What are your top five most shocking films of all time in your mind
 

1 Ensuring your place in hell, 2 Begotten,3 a Siberian film,4 May 5 Tumbling Doll of Flesh.
Theses films are pretty shocking I think that I have seen recently do you think there should be limits do you think thee directors are trying to hard just to cash in on the shock value or do they mean something to the the directors what do you think there are a lot more shocking films then theses this is just what i saw recently i liked may the best it had a little dark humor gore terror etc just the expression of her eyes in the movie made it just the way she moved good acting

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And it's Serbian, not Siberian.

Siberian Film would be worse. ;) :D

I prefer a Cimmerian film:

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/conan.jpg

Robert E. Howard was a genius. Wish they'd make all his stories into movies or at least a TV series with a budget on Showtime or HBO.

You know, I never read any of his Conan Stories but I noticed there is a collection of pretty much all of them really cheap for the kindle on Amazon - so when I finish my current book I will purchase this.

There are rumors for a new Conan with Arnie in it.

Yeah I heard Arnie is doing another one too. I've got the Conan stories in 3 volumes and have been reading them over the last year or two.

They're all short stories and you don't have to read them in any order. The way he wrote them was with the idea of sitting around a campfire and the kids saying, "tell us another story about Conan" so they're just random stories. They are kind of different when you first start reading them and some of them are REALLY out there, but once you get used to them they're actually pretty entertaining and after about the 4th or 5th story he really starts hitting his stride.

On the Conan thing, I read somewhere a whiles back that the Kevin Sorbo movie "Kull" was meant to have been the third Conan film.
I'm not sure how/why it wasn't...though I did find out that apparently the characters were done by the same guy?

Anyways, shocking..ok.
I'm not a big fan of films that go to shock, so I don't know that I'll get to 5.

I'll agree on a Serbian film.
It was psychologically and visually fucked up.
The visuals came close to being outmatched by the concepts.
That said, while I feel a bit like people take it the wrong way when I recommend that while I won't be watching it again anytime soon, they should probably check it out.
I think considering the evidently low budget, it was actually a pretty well made movie.

Man Bites Dog.
I saw this when I was about 16...all I remember thinking was hey...that's a fucked up guy right there.

Uh, whatever the asian flick was where the chick sawed the guys feet off with razor wire or what have you...I think only because of that one scene.

Cannibal-something?
Though it was really only on account of my reaction to the actual animal deaths.

Hm, wont say things like Saw and Hostel because that just seemed like gore for gores sake.

Ok, probably "Kids".

A few start coming to mind. First was Boys Don't Cry, the rape scene is well done and the film itself draws you in so when it occurs, if you're like me and allow yourself to be sucked in, it upsets you.

When I was a kid I'd watch Saturday Night Nightmares, and also rent films my mother did not realize the quality of. So I'm now remembering being grossed out and horrified, as a kid, by Galaxy of Terror. I haven't seen it in a long time so now it might not affect me as much.

Also from when I was a kid was some movie, I can't remember the name though. It was akin to faces of death, except it had real live canablism, a woman's nipple being cut off and then eat, how zebras were hunted with long ropes between off road jeeps, other things i can not remember. Might've been called Inhumanities?

Big Bertha's 'real' face in Pee Wee's Big Adventure scared the fuck out of me as a kid.

As an adult most films that have shock gore and brutal rape/murder/etc. usually don't affect me because there's no association with the story/characters, its just like looking at an anatomy book, a live surgery, or real pictures of real mutilation. Its gross or morally wrong or what have you, but movies that generally go for shock do not achieve what they set out to do unless their audience is fairly sheltered. Shock to me is more about affecting your emotions, not your level of 'eww that's too gross to look at.' A comparison for me would be Inland Empire. Its not a horror movie or shocking, but it does test your brain's ability to take it all in. Its an exhausting film, regardless of what you think of something like, for example, the family bunny scenes. If you just let yourself sit through it you're likely to feel mentally drained. So it doesn't upset you necessarily, but it does affect you more deeply than "Oooo, look at me, i'm chopping up clits for breakfast!" I think, in general, what's more shocking--in that it upsets me--is that most of these shock films rarely involve the rape and sexual mutilation of men. Its primarily women. Sure men may have their arms chopped off, brains eaten, etc., but for the women character its usually sexual.

Oh and that reminds me, the scene in Hannibal in which Lecter takes a piece of his victims brain, the top of the skull removed, fries it and then serves it to the same victim. That was fucked up, more so because I associated myself a bit with the victim previously in the film.

Ensuring Your Place in Hell



This is the ultimate cult DVD, you need to own this! It contains a collection of fucked up shorts such as Grave Robbing For Morons, Cooking With Huck Botko (which is quite possibly the most fucked up home video ever made), Mortuary Of The Dead (real sick shit, proceed with caution), and Exploding Varmints. I can't even explain how messed up this DVD is.

What the heck?!? I never heard of this. I can't find an IMDb.

Want.

Are you kidding me? "Begotten" was shocking?

Top 5 movies that had shock value to me......
 

1. Cannibal Holocaust
2. The original I Spit on Your Grave
3. The original The Last House on the Left
4. Kids - soo fucked up!
5. The last one I cannot remember the name of it but it was about 2 guys and a girl that hung out together all the time and even slept together and jealousy brew between them and the one guy ends up having his penis cut off and shoved in his mouth. I think the movie cover has a picture of a pentagram on it??

I still like my 'a Cimmerian film' joke. I think 2013 was the year I peaked.

I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE (1978). Pretty hard going, although I loved how she got her revenge on those lowlifes. The remake sounds even more brutal.
HENRY:PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER (1986). Very well made, but grim as hell and the home invasion scene is stomach churning.
DELIVERANCE (1972). "Squeal like a Pig"...'nuff said. Saw this when I was 13 and had nightmares for years afterwards over those two.
NIGHTMARE (1981). MANIAC is pretty sleazy, but this is even more so and takes you into one hellish world.
FREAKS (1932). Very ahead of its time. Ending is still hard hitting.

Is Ensuring Your Place in Hell worthwhile? I heard similar descriptions of Gateway Meat which I tracked down recently and was entirely unimpressed.

Black Metal Veins was perhaps the most disturbing film I have seen recently. Despite the handful of staged scenes, it was pretty unnerving to see the toll heroin took on the subjects. Raven was, for lack of better terms, deflated and covered in open sores by the later segments yet completely unfazed and upbeat which was disconcerting even separate from the other events in the film. Intravenous whiskey was an interesting concept though. The 50's version of Death of a Salesman was quite disturbing too because it seems to be the most relatable horror film.

Serbian Film, Cannibal Holocaust, Salo, Men Behind the Sun, Nekromantik, and the like were too well made to call disturbing, I would just consider those to be good films.

The August Underground films, the Guinea Pig films, Gateway Meat, etc. were fun to watch as gore reels, but far more entertaining than disturbing. The same is true for most of the older Mondo films; interesting to watch, but nothing remarkable.

Ensuring Your Place in Hell is crap...got this from a respected source.

I'm going to pass. : )

The Gateway Meat is amazing. The greatest columbian necktie I ever seen. Ron DeCaro needs to get The Brightside Trilogy on DVD.

The effects in Gateway Meat were great, I just thought that the film seemed more amusing than disturbing. Like watching Taeter City.

Ah, fair enough.

I haven't seen Taeter City but did watch Adam Chaplin. I liked it. One time viewing was enough.

Tough one!
 

Everyone is going to have a different opinion, I think, on what's shocking to them, but here are mine!

1. I Spit On Your Grave (1978) - As soon as the rape scene started and I realized it was going to drag out, I stopped watching and didn't finish it until many years later because it seemed very wrong. The movie made me very uncomfortable.

2. Last House on the Left (1972) - This made me very, very uncomfortable if only because the level of glee the rapists/murderers had was so well acted. Then to see the stark contrast of regret after they raped Mari? Horrifying. I managed to watch this the entire way through at least.

3. Cannibal Holocaust (1980) - I have tried to block as much of the imagery from the movie out of my mind.

4. The Forbidden Zone (1980) - This movie was one giant mind you-know-what. A topless, panty-clad princess having sex with a giant frog? A man with the mannerisms of a chicken? Points, though, for having Danny Elfman as Satan!

5. The Baby (1973) - I still don't know what I watched!

THE BABY was indeed pretty twisted!
Another one that is hard going, although very well made is REQUIEM FOR A DREAM (2000) dealing with drug addiction, especially towards the end as things spiral out of control.

High Tension
Next Door
Dressed to Kill
The Evil Dead
that film with the talking vagina (I think its German)

Moebius (2013)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2942522/

The Seventh Continent

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098327/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_17



Melancholie der Engel

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1420558/

Lilya 4-Ever

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/?ref_=rvi_tt

Ive only been shocked by one film and that was Serbian Movie, just that scene with his son.

Movies like A Serbian Film and The Human Centipede don't really "shock" me because I forget them within an hour.

Haha, yes, that was classic. I feel bad for picking on the guy's grammar.

You have not yet peaked though. The best is yet to come.

True. You really should be around more often to flex that wit.


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I actually actively avoid exploitation and other films that are typically labelled "disturbing;' rape, especially, makes me incredibly unhappy so I haven't seen "classics" such as Last House, I Spit On Your Grave, Irreversible, or Serbian Film - That being said, I typically grill folks like Ferox around here about those films... Hey, I may not be able to watch them myself but I love reading reviews and reactions, though...

In terms of the most shocking/disturbing films that I have ever seen, it comes down to these three:

Visitor Q - Takashi Miike was really my foray into Japanese horror, around a time that I was just starting to explore the genre in general... I had seen Audition which had really disturbed me so I went into Visitor Q expecting somewhat of the same - That it starts with casual incest honestly just shocked me along with all of the casual familial violence and, finally, a few incredibly disturbing images of the reimagining of the nuclear family. I had never seen anything like it - It was truly disturbing yet also beautiful - I might have to bring myself to watch it again (it's been about 6 years and only a few scenes remain in my mind...

Blue Velvet- Whoo boy - Another unanticipated shocker for me; while I had seen Twin Peaks and some of Lynch's more modern films (Mulholland Drive), I wasn't prepared for the physical and sexual violence and sheer terror that was Dennis Hopper. A certain scene with a gas mask and spread legs shocked me - I watched it with my boyfriend at the time (waaaaaaay before I had gotten into horror - Before Visitor Q; before this forum) - And it truly disturbed me. It's been about 10 years since I've seen it, which may be an appropriate amount of time to recoop before seeing it again, but I am not so sure. It's a well-directed, truly absurd, and truly horrifying.

Martyrs - I probably watched this movie about 2 or 3 years ago and I had heard that it was "disturbing" but I was truly unprepared for this movie, especially since it starts with what seems like your above average slasher film and then descends into true physical and psychological torture - A truly nihilistic and unhappy film that left me feeling very empty and hopeless - Now THAT one haunted me for a week or so. Oh boy.

Don't ever watch Irreversible or Megan Is Missing. To me, the other titles you mention are more fiction and far out and therefore more digestible. To me.

Megan is Missing wasn't very difficult to watch for me. I guess I watch too much Dateline.

Yes, that might be the case.

Noted. I keep on trying to bring up the nerve to watch Irreversible but just can't do it.

What embarrasses me is that I really want to watch these films so that I can enter the discussion around the horror genre more broadly - Exploitation is a huge blind spot in my viewership which bums me out when I want to participate in discussions on this board. But it's just too icky for me. ::sad::

The ending, to me, was really hard to handle. No spoilers, but man, I just can't imagine going out like that.

I generally don't like exploitation flicks. I don't really find most of them very enjoyable.

Exploitation is a pretty broad term and not all of them are violent/Gorey - certainly not the one made in the 30's. Ok maniac and Sex Madness are a little bit icky. Most blaxploitation wouldn't fall under this category too.

Yeah, I know it's broad but I'm not sure how to describe what I'm getting at, you know? I could say "I can't watch films that revel in rape and/or torture" I suppose... How would you describe the films I mentioned?

LOL - I think my brainwashing has worked on you to avoid using a certain term :-)

I was like that for a short period of time...I wouldn't watch anything with rape or torture in it. Then I realized.....how is that I can watch people being ate, killed, mutilated but not the other stuff??!! I guess it didn't make sense to me?? I told myself, it's just a movie and it will all blend in together. So, now there isn't anything (so far) that I have passed over because of its content. I think its natural for most of us to be curious about different things, particularly "dark" things. It's kind of like a forbidden fruit. I think it's safe to say that some of us are more in touch with are "darker" side than others, thus our desire for horror. I live for horror movies ::big grin::

LOL - I figured you'd be proud of me that I've avoided using it through this whole thread! ::wink::

You mean Audition (1999)? It had other torture methods, that I could think of. Needles through sensitive skin, drugging, using steel wire for cutting of legs...

Alright, to the topic!

The Serbian Film, Human Centipede II, Cannibal Holocaust + Ferox were my movies for the appointment (date) with a partner. We watched them and laughed them through, just how over-the-top and silly they were. (Not recommended if you are going out with someone you don't know, for the first time.)

The Human Centipede is just really black/dark comedy about body horror.
The Serbian Film was a exploitation movie with more or less "artistic value" under the surface.
Cannibal Holocaust is classic, excellent effects and story that does not seem to age. But, animal cruelty.
So this seems pretty Off-Topic to say that really, these are just movies that are portraying fictional acts towards persons. BUT, animal torture and killing is always the big no no no no.
(I have NOT seen Tumbling Doll Flesh(?), The Angels' Melancholy, Vomit Gore Trilogy, Philosophy Of A Knife...)

Exploitation is kinda controversial subject to some people. And via exploitation there are directors and makers who make "art-sake-of-art" or just a few, quick bucks about the subject, maybe making much shocking material as possible. Also, shockumentaries are usually pretty much about this. (Faces Of Death, who really watched that crap to see some pretty images and deep story?)...

[I hope, this is not too Off-Topic...]

worst
 

Irerversible

Yeah, she's a total pussy.