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TrueFan 08-04-2004 03:23 PM

Dog Soldiers...NOT a horror film..cheap slasher
 
Remember, lesson 1...difference between horror and slasher.

zwoti 08-04-2004 03:26 PM

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kpropain 08-04-2004 03:31 PM

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kpropain 08-04-2004 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by MD2
OUT-FUCKING-STANDING!!!!!

Hey True Fan, get a clue will ya?

Nobody gives a fuck what you think!!!!!!!

Participate, dont walk your "I know it all!" ass in this house and start with the lessons.

Damn right cause you will get slapped down like a two dollar hooker in the street...

jay o2 waster 08-04-2004 03:34 PM

Re: BRILLIANT!
 
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Originally posted by TrueFan

what am I to do?

Bend over and brace your self

kpropain 08-04-2004 03:36 PM

Also don't forget....

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jay o2 waster 08-04-2004 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by kpropain
Damn right cause you will get slapped down like a two dollar hooker in the street...
yeah but a two dollar hooker would at least have the decency to gain 500 posts before trying to tell us what is what, and also she would suck my dick while doing it

TrueFan 08-04-2004 03:37 PM

HAHAHA
 
I see I am in the midst of true grit and wit here! "Fuck off" and "get lost" well said. Why try being, "all fucking adult and stuff" (sorry, gotta speak the native tounge i guess) and see what i am saying.....I guess ignorance really IS bliss

kpropain 08-04-2004 03:39 PM

Re: HAHAHA
 
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Originally posted by TrueFan
I see I am in the midst of true grit and wit here! "Fuck off" and "get lost" well said. Why try being, "all fucking adult and stuff" (sorry, gotta speak the native tounge i guess) and see what i am saying.....I guess ignorance really IS bliss
And this is coming from the "all knowing" n00b with 9 post..

Congrats chief you deserve a fucking oscar...;)

jay o2 waster 08-04-2004 03:40 PM

Re: HAHAHA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TrueFan
I see I am in the midst of true grit and wit here! "Fuck off" and "get lost" well said. Why try being, "all fucking adult and stuff" (sorry, gotta speak the native tounge i guess) and see what i am saying.....I guess ignorance really IS bliss
not one person on this thread even said "fuck off" or "Get lost" to you, so just so you don't feal like a complete moron I will do u a favor FUCK OFF, GET LOST

Living/Dead 08-04-2004 04:04 PM

The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?

TrueFan 08-04-2004 04:07 PM

THERE WE GO!
 
Good stuff, let's chat it up. First, slasher is just as it decribes. Not much story line, mainly over the top gore which just visually shocks rather than get in you head. Horror, it much different. A great horror film can be made with not a drop of blood. Acutally the best ones are.

zwoti 08-04-2004 04:08 PM

Re: THERE WE GO!
 
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Originally posted by TrueFan
Good stuff, let's chat it up. First, slasher is just as it decribes. Not much story line, mainly over the top gore which just visually shocks rather than get in you head. Horror, it much different. A great horror film can be made with not a drop of blood. Acutally the best ones are.
Slasher film
The slasher film is a sub-genre of the horror film, also referred to as a splatter film. Typically, a masked, psychotic person stalks and graphically kills teenagers who are away from adult supervision.

The two prototypical examples of the genre were John Carpenter's Halloween (1978) and Sean Cunningham's Friday the 13th (1980), both of which spawned numerous sequels and even more imitators. (Although Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) could be seen as the true origin of the form.) Wes Craven's A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) also generated an enduring series. The simple plots, minimal special effects and potent combination of sex and violence made it an easy choice for low-budget filmmaking in the 1980s.

Carol J. Clover, in her book Men, Women and Chain Saws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film, identified what she called the Final Girl trope, the heroic young woman who ultimately survives and defeats the Killer (at least until the sequel). The Final Girl almost invariably has an androgynous name (e.g. Teddy, Billie, Georgie, Sydney) and does not partake of the sex and drugs the other teenagers do. Often, she has shared history with the Killer.

The slasher genre broke into the mainstream in the 1990s, being extensively parodied in Wes Craven's Scream trilogy and Keenen Ivory Wayans' Scary Movie series, but with also many "straight" imitators.

Living/Dead 08-04-2004 04:12 PM

TrueFan
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Good stuff, let's chat it up. First, slasher is just as it decribes. Not much story line, mainly over the top gore which just visually shocks rather than get in you head. Horror, it much different. A great horror film can be made with not a drop of blood. Acutally the best ones are.
IMO this is what your basically saying.

Horror = Good Horror Movie
Slasher = Bad Horror Movie

Slasher is a sub-genre of horror, they are not two seperate categories.

zwoti 08-04-2004 04:17 PM

Horror film

A horror film is a film dominated by elements of horror. This film genre incorporates a number of sub-genres and repeated themes, such as slasher themes, vampire themes, zombie themes, demonic possession and Satanism, alien mind control, evil children, cannibalism, werewolves, animals attacking humans, haunted houses, etc. The horror film genre is often associated with low budgets and exploitation, but major studios and well-respected directors have made intermittent forays into the genre. Some horror films exhibit a substantial amount of cross-over with other genres, particularly science fiction.

Certain stories and themes have proven popular and have inspired many sequels, remakes, and copycats. See Frankenstein, The Creature from the Black Lagoon, Dracula, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, werewolves, and zombies.

wufong 08-04-2004 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Living/Dead
The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?
because it wasn't scary?

Living/Dead 08-04-2004 04:38 PM

Living/Dead
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The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?
wufong
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because it wasn't scary?
So you have to be scared of watching a movie for it to be considered horror?

wufong 08-04-2004 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Living/Dead
Living/Dead


wufong


So you have to be scared of watching a movie for it to be considered horror?

pretty much yes. not saying it was a bad movie or anything. i liked it. but for a true horror ( for me) is one where it freaks/ makes me jump etc. dogs soldiers didnt do it to me. but like isaid it was a good movie.

Vampenguin 08-04-2004 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by wufong
pretty much yes. not saying it was a bad movie or anything. i liked it. but for a true horror ( for me) is one where it freaks/ makes me jump etc. dogs soldiers didnt do it to me. but like isaid it was a good movie.
If that was the case, Id have seen 3 horror movies in my life!

mixojoe 08-05-2004 03:56 AM

horror/comedy yes with an unoriginal plot lol and poor effects

Vodstok 08-05-2004 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by Living/Dead
The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?
Exactly.

ShankS 08-05-2004 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by mixojoe
with an unoriginal plot lol and poor effects
dissagree with that part.

zwoti 08-05-2004 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by ShankS
dissagree with that part.
disagree with that spelling :D

ShankS 08-05-2004 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by zwoti
disagree with that spelling :D
oh stfu

































:D:D :)

zwoti 08-05-2004 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by ShankS
oh stfu





:D:D :)


:D :D :D :D

dantehorrorfan 08-07-2004 01:17 PM

horror is horror its not any different and i have seen no horror movies that have scared me so basiclly there are no horror movies that scare me so byebye

mixojoe 08-08-2004 03:10 AM

It just did not achieve anything new or compelling.

zwoti 08-08-2004 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by mixojoe
It just did not achieve anything new or compelling.
that sounds like virtually every horror film coming out of hollywood to me.

Vodstok 08-09-2004 05:05 AM

These days "Original, new or compelling" is virtually impossible.

I have descibed Dog Soldiers to people as "Aliens with werewolves, set in Scotland". That is basically it. it is simple, and because of it, it is beautiful.

The fact that someone decided to take an ancient "horror" like werewolves and modernise them in this way IS original, the same way Reign Of Fire turned the old Dragon legends into a modern threat. Now, i can see people turning this pseudo-genre into a shit-museum the way they did with "giant killer animals" with Anaconda, curse of the komodo, python, etc..

but it is still new enough to be somewhat "original"

Plus, i LOVE listening to foul-mouthed brits and scots going off. They invented the language, so they use it ina way most of us americans couldnt dream....


"I would rather slog it out with these 'grunts' than take orders from a toffee nosed twat like you, Ryan.." Classic line :)

Preacher 08-17-2004 05:14 AM

Few things......

1) Dog Soldiers is a fuckin good movie

2) Werewolves usually means a horror movie

3) You can mix genres for example Dog soldiers is definately a comedy horror.

But more imprtantly........

4) The most annoying thing Americans do is confuse the words English and British.

BRITAIN IS NOT A COUNTRY - it is made up of a number of different countries. Please learn the difference.

Scottish people ARE ALSO BRITISH

I'm sure some americans/canadians would be offended if people assumed they were from canada/america.

Rant over......bye.

P x

Vodstok 08-17-2004 05:57 AM

Most americans grow up in a shell. all most know about the rest of the world is from movies and tv, neither of which are particularly reliable. Never hurts to correct us :)

I actually lived in europe for 9 years, and no one ever bothered to explain that difference to me.

I always thought it was more horror/action. the comedy was just the result of good writing, rather than it actually being a "comedy"

ABnormaL 08-17-2004 04:57 PM

I loved Dog Soliders! I thought the characters and dialogue were brilliant and the special effects stood up well in my opinion.

massacre man 08-17-2004 05:58 PM

i liked the dog

Sick_As_Fuck 08-18-2004 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Vampenguin
If that was the case, Id have seen 3 horror movies in my life!
Exactly.

massacre man 08-18-2004 07:40 PM

the dog was awesome!

KRUGERKID13 08-18-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by ABnormaL
I loved Dog Soliders! I thought the characters and dialogue were brilliant and the special effects stood up well in my opinion.
its an amzing movie

nightbreed 09-04-2004 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Preacher


4) The most annoying thing Americans do is confuse the words English and British.

BRITAIN IS NOT A COUNTRY - it is made up of a number of different countries. Please learn the difference.

Scottish people ARE ALSO BRITISH


P x

hey preach i need a lil clarification please. what is the difference between britain and whales? is whales a geographic location or is it a term used for all of britain?

LMM 09-10-2004 07:51 AM

Whales are mammals.:D

My PERSONAL (not imposing on anyone) definition of a slasher is a film with a single protagonist (generally a fella with a weapon/tool of some kind :o ) and little or no nods to the supernatural (aside from resilience to injury).

Vodstok 09-10-2004 09:14 AM

Two of the 3 biggest slashers are supernatural:
Jason Voorhees
Freddy Kreuger

That aside, Dog Soldiers could not be farther from slasher...

massacre man 09-10-2004 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Two of the 3 biggest slashers are supernatural:
Jason Voorhees
Freddy Kreuger

That aside, Dog Soldiers could not be farther from slasher...

whoooooo michael myers is different




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