their prerogative...If they don't, there's nothing wrong with that...You can't expect everyone to accept you.

2) All new members get the same 'chance', no one singled you out.

3) We all went through the same hazing...Some make it, some don't