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Originally Posted by joshaube
I agree that this discussion is fun. I am glad that no one became the typical forum troll, and started a havoc. It was nice having an actual discussion, with actual points - solid points.
None of my friends IRL are that into movies. They chat while in theatres, and if at home, they tend to do other things - letting the movie act as background noise. It really gets to me. I remember seeing the third X-Men film with a few friends, and afterwards, trying to discuss the subtexts within the film's main plotline. All I got was a "HUH?" and a response similar to: "It was about mutants... what were you watching?"
And that plotline in X-Men 3 was about as obvious as a metaphor gets.
I admit at first, I was sort of trying to poke at you and say "Are you sure you understand?" and made an attempt to persuade you to change your mind. I'm notorious for trying to persuade people into following my own opinion. But I understand now that it was not a case of not understanding anything, it was merely a matter of you not liking it; plain and simple. You understood everything (better then most who LOVE the film), and you were able to see the good in the film, you just didn't like it as much as a few others. That's understandable.
I hope there's more of these friendly discussions in the future; they're better then the "I didn't like this film." "Your retarded!" "I hate this forum..." "THEN LEAVE!!!" banter that occasionally occurs here.
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After some hefty Christmas shopping tonight, I'm heading out to see I Am Legend with one of the less movie-numb friends I have.
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Oh, man, I think you just made my day... :)
Yeah, the Pan's Labyrinth discussion is definitely worth merit... Honestly, two of my close friends LOVED it and refused to listen to my reasons for NOT liking it (which frustrates me because I put a LOT of thought into my movie opinions - as corny as it sounds). I hate being written off as "Just a snob," when, really there are REASONS I feel the way I feel... Probably the same for you, Josh, Rod, and other people around here who think a LOT and analyze movies.
It's funny because the Pan's Labyrinth discussion reminds me of a discussion I had with a friend of mine on 28 Days Later... He LOVED the movie and thought that I was incredibly DAFT for not liking it.
So we went point by point, hashing out every single PRO and every single CON of the movie, and we agreed on ALL of its strengths and weaknesses... It just so happened that HE thought that the strengths outweighed the weaknesses, while I thought the opposite.
I think it's the same situation here - I feel as though the weaknesses of Pan's Labyrinth outweigh the strengths... And some of the directorial choices that have been seen as strengths, I see as weaknesses...
But at least we all agree on the main points of the film... :)
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I can totally sympathize with the friends who talk through movies or don't even bother to watch them at home... It drives me CRAZY, especially if it's a movie that I feel passionately about.
I saw the second Matrix movie with two groups of friends: With the first group of friends, we took a couple of hours to discuss the philosophy of the movie (ignoring ITS weaknesses) and what we hoped to see in the third.
The SECOND group of friends - I TRIED to get them to talk, but they were just like, "Heh. Fighting scenes."
It was a sad, sobering experience. :(
I know that the second Matrix movie isn't everyone's favorite, but there were a lot of themes in there that were worth discussion...
anyway...