9/11
 

i cant take any more who the fuck cares. all you "god bless american" people have to wake up. fuck the twin towers fuck the war and mostly fuck america.

okay that was a real good post....NOT....dont be a fucking moron and talk shit about USA retard......and please refrain from using such language lol....just dont be an idiot

how you go from "horror.com is like my big family" to this is beyond me


what i realy dont get is why people like to officially make fools of themselves. this is the internet, you can take all the time you want into thinking of exactly what to type, reread it 50 times and THEN send. but here you go putting something INCREDIBLY idiotic (among other things) when all you know ur gonna get is hated on immensely.

.... why?????

yes you will really get hated for this....and its gonna be very fun

While i'll agree that a 9/11 thread, isn't exactly the best place to go on an anti-america bash, i can identify, to a certian degree, with LBM's attitude.

Lately the government has been pulling the wool over our eyes. With this 9/11 commitee (dont blame me im just the national security adviser, there was nothing i could do:rolleyes: ), afganahstan attacks us so we attack IRAQ:confused: , Bin Laden fucked us so we go after SADAM:confused: , THERE ARE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION OVER THERE!!!uh....wait....uh...i mean they have a "weapons PLAN", BULLSHIT.

And NOT TO MENTION THE GODDAMN PATRIOT ACT, which they are about to sequel with a PATRIOT ACT 2, taking away our freedoms so not only government officials, but cops and lawenforcement can screen us, more bullshit

And the biggest hypocrisy of all, is if you say anything about it, your branded as UNPATRIOTIC, thats fucking BULLSHIT.

Im all for land of the free, democracy, and what not, but lately (since 9/11 and this war started on false pretenses) what America stands for is being tarnished, to justify alterior motives by the Bush Administration, it makes me sick....

i agree with you on that aspect....i am sick of hearing about 9/11 but dont say fuck the world trade centers and america...cause it isnt us its bush so fuclk him!

this reminds me of a thread i was gonna start.. abuot who everyone was voting for

i decided not to however because

1) many are not voting age/or registered/ not voting at all

2) id rather NOT know peoples political stances as i can get very angry lol

.... with that said.. WE NEED TO TAKE BUSH OUT!

yes i am completely against bush and to an extent the war but fuck the twin towers? come on.....

one man doesn't represent us all, the last election should show that clearly.

yeah but people still shouldnt make light of an incident where thousands of people died. Like jonesin on the holacaust..just not right in my mind....still america is fucked up....too much concern for money and prestiege...not enough concern for the suffering of the world

what i dont understand is how badly people view america. now dont get me wrong, i know theres shit wrong. but there is a reason why countries look up to us

yes america is too much about corporations (among other things) but dont forget about the help we DO give to other countries. the philippines for example, loves us, and if u think our govt is fucked, you have NO idea

the problems we have (hunger, education, unemployment), are so much greater in every other country (except britain and other parts of europe, obviously)

we live in a country where corps rule and everyone is under some sort of corp. sucks, but of course there are MANY countries where there are no jobs. (begging for money on a mountain is not a job, although it is a fun tourist attraction i must admit)

slavery existed for over 3000 years and the US stopped slavery only after 88 yeras of being formed.

so come now, dont sound so negative you can look at just the bad, becuase there is good there too. thats not to say though that we should ignore the problems, i just think that people dont give the US enough credit sometimes

fluff you just made some of the greatest points ever said on this board.....BRAVO

well im not trying to change peoples minds. i DO agree with a lot of the points above mine but i just want peopel to re member the points on the othersid as well

when yuo have kids, do you tell them "clean up your room. your being a pig. and eat your vegetables your gonna get fat"

no... but you DO need to tell them those things, its better for them. but there is a better way"you did really well on your test the other day. im proud of you. how about yo ugo clean up your room then we'll go to .... the museum"

ok so i didnt put much thought into that but you get the idea. you cant just point at all the faults, you have to also recognize the rights.

Good points yes, but best points on the board...I think not, no. I point you to some of my previous arguments.

Some points can be contradicted though, in as much as we do help other countries, we also hurt them, Iraq for example is being rebuilt by americans who have ties to the person in charge of assigning contractors to rebuild Iraq, I ask you why arn't they allowed to rebuild their own country when they need jobs so badly?

your second point contradicts itself, every country has different strengths and weaknessess with its problems comapared to other countries.

Your third point argues that corporations are the source of all jobs, that is false. You can have emplyment without being controlled by big business. Democracy in itself is contrast to the Capatilist system we have for an economy. Democracy is all about equal representation in government and everyone having a voice, but in a true capatalists society the trend is for the few elites to control and own the top 90% of all wealth, and the vast majority in poverty. Luckily this has been kept in control by the governments intervention in Business, antitrust laws and the like.

Yes it was only around for 88 years, but segregation was around for long after that, and many other countries had outlawed it before the US had.

The US does have its perks, but it is far from perfect as I said recently in another thread, but so far I am yet to see any actual perks that the US has over any other country.

I agree that me and Unit 03 tend to take a liberal, and sometimes negative, approach to politics in general and america at present.

And you make alot of good points there Fluff, but i cant stand being told im UNpatriotic, because i wont vote for bills that allow law enforcement AS WELL AS the FBI to look into anything im searching online, anything i have on my computer, anything i buy, anything like that. Thats bullshit and unconstitutional at BEST. It never would have passed if it wasnt called the PATRIOT act, and if 9/11 hadn't happened.

Even congress senators have admitted they passed it in haste due to 9/11...

ok sorry i just read what i wrote and i didnt explain myself well. what i ment is that im a peace full man and i cant stand war. and i want to state that i do think 9 11 was a tragedy but what this forum was about is how people use it as a mask for war and its really pissing me off. i dont think we should be in iraq and i dont agree with bush. but im sorry i didnt think this thread whould be read this way in my head i thought i made it clear but i really didnt and im sorry and i guess i took it a little far saying fuck 911 fuck the war and fuck america.

Well at least you can admit mistakes ...unlike a certain president I know :p And hey you didn't go and start a war because of it:cool:

i am very happy you acually stood up and came back and fixed youself like a man....i appreciate it....thank you

good deal man. it pisses me off to. must be careful what we say. no doubt big brother is watching.

i didnt think it through before i sent it and i feel like a total retard. and odly enough i never ment for this to be a anti-american thread i actualy love america but i just cant stand war .

its alright man dont feel retarded just re read what you type before you post it....i understand you made a mistake....everyone does...your only human

Its happened to me too. I dont even want to bring up the thread but at the time it seemed like a good idea. After I saw how people reacted i realize what an ass i was being..My best advice forget about it. You apoligized....I and other have accepted you apology...if there are people who dont.....here comes my tag ling....<FUCK EM>

i am definitely liberal but i duno, even when i was little i tried to look at the good more than the bad

example, i was always the friend of the 'fat kid' not because they were fat, but because i was the only person who didnt give a shit and it didnt take me long to find out that they were really nice people. the sad thing was, people didnt start hating me for being her friend, but instead they would try to pull me away. so sad, even when i was young people were like this

i would definitely not call yo upatriotic, however i will say i dont recall yo usaying anything nice about america lol. well i mean its like a debate with someone. rather than say 'your being a fuckin idiot you have no idea what your talking about' you have to say 'well i acknowledge this part, but i have to disagree with this part'

which is what yu do. well im just tsaying i can see how people think y outo be unpatriotic. which is why when i say that there are faults, i make sure to point out that there is good there as well

as for the patriot act, i dont have a problem with it. i am generally liberal though and im pretty sure this is a conservative thi ng. i view the patriot act just as i view the national base of DNA. as in, when we arrest people (mainly sex offenders) we take a sample of blood to test their Dna, as well as fingerprints. then if there is a case, we can match the fingerprint. the problem is, the fingerprint or dna HAS to be on file

well there has been an idea to take a sample of EVERY person in the US. for me, i am all for it. it means, we find a sample of se men on a dead little girl, we test it, put it on the puter and BAM, find the dude. of course, that doesnt mean we're going to forgo all the other investigative procedures but it would make for a sure fire man hunt. and DNA fingerprinting has come a long way and is accurate

i know that will never pass though, becuase peopel think it is an invasion of their privacy. at least in my eyes, i dont understnad it. the same can be said of speed limits, we should have the freedom to go as fast as we can. but we are given limits, in exchange for security. freedom in exchange for security. personally, i dont give a fuck if someone looks at my internet records, or what im doing in school, or where i went today. think bout it, my graduating class alone was 800 people, are they honestly going to survey 800 people, 24/7? that would be so much paper. what good would it be to them to nkow that i was on horror between the hours of blah and blah? law enforcement is HIGHLY underfunded and is taking cuts as we speak. if i were to get out of the academy tomorrow, i woudlnt get a job.. sadly. now OBVIOUSLY, if i have something to hide (like mr zodiac, for example) then hell yes id be against this. thats not to say that EVERY person against this is a murderer/felon of some sort, but you get the idea. basically, i have nothing to hide, so go ahead and watch me. b elieve me, it wont be interesting and u would be wasting ur time.

i would like to know your exact views arioch, since i have been wanting to talk to someone. i like to talk to people with opposing views, diff religions etc, rather than to just read about it. and when i say views, like more info. you know not just 'i dont want them looking at my stuff' i mean like elaborate. like explanations... yeh.. u get the idea

well my eyes are gettin all dizzy and i need to go potty so sorry if that doesnt even make sense. but i think i got my idea through... maybe

god i didnt even realize how much i typed.. jesus christ

yes that was alot fluffster

Agreed man, which is why i knew where you were coming from when everyone else was about to rip you appart. I dont hate america, quite the opposite, i hate to see it controlled, blinded, force fed lies, taken to war to have its sons and daughters captured by a nation that we are HELPING to be killed on TV (see it all comes around;) ), i think there is alot of bullshit and lies flying around under the words PATRIOTIC, and 9/11 (ok thats a number lol). and it really tends to PISS ONE OFF!!

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!:mad:

well if u think thats a lot just be lucky we aint talkin.i talk up a fuckin storm .....................

ive been referred to as "the girl with the mouth that goes like this" and u do that thing where your 2-5 fingers are the top mouth and the thumb is the bottom mouth and you close them and open close open LOL ok u get the idea

and every year book is signed "you had so many stors" "you had such great stories to tell" "i love listening to your stories every week" god............

this forum is one big family.....disfuntional tho lol....just like the House of 1000 Corpses family lol

cant we be family guy instead? its so much.. funnier and cuter!

only 88 years of slavery ... well thats all right then!!!!!!!!
only 4 years of hitler killing jews is that ok as well!

...its quite odd to hear you Americans disagreeing with the war though, normally its all we are the greatest and god bless america and those tastefull "fuck with the rest, die like the best" T -shirts!, not to mention the stunning freedom fries campain!

But us Brits are just as dumb following you into that war, now there arresting terrorist's evry couple of weeks here and there gonna get us in the end!

...flufho, its exactly those opinions thinking the rest of the worlds begs on mountains that gets the USA into all this trouble in the first place, don't believe evrything you get told over there! I've travelled alot and some of the worst places I saw in the world to live where in American cities

Feral Cat

Fluff your a conservative. Liberals think the government shouldn't interfere with society at all but merely regulate business. Your views posted are that of the right wing, not the left.

Feral...LMAO I couldn't agree more.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Arioch
[B]Agreed man, which is why i knew where you were coming from when everyone else was about to rip you appart. I dont hate america, quite the opposite, i hate to see it controlled, blinded, force fed lies, taken to war to have its sons and daughters captured by a nation that we are HELPING to be killed on TV (see it all comes around;) ), i think there is alot of bullshit and lies flying around under the words PATRIOTIC, and 9/11 (ok thats a number lol). and it really tends to PISS ONE OFF!!

ya i noticed you figured out what i was saying before everyone else did. im glad i clearified it because they where about to eat me whole.

well i say the tcm family more because we dont have a mommy.

yes we do....Bloodrayne is our mommy :)

wow your 100% right.
want to know something funny i didnt know bloodrayne was here intell about a month ago because she changed her avartar. you know the one with the blood rayne

yeah but she is a total sweetheart so she is deff. our mommy and Arioch is our daddy cause Bloodrayne has a huge thing for him

?? conservatives say let business be business
liberals want government to interfere, make sure they dont fuck people over

not to mention im against death penalty and for abortion (among other things)

so how about you not tell me what wing i am k thx.

God i didnt know you were gonna write a FUCKING ESSAY FLUFF!! lol j/k:D

Im against the majority of BIG BROTHER type activity, actually, im against government interfering with MY decisions AT ALL, not like murder and shit where im interferring with others' rights, but shit that only effects me, like "no drugs in your own house for you", not driving under influences thats different, "no prostitution"," im gonna look into what your lookin at online, ya know just incase you decide to bomb us or something", especially when they are making laws to help themselves earn or maintain (taxes) more money.

i mean obviously i have more views on WAY more issues than these, but i dont want to type an ESSAY here:p :D

lol. you should see me in school. back in HS they had 'minimum of x pages' but in college theyd have 'from x to x pages'

well id sit there fixin the margins, changing the fonts, making them SMALLER trying to get the damn thing to fit. LOL

i like to keep all my writings short and sweet....i hate essays lol

yes same here but its mostly because i cant read to well and i cant spell and the deslexia doesnt help and the add isnt great either