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Originally posted by Vodstok
Most of the people in the military these days are there to pay for college. Bush kind of fucked up their plans. Granted, he cant be faulted for calling people to do what they signed up for, but dont mistake it for "voluntary".
For the record, I lived 9 years of my life in Europe and yes, most other countries DO dislike America immensly, even our allies. I have heard it from their own mouths, there is no better proof than that. (for the record, i appreciate all of the non-americans in here never once going off on an "America sucks" tangent)
I dont like Bush one bit. Nor Cheney. I am not "Liberal", nor am i "Conservative". I am Independant. i think for myself. I am immune tio both political party's influence. Bush is an uneducated spoiled moron. He has a Falwellesque way of using his religion to justify his decisions. And i agree, the current crop of Republicans in high office are more facist than they are "American". Freedom, of speech, of thought AND the right to take care of ourselves and families is what this country is ALL about.
You call Democrats socialists. Denying a person the right to make decisions about her life, or an adult to make a decision about what kind of entertainment they want is the hallmark of a facist dictatorship, not "The American way". Is Bush a good boy now because he found god? Even though he used Coke and and got a drunk driving charge in college?
I guess not. "He was young." Forgivable if you back the guy, but if a girl goes out and gets laid (or raped in some opinions), she doesnt get any time off for good behavior.
I always find it interesting when a pro-lifer justifies the killing of another person... I guess life ends after you're born. ABortion is wrong, but war is right :rolleyes: .
Dont get me wrong. i am an Air force brat. i spent the first 17 years of my life growing up on military bases. I support the military 100%, andf when they got sent overseas, they had my full backing. The president doesnt, didnt, and never will (as long as it is Georgy) because he is an idiot with Horrible motives. I wouldnt trust him to remember the value of a quarter, let alone with my life or my country.
You seem to forget, the people in here from America, OWN America. I want the government in general to remember, they work for us, not vice-versa. George isnt the head of the country, he is our figurehead. Congress is OUR tool.
And i will not have my employees telling me what i am to do with my life.
In the last election, NEITHER of the candidates got my vote. i voted for John Mccain. Why? Because he gets under EVERYONE'S skin. he is a republican, but the republicans dont like him because he doesnt follow their rules. Granted, he worked with Joe Lieberman and ms Dole to try and ban violent video games, but find me one person that agrees with you 100% on EVERYTHING. I thought he was basically a good man, which is rare in politics.
Sorry about the length of this post. i also apologise for any hostility that may habve come through, but reading through the thread, politeness has gone bye bye.
If anyone thinks i have my head up my ass, i am interested to hear your reasons.
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You have no way of knowing why most people joined the military. Our Military is voluntary! Everyone who joins signs on the dotted line volunteering to fight if called upon.
Anyone who joins for college money is an idiot. Just another bullshit democrat way of thinking... Hmmm? how can I get free college money? Oh I know, I'll join the military and let tax dollars pay for it. hmmm? how can I get more handouts? I know, I'll vote for the democrats so they can take more money from hardworking folks and give it to me so I don't have to work hard.
Spending time in Europe does not give you the knowledge to state "most other countries" hate America. If your speaking of other countries governments, your dead wrong. If your trying to speak for the citizens of each country, well that's just silly.
There are millions of people around the world who respect America and are grateful for it's role in the world. Of course there are also people who hate us. Doesn't really matter though, they all come calling when they need help.
Like it or not, America leads the world and without our help (on many levels) whole Countries would collapse.
Comparing abortion to war is laughable.. Do you really not see the difference? Of course there are innocent people dying in wars.... How can you compare that to someone killing a baby because they didn't use birth control?
I don't think anyone other than radical Muslims thinks war is right. Unfortunately it is necessary in this world. History has proven that again and again.
You can thank war for your pampered life in America.