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Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
I don't consider anything petty about this discussion, and nobody is saying there are no non-religious degenerates.
My stance is that spiritual and divine faith is an ideology borne from darker, more ignorant times when science was undeveloped and humans more easily led through through fear and tyranny.
Torture and capital punishment, female circumcision with razor blades, human sacrifices, personality-draining hiveminded gatherings, abstinence from the finer things in life, enforced guilt over natural behaviour and acts, obsessive compulsive behaviour upon fear of dire consequences, neglect of everyday life in favour of pandering to imaginary things, mutated interpretations convincing sadists and perverts to break the law... all carried out in the name of religion and 'beliefs'.
It ain't healthy, brothers and sisters.
Why do I need evidence to prove there is not a God? You need evidence to prove it - unless you consider yourself outside of the logical mindset of scientific laws and exist primarily within your own belief system. Supergood if you do, but contrary to your statement we can prove our theories of evolution with rock hard evidence, so that is most Christians hung out to dry (until of course they start moving the goalposts to accomodate irrefutable scientific discoveries and start talking about different interpretations of The Bible etc etc yawn).
When you die, you die - once you accept it you can undoubtedly make more of your life. And if your alternative beliefs are as sure and strong as many claim they are, you'll have no problem with a young internet whippersnapper like me trying to tell you otherwise - it's just another point of view.
Peace
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Oh...my...god...have you even read my responses? You keep bringing in the actions of people as an indication of the religion, when that's not how it works. "Oh, but there's torture and mu-" NO. Those are the actions of people who either think they are doing what their religion says they should or just using the religion as an excuse to control people through fear and commit atrocities. Bad? Of course. Indicitive of the actual religion? No. How many times am I going to have to say it?
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Why do I need evidence to prove there is not a God? You need evidence to prove it - unless you consider yourself outside of the logical mindset of scientific laws and exist primarily within your own belief system. Supergood if you do, but contrary to your statement we can prove our theories of evolution with rock hard evidence, so that is most Christians hung out to dry (until of course they start moving the goalposts to accomodate irrefutable scientific discoveries and start talking about different interpretations of The Bible etc etc yawn).
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There is no proof God exists. There is no proof that he doesn't exist. Neither side can prove themselves right. It works both ways, Pr3ssur3. If you do not have evidence to back up a claim you are making then you need to leave it out of the discussion. Period. If YOU are the one bringing the existence of God, or lack thereof, into the discussion, then it is on YOU to prove it. You'll notice I haven't once said that God is real or that there is an afterlife or anything. Why? Because there's no evidence on EITHER side of the argument, so it would just boil down to "prove it!" "no, YOU prove it!", and that's just petty squabbling.
EDIT: And you're also still using a stance on Christianity-related religions and expanding it to religion as a whole, which is insanely ignorant.