Guinea Pig
 

Im looking to buy one of the movies from the Guinea Pig series, and I cant decide which one. Anybody seen them and want to give me an opinion? I love exploitation movies, and I figure these are the most famous ones.

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check out this link unearthed films

the first film, devil's experiment is the one most people think of when you mention this series.

So I should get the Devils Experiment /Andriod of Notre Dame double feature?

if you are only getting one, otherwise i would get flower of flesh & blood. that's the one with the samurai

those look fuckin sick, so i have to see them, if you get some , let me know if there any good

already have them..filed under guilty pleasure

LOL

Guinea Pig
 

Anyone else heard of these Japanese ultra-nasty movies. The first one is about these people who capture and torture a woman they found of the street. Apparently Its was so realistic many people thought it to be a snuff movie until they released a 'making of' thing. Anyone else heard of/seen these movies? What did you think?

I know of the first one, called the devils experiment or something like that?
A later on in the series was called something like "he wont die"??
I know my dvd supplier just got a few on their list - if you see it before I do, let me know how it was.

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I prefer the really snuff films myself.

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try here

by many people, i take it you heard the charlie sheen story then..

Just saw a bit and this shiznit is NOT nice. Like Cannibal Holocaust not nice. Friggin disgusting! And all the 'attackers' have there eyes blacked out. Dude, the screams the woman makes sound so real.

Sounds pretty disturbing...

the later films have a dose in humour in them and are more like traditional films. devil's experiment and flower of flesh & blood are basically extended torture sequences.

they are

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i always laugh when i hear that story.

Guinea pig series
 

i've always been meaning to Buy a movie from this series just have never gotten around to it yet.

But for thoses that have seen the movies from this series are they any good and worth watching and are they also as gory and bloody as pretty much everybody says they are?

definately worth the money.the movies are all pretty gory and messed up.i suggest picking them up if you can find them.

thanks i'll pick one up maybe this weekend. Because i think you can buy them at like suncoast i'm pretty sure!


also which one is the best in the series?

devils experiment / flowers of flesh & blood / mermaid in a manwhole

ok thanks zwoti

and in that order

I've got the 'Flower of Flesh and Blood/ Making of Guinea Pig' DVD. If you're looking for an actual horror movie with plot and tons of chills, this is NOT it. It's all pretty mininmal at best. However, I got it to see the "supposedly" amazing gore effects. I was not disappointed. The scene where the 'samurai' saws off the girls left hand and then the fingers close still makes me cringe (I have a thing about wrists for reasons unknown). The effects are bar none top notch. 'The Making of...' is fantastic for any of us indie filmakers or FX enthusiasts since they give a whole run down on how to do this, that and the other thing. Fascinating stuff. If you have ever seen the Tom Savini 'Scream Greats' video in the early 80s, you will be blown away by how advanced the "art" has become since then. The most scary thing of all about it, I was able to get it on Amazon.com LOL
CK

ok thanks once again. it sounds that you got high praise from the film and you really enjoyed it. This sounds something like i should enjoy (although your right i do go for more horror movies with a somewhat plot) But i'll still give this series a try.

Honestly I didn't really enjoy them that much Im a "gore hound" so to speak but there really wasn't much point to these flick there is tonnes of violence and such but I need a little bit of story to back up the gore not just gore for gores sake if ya know what I mean! but again just my opinion

Proteus

GUINEA PIG sure sorts out the men from the boys, don't it?

UNABRIDGED AGONY (DEVIL'S EXPERIMENT) is probably more disturbing than THE FLOWER, THE FLESH & THE BLOOD with its mock-snuff stance - pelting a woman with bits of rotten flesh?

FLOWER is definately worth seeing for its fantastic prosthetic/makeup work - only thing letting the overall experience down and the viewer off the hook are the crunchy, squelchy OTT sound effects that accompany all the sawing and slicing.

(And a blatantly false chicken - director Hideshi Hino wisely insisted the animal should not be harmed)

As one observer noted, "...the effects are good - TOO good; they left my stomach feeling like a broken Slinky"...

Not a fan at all I own two episodes of em just for the collection but there just pointless exploitation lacking in story/acting/camera work etc just pointless excuses for violence/gore.

Proteus

There is no such thing as pointless exploitation - surely every created viewing experience has a point, even if it is far from the logical, ethical and moralistic base of most movies.

The GUINEA PIG films (talking about the two most notorious instalments at least) do not set out to become anything other than graphic accounts of torture - without realistic special effects or agressive, documentary-style camerawork they would have been consigned to oblivion long ago never to have reared their heads to each new generation of thrill-seekers (perhaps THEN they could be considered pointless!).

There is more background to DEVIL'S EXPERIMENT and THE FLOWER, THE FLESH & THE BLOOD if you want it (something about pain barriers and killer/victim contrasts according to their creators), but even on face value their very reputation as uncompromising and nihilistic works assures they have a point to make to every viewer - even if it is primarily "car-crash" morbid curiousity - that this is what someone is doing to someone else, wanna see how we think it might look?

Thanks for reminding me, I've got Flowers of Flesh and Blood on one of my computers...I'm going to go watch it now.

i have it on dvdr, but the frigging thing doesnt open on a dvd player . it seems it opens only on a dvd writer!:mad:

im soon getting a comp setup with a dvd writer

Not to be mean but I think your reading too deeply into these flicks most gore fans wouldn't even like em and thats not because there too hardcore its because there boring as hell and very cheeply made!

Proteus

Or you could say your "most gore fans" require their thrills on rails with distinct moral values and familiar logic that requires no further thought beyond the awe of the special effects - i.e. boring as hell.

FIlms like the GUINEA PIGs do not need to be looked into at all to be appreciated - they are blatantly non-conformist and agressive pieces of work, and - in comparison to today's purile fanboy zombie homages and pissweak slasher flicks - are reminders of how powerful fantasy horror can still be in the right hands that are not corrupted by current trends and catering to target audiences.

Someone once told me they didn't like THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT because, "you didn't even see the witch"...

I have seen the first while ago, very pointless just an excuse for silly boys to watch them so they can say they are hardcore and a true horror fan … get over your selves your not impressing anyone … gore for gore sake without any kind of structured movie around it is boring as hell … Cannibal Holocaust is a completely different thing exploitation in the confines of a well put together product … not just a pointless exercise in gore!

... I didn’t like Blair witch ... because it was s**t

Sorry but My buddy could make the Guinea pig series in his basement anyone one could!!! Its just a pointless series with graphic gore!
like feral said If anyone wants to watch a good gore flick check out something thats at least well done like Cannibal Holocaust that has great locals a neat score and decent acting I'd also suggest flicks like Men Behind the Sun and Untold story way before the Guinea pig flicks there gory as hell but again very well done and actualy have some sort of plot.
If you enjoy flicks like the Guinea pigs then you more than likely enjoy the whole Faces of Death series too all they are set pieces of fake/real torture/death scenes too with no story that really must be "Art" too you!

And Im deffinitly not what you'd call a "Fanboy" and about the Blair witch, I could give a shit about it!

Proteus

Why is it called Guinea Pig? That's mean..we just got a couple of Guinea Pigs... :(

LOL theres no violence towards Guinea Pigs don't worry mind you I think a Guinea pig could of directed this mess of a series without anyone being the wiser!

Proteus

Just a little more to add on this -

There is still a strong undercurrent in some horror film fans about all exploitation films having "point", being "well done" and with a neat and tidy story to offer the viewer.

However these aspects are add odds with true exploitation.

Indeed, the reactions of some gore/horror fans to the most basic and unpretentious of exploitative cinema is often derision... perhaps it is because the likes of the GUINEA PIG films are uncompromising and leave little to celebrate?

Sometimes an audacious, simple and apparently meaningless movie is what it takes to give food for thought to those amature fanboy filmmakers about to craft their latest cliched, multi-layered and oh-so-meaningful zombie/slasher/vampire piece of art. Or if it isn't, then it bloody should be.

To suggest that if one enjoys viewing films like GUINEA PIG then one must similarly "enjoy" the contents of real/fake death film sounds like a comment from an outraged Christian group or similar rather than a liberated horror fan.

I'll watch them all, and judge each on its own merits.

from memory the director wanted an title which bare no relation to the contents of the film