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KRUGERKID13 07-23-2004 11:01 PM

Bush or Kerry
 
of the 2 which one would you like to see elected

KRUGERKID13 07-23-2004 11:02 PM

My vote goes to Bush


Lets not let this get out of hand like the other thread

wufong 07-23-2004 11:05 PM

it's non of business. lol

ShankS 07-23-2004 11:11 PM

errrmm neither, I'm from the Uk:D

Gothic-chick 07-24-2004 05:16 AM

George Bush

he's getting my vote again

friday13thfan 07-24-2004 05:41 AM

kerry kerry kerry

Stingy Jack 07-24-2004 06:21 AM

Kerry. Maybe somebody can get in there and do something about the time-bomb that is the "No Child Left Behind" act before we ruin the education of any more of our nation's children.

Vodstok 07-24-2004 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Kerry. Maybe somebody can get in there and do something about the time-bomb that is the "No Child Left Behind" act before we ruin the education of any more of our nation's children.
[sarcasm]Hey, bush wasnt left behind, and now look, a straight c (because daddy paid for it) student got to be president[/sarcasm}

No offense to bush supporters out there, bu i tink he is an immoral, BAD person who cares only about enfoprcing his own beliefs. fuck him.

KRUGERKID13 07-24-2004 06:49 AM

yeah i hate people who fight for what they believe in what we need is another spineless democrat like clinton back in office.

Arioch 07-24-2004 07:14 AM

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No offense to bush supporters out there, bu i tink he is an immoral, BAD person who cares only about enfoprcing his own beliefs. fuck him.
Agreed.

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yeah i hate people who fight for what they believe in what we need is another spineless democrat like clinton back in office.
I was under the impression that a president was supposed to do whats best for the COUNTRY and its PEOPLE....not his own beliefs:rolleyes:

And if a "spineless democrat like clinton" was in office he would be MUCH more concerned with getting his dick sucked than sending more of our kids to die in a war started under false pretenses...then continued....under more false pretenses....

Maybe its just me, but if my choices are between felatio and war....felatio gets my vote every time;)

Egekrusher 07-24-2004 07:18 AM

Thanks Arioch.

My vote goes to Kerry.

If you really think Bush should remain in office, consider this.

His own cabinet members don't want him back in, along with the former head of the CIA, the current head of the FBI, and most of congress. If you don't believe me, look it up online. Most of his security counsel despises what he has done to this country .

yourlastmistake 07-24-2004 07:30 AM

My votes for Bush


Democrats and socialism go hand in hand. Kerry talks out both sides of his face.What ever the popular consesus at the time is the stance he takes. All he cares about is the vote not what he believes in. Maybe he will follow in clinton's footsteps and let this nation be black mailed by other thug leaders like kim chong il.

You democrats blame bush for nafta when in reality it was the clinton administration that started it all. I'm tired of people hammering bush about the war.Let me get this straight, democrats think as a leader of nations in this world we are expected to help other nations with finacial, health, and security aid. We arent expected to just help but be the savoirs of the world but we can't protect ourselves? Im sick of this shit. What did we do to deserve 9/11?


How quick people forget.Dont you realize those people[radical muslims]dont think the same way as we do.They spend their whole lives trying to kill non-muslims. They are already here.It's
just a matter of time before they strike again.You have to go aboard to try and stop it instead of waiting for it to come to you.


I'm glad Bush has the balls to do whats right for the future of not only this nation but the world. Not just base his actions on what's popular with the masses like several past presidents have done thus getting us in most of the situations we are in today. F.... the UN its obvious they're not and cannot control anything.


BUSH/CHENEY 2004

Arioch 07-24-2004 07:36 AM

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What did we do to deserve 9/11?
Its really a matter of how other countries see us. Believe it or not Americans are pretty well despised across the globe. Other countries tend to think we are overly obsessed with ourselves (as a country) and i definitly agree with that....

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You have to go aboard to try and stop it instead of waiting for it to come to you.
Bush USED 9/11 to go after SADAM who...*NEWSFLASH* ....DIDN'T EXECUTE 9/11. OSAMA BIN LADEN DID. That was in AFGHANISTAN....we are in a war with IRAQ.....see where the misleading is going?? We've been lied to, and any political reason we SHOULD be in this war relating to 9/11 is bullshit....*cough* weapons of mass destruction *cough*

Egekrusher 07-24-2004 07:39 AM

This is too much of a heated topic for me to be in. I'm staying out of this thread. I'll end trying to reach through the monitor and trying to strangle the Bush lovers.

yourlastmistake 07-24-2004 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by Arioch
Its really a matter of how other countries see us. Believe it or not Americans are pretty well despised across the globe. Other countries tend to think we are overly obsessed with ourselves (as a country) and i definitly agree with that....



Bush USED 9/11 to go after SADAM who...*NEWSFLASH* ....DIDN'T EXECUTE 9/11. OSAMA BIN LADEN DID. That was in AFGHANISTAN....we are in a war with IRAQ.....see where the misleading is going?? We've been lied to, and any political reason we SHOULD be in this war relating to 9/11 is bullshit....*cough* weapons of mass destruction *cough*

No ties huh? Thats bullshit. I dont need the liberal media to think for me. Zarqawi is the second in command of Al-Qaida. Isn't he the one in Bagdad cutting peoples heads off? If I'm not mistaken Bagdad is in Iraq. Not to mention they found and destroyed a terrorist training camp in Iraq.
As far as weapons of mass destruction............ Look at past history. He killed hundreds of thousands of kurds with chemical weapons. I work with a guy from Iran and chemical weapons were used on them. Saadam said he had no chemical weapons so it must be true. He is such a moral and honest man.

yourlastmistake 07-24-2004 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by Egekrusher
This is too much of a heated topic for me to be in. I'm staying out of this thread. I'll end trying to reach through the monitor and trying to strangle the Bush lovers.
I wish you could reach through this monitor so I could pull you through and put you out of your misery.

movieman64 07-24-2004 08:13 AM

Irregardless of who wins, I think anyone should be limited to 1 term, (4 years). Whether they perform or not we only have to put up with them for 4 years, our system is in place, (checks and balances) and if it works as intended it should protect us from power hungry zealots. 4 years as President of the United States doesn't look to bad on a resume either.

Arioch 07-24-2004 08:51 AM

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and if it works as intended it should protect us from power hungry zealots. 4 years as President of the United States doesn't look to bad on a resume either.
LOL nice!!

Gothic-chick 07-24-2004 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Arioch
Its really a matter of how other countries see us. Believe it or not Americans are pretty well despised across the globe. Other countries tend to think we are overly obsessed with ourselves (as a country) and i definitly agree with that....



Bush USED 9/11 to go after SADAM who...*NEWSFLASH* ....DIDN'T EXECUTE 9/11. OSAMA BIN LADEN DID. That was in AFGHANISTAN....we are in a war with IRAQ.....see where the misleading is going?? We've been lied to, and any political reason we SHOULD be in this war relating to 9/11 is bullshit....*cough* weapons of mass destruction *cough*


How do you know what other people think of America?? Because the media said so??? And anyhow what does that have to do with anything? A terrorist radical Muslim group came over here and killed thousands of innocent people because they want everyone to think the way they think.

They're going to keep on coming until the end of time unless someone stops them. Wake up man! The war against these crazy terrorists had to start somewhere! Anywhere in the middle east would have been fine with me.

Lets get it done over there before it starts over here because that's their whole purpose in life, death to the west. Those people do not think the same way you do.. Would you strap a bomb to yourself and kill innocent people in the name of what you believe??? I doubt it.... Unless of course you believe in 72 virgins waiting for you in the after life...

bwind22 07-24-2004 08:57 AM

I picked Bush because there were only two options, but I won't be voting for either. I probably won't vote for Nader either.

I hate politicians. Anyone that goes out and actively seeks to become the most powerful person in the world (President of the US) probably shouldn't be given the power, IMO.

I haven't decided how to vote yet, but I'm gonna stay out of this discussion for now....

Gothic-chick 07-24-2004 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by yourlastmistake
I wish you could reach through this monitor so I could pull you through and put you out of your misery.


HA HA me too!

Arioch 07-24-2004 09:12 AM

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How do you know what other people think of America?? Because the media said so??? And anyhow what does that have to do with anything? A terrorist radical Muslim group came over here and killed thousands of innocent people because they want everyone to think the way they think
I have a couple friends that spent a while in Europe for a couple years. I also watch alot of Eddie Izzard, various British culture...

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They're going to keep on coming until the end of time unless someone stops them. Wake up man! The war against these crazy terrorists had to start somewhere! Anywhere in the middle east would have been fine with me.
Im sorry but this, nor any other wars are gonna keep the middle east peacefull and content. These countries have ALWAYS fought with eachother and ALWAYS will. This occupation we are no exercising isn't going to change that, and certainly not their opinion of us (atleast not in any good way, they dont even want us there).

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Lets get it done over there before it starts over here because that's their whole purpose in life, death to the west. Those people do not think the same way you do.. Would you strap a bomb to yourself and kill innocent people in the name of what you believe??? I doubt it.... Unless of course you believe in 72 virgins waiting for you in the after life...
What do you mean "those people"? You dont think this is a race issue do you? And just for the record, i think 72 virgins waiting for me is just as (im)probable as a judge telling me if i was good or bad my whole life at "pearly gates"....but hey thats just me...

Freddy Krueger. 07-24-2004 01:12 PM

Bush sucks. Kerry! Kerry! Kerry!


JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

sugar shane 07-24-2004 01:35 PM

how can anyone say that bush has done what's right for the nation? did he go to war because it was needed or to get re-elected? and if anyone says we needed to get sadaam out of there, I agree- we needed to get him out of there the first time around, but bush sr. let him stay for some reason. hmmm...could that reason be so that his son would have a way to get himself reelected? oh, and by the way, it is well documented that the republican party generaly believes that the type of entertainment that brought us all to this site doesn't belong in our society. censorship,
'big brother", the patriot act? sorry guys, but this very forum, which is a way for us to express ourselves, is not something that these guys are in favor of. questioning our right wing leadership is "anti-American", even though that right is what made America in the first place

sugar shane 07-24-2004 01:38 PM

and by the way, whoever said that these terrorists will keep coming is absolutely right. our very own foreign policy has and will continue to make sure of that. stop the terrorists? stop giving people a reason to become terrorists.

sugar shane 07-24-2004 01:41 PM

let's not elect bush again, just like we didn't elect him the last time.

Arioch 07-24-2004 04:33 PM

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did he go to war because it was needed or to get re-elected? and if anyone says we needed to get sadaam out of there, I agree- we needed to get him out of there the first time around, but bush sr. let him stay for some reason. hmmm...could that reason be so that his son would have a way to get himself reelected?
THANK YOU!!!

MichaelMyers 07-24-2004 06:26 PM

I will be voting Kerry/Edwards.

For the record, regarding the whole Iraq and pre-emptive war doctrine: it is a flawed way to go after terrorists, and here's why.

Country A -

1) Has or may posess WMD
2) Harbors terrorists/members of al-Qaeda
3) Oppresses its own people
4) Is guilty of virulent anti-American rhetoric

Here's the problem:

You can't tell me what country this is.

HappyCamper 07-24-2004 06:45 PM

I'm voting for Kerry, and only because I believe he is the lesser of two evils.

Besides George Dubya Bush is the worst President in the history of our country. He's put our country into more debt than any other President, and he went to war to feed his own ego...and to get oil and to 'get the guy who tried to kill my daddy!'

If Bush gets re-elected, I'm moving to Canada, at least there I'll be able to own a gun, walk into a hospital and get treated for free if i'm hurt. Oh and Bush's twin daughters are lushy whores!


oh look a grassy nole...BANG BANG BANG....back and to the left

orangestar 07-24-2004 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by HappyCamper


Besides George Dubya Bush is the worst President in the history of our country. He's put our country into more debt than any other President, and he went to war to feed his own ego...and to get oil and to 'get the guy who tried to kill my daddy!'



EXACTLY! I wish I could vote just to show my hatred for what Dubya has done to this country. He's following his personal feelings, not doing whats best for the country. Plus he's an idiot who doesnt have basic language skills.

fluffho 07-24-2004 06:53 PM

just something funny someone sent to me

It's difficult to be a Republican in 2004, because you have to simultaneously believe that:

1. Jesus loves you, but shares your deep hatred of homosexuals.

2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, but our /highest
national priority is to enforce UN resolutions against Iraq.

3. Standing Tall for America means firing your workers and moving their jobs
to India.

4. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multinational corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without
regulation.

5. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your
recovery.

6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches, while slashing combat pay and veterans benefits.

7. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins, unless you someday run for
governor of California as a Republican.

8. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

9. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle and alienate our long-time
allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

10. HMOs and insurance companies can make huge profits while having the
interest of the public at heart.

11. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health
care to all Americans is socialism.

12. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.

13. It's okay that the Bush family's Carlisle Group has done millions of
dollars worth of business with the Bin Laden family.

14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him and Rumsfeld reassured him he
was our buddy; a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him; a good guy when
Cheney did business with him; but then a bad guy again when Bush junior needed
a prop for his re-election campaign as the War President.

15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense.
A president lying about the existence of WMDs to enlist support for an
unprovoked, undeclared war and occupation, in which thousands of soldiers and
civilians die, is solid defense policy in a War against Terrorism.

16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution,
which apparently include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

17. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George
Bush's Harken Oil stock trade and his conviction for drunk driving should be
sealed in his Daddy's library, and is none of our business.

18. What Bill Clinton or John Kerry did in the 1960s was of vital national
interest but what Bush did in the 80's is irrelevant.

19. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with
China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

20. Affirmative Action is wrong, but it's OK for your Daddy and his friends
to help you graduate from Yale without studying very much, to dodge the draft
in the Texas Air National Guard, to bail out your poorly run companies (Harken
Oil and the Texas Rangers), to get you the Governorship of Texas and to have
the Supreme Court appoint you President of the USA.

21. You're a conservative, but it's OK to spend like there's no tomorrow and
run up deficits that your grandchildren will have to pay, while at the same
time, refunding as much tax money as possible to the richest 5% of Americans.

22. Call Senator Edwards a "rookie" that doesn't have the experience
necessary to run the country, when our current President was a one term governor and
had never traveled outside the US.

orangestar 07-24-2004 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fluffho
just something funny someone sent to me

It's difficult to be a Republican in 2004, because you have to simultaneously believe that:

1. Jesus loves you, but shares your deep hatred of homosexuals.

2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, but our /highest
national priority is to enforce UN resolutions against Iraq.

3. Standing Tall for America means firing your workers and moving their jobs
to India.

4. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multinational corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without
regulation.

5. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your
recovery.

6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches, while slashing combat pay and veterans benefits.

7. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins, unless you someday run for
governor of California as a Republican.

8. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

9. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle and alienate our long-time
allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

10. HMOs and insurance companies can make huge profits while having the
interest of the public at heart.

11. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health
care to all Americans is socialism.

12. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.

13. It's okay that the Bush family's Carlisle Group has done millions of
dollars worth of business with the Bin Laden family.

14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him and Rumsfeld reassured him he
was our buddy; a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him; a good guy when
Cheney did business with him; but then a bad guy again when Bush junior needed
a prop for his re-election campaign as the War President.

15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense.
A president lying about the existence of WMDs to enlist support for an
unprovoked, undeclared war and occupation, in which thousands of soldiers and
civilians die, is solid defense policy in a War against Terrorism.

16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution,
which apparently include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

17. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George
Bush's Harken Oil stock trade and his conviction for drunk driving should be
sealed in his Daddy's library, and is none of our business.

18. What Bill Clinton or John Kerry did in the 1960s was of vital national
interest but what Bush did in the 80's is irrelevant.

19. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with
China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

20. Affirmative Action is wrong, but it's OK for your Daddy and his friends
to help you graduate from Yale without studying very much, to dodge the draft
in the Texas Air National Guard, to bail out your poorly run companies (Harken
Oil and the Texas Rangers), to get you the Governorship of Texas and to have
the Supreme Court appoint you President of the USA.

21. You're a conservative, but it's OK to spend like there's no tomorrow and
run up deficits that your grandchildren will have to pay, while at the same
time, refunding as much tax money as possible to the richest 5% of Americans.

22. Call Senator Edwards a "rookie" that doesn't have the experience
necessary to run the country, when our current President was a one term governor and
had never traveled outside the US.


Thats some funny stuff! And its all true...makes you think.

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had never traveled outside the US.
I didnt even know that! How the hell did he become our president?

HappyCamper 07-24-2004 07:17 PM

you think that's funny...check this out...

http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/this_land_af

orangestar 07-24-2004 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by HappyCamper
you think that's funny...check this out...

http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/this_land_af


lol, I saw that one. I love the Howard Dean part where he screams.

rae_pierre 07-24-2004 08:36 PM

I want Bush asassinated ASAP.

I don't know much about politics, but from what I have seen, it doesn't look like Bush really thought about or knew what the hell he was doing most times...I do know he sounds like a comlete idiot when he opens his mouth.

I wonder if people will go for the "well, we caught Saddam while he was in office" route... That might help him out a little.

wufong 07-24-2004 09:10 PM

I like bush. he is funny.

orangestar 07-24-2004 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by rae_pierre

I wonder if people will go for the "well, we caught Saddam while he was in office" route... That might help him out a little.

People that arent that into politics will probably think that and vote Bush. Then regret it when he causes us to get bombed.

bwind22 07-24-2004 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by orangestar
People that arent that into politics will probably think that and vote Bush. Then regret it when he causes us to get bombed.

I wonder what people will say if Kerry gets elected and we still get attacked.

mothermold 07-25-2004 12:45 AM

willy wonka.

Haunted 07-25-2004 03:55 AM

mothermold, Willy Wonka would be the ideal choice. What party do you think he'd run under? (Incidentally eatting Everlasting Gobstoppers to ease the pain of quitting smoking).

I'm a Kerry girl. I'm so glad he picked Edwards, and not just because I'm Southern. It's more because there's a dynamic between the two of them that says: We can get shit done and most of the time, we can do it right....Unlike those other sons-o-bitches."


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