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Old 09-25-2008, 11:58 AM
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i want to say that maybe i used the word 'hate' to hastily ... but man, i think of the example of wifebeating and rape, and abandonment, and casual bullshit i've had to listen to for years - and i dunno.

strong dislike ? definately a complete lack of respect (in my world thats as close to hate as you can get)


i understand where you're coming from re. wifebeating as a strong VS weak thing .. but i still believe it;s a male/female thing.

i definately believe the majority of men that abuse women do it because yes - the woman is physically weaker - but there's also contempt as a result of the husband/wife rolls. i dont believe most of these guys would physically strike a weaker man ... there isnt the same inherent problem there.
I've never heard a guy say 'the bitch just doesn't listen' about a buddy. the dynamic is very much different.

of course there are those complete psychos that cannot control their anger in any circumstances and attack anything any anyone - but i'm not talking about them - there really arent that many - outside of jail.


i know we feel advanced and superior here in north america - we've made some strides .. but we're far from 100% equality.

men still get paid more for the same job in many many instances.
there is still the glass ceiling ... i've seen some progress with women directors - they're usually in HR.

i know anyone can cite major exceptions to this - but holy crap - there's still no comparrison.

i say great - if you've managed to surround yourself with men who aren't like this ... (although sometimes you never know)

i personally wouldnt spend time - voluntarily - around people like this either.
my friends arent - nor are they racist .. but sadly i see evidence of it everywhere. it started to come together like pieces in a huge puzzle a few months ago ... and now it's so completely clear to me.



so maybe - against my better judgement - i should change the wording to ...

Most Men Don't Respect or Care for Women That Much .... but jesus it just doesnt seem strong enough to me.

when there isnt a reported rape every 1.3 minutes in the USA

(one source : 683,000 adult American women are forcibly raped each year. This equals 56,916 per month; 1,871 per day; 78 per hour; and 1.3 per minute)

then i'll revamp my stance on this ...
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