[Arioch]

Well, the only thing that Gothic Chick said in response to my situation was "Blah, blah, blah! The same old list of excuses by someone who refuses to take responsibility and kills his baby for no other reason than selfishness" or something like that. I would quote it directly, but it is too far back in the thread for me to locate.

Gothic Chick, you said that I should "Thank God" at one point. I am going to make an assumption here that may be completely off ... but I'm going to make it anyway. I take it you believe in God (most people who are pro-choice do). If this is so, then what is the problem with sending the unborn baby off to heaven? He (or she) would never have known about the horrors of the real world, nor ever get the opportunity to sin and ruin his chances at eternal life with God. As it is, the fetus got a free ticket to paradise! So ... why are you so adamant about it's death? (That is, if you believe in God.)

I could argue here that your steadfast pro-choice position is not entirely selfless. You are the type of person who would not be able to live with herself if she knew she played any role in an abortion. Which is why you would disown your daughter if she chose to have an abortion (I think that is what you said ... maybe it was less committed than that. Maybe it was more like: "I would refuse to allow it.") Even so, is this not a selfish standpoint? You would rather force your own daughter to do something she does not want to do because you are against the idea, and would not be able to bear it. And, you insist on pushing this same self-centered viewpoint on everyone around you. You can't stand it that other people get abortions, and you want to stop it ... so you can feel good. That's pretty selfish.

Also, I do not agree with the viewpoint that every life is sacred and deserves to be saved. There are millions of people allive today who do nothing but drag the rest of us down. Okay, so a baby is innocent. But, you have to look past your emotions. Think of the consequences that would arise if we made abortion illegal, and assumed that NO women aborted their unwanted pregnancies. Think about that. In my case, I would have to have either gone on welfare, or went homeless. Both of which tax society. And that is just one case! I imagine that my situation occurs in countless families, everyday. You would rather see all of these families go homeless, or on welfare (which you and I have to pay for, mind you), than be allowed to live a fuller, happier life by being allowed the option to choose to abort an accidental pregnancy? Think of how fast our society would plummet down the toilet! Sure, we're saving all the babies ... but now, they're growing up poor, uneducated, and running rampant in the streets! While the rest of us have to pick up second and third jobs just to afford to live since much of our money will be going to support these kids. Then, once we're all working all of these extra jobs, family-time is gone. Our kids end up having to raise themselves ... and 9 times out of then, those kids become criminals as well.

But ... save the cute, innocent babies. Forget all that other stuff. It is not imoprtant.

Goddamn well thought out! Good form, Stingy. Damn that was well put...