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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey

Bush doesn't want to admit that his real purpose for the invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with Suddam..its all about controlling the oil.

There's plenty of oil In Saudi Arabia and other places in the middle east, and we have quite a bit of our own...I'd say if we had to go through so much in one tiny country, it just wouldn't be worth it

Originally Posted by stubbornforgey

Lets admit it..if a war broke out in America today..or anywhere in the other parts of the western world TODAY..
do you think our head of states stand side by side with the soldiers to defend its ppl..??

No, because that's not the job they signed on for...The soldiers are called 'soldiers' for a reason...The cooks wouldn't be fighting either

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

A similar number of the US military serving in Iraq think they should be gone by now.

Yeah, If someone was shooting at ME and people were dying all around me, I'd say it was time for ME to get the hell outta Dodge, too...

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

Other 'unfixed' continents have a far worse child-soldier policy

This is true

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

don't forget your recently resigned Defence Secretary was a keen supplier of weapons and tactics to Iraq and the Saddam Hussein regime.

That was a different time, for a different scenario, they needed help against Iran...You've never had a 'friend' who eventually became an 'enemy'?

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

Clearly things are not quite as black and white

That's true of many things...Can't disagree with that

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

including Iraq already being the enemy of the United States

Iraq is overrun with religious extremists...According to their (the extremists interpretations of) 'religion', we (and many others) are enemies of Allah...And...Enemies of Allah must be killed

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

with nonexistent weapons of mass destruction and unconfirmed harbouring of Al-Qaeda

The weapons were there, Hussein used them against his own people...He refused (for YEARS) to allow inspectors to see his cache...Why would he do that if he had nothing to hide?...Especially when faced with the threat of punishment and losing so many privileges?...America let the entire WORLD know its every move...They knew what America planned to do, and when they planned to do it...Hell, they even watched the planes take off on television...Tactically, it was extremely stupid...But, everything has to be done 'up front', right?...So, they had plenty of time to get rid of everything, and plenty of people willing to help them do it

As for Al-Qaeda...They're STILL there

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

including your statement that most Iraqis want most Americans dead - what is your source of information?

I already explained what I meant by that (the whole 'enemies of Allah' thing), but if you want a source...Let me know what sources YOU trust, and who you feel can be believed to tell the entire truth, without putting a spin on anything...Then I'll try to locate something from that source

The accuracy of just about anything can be disputed...Especially when even history books have been doctored (we know this to be true, too...But, I don't have a specific source for THAT either...)...Guess I just have to say, this is what I believe to be true