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_____V_____ 12-09-2009 08:06 AM

HDC Chooses: Best Movie Villain Of This Decade
 
So many powerhouse performances, and each one raising the bar a little further on the critical appreciation table.

Which one was yours? Vote and discuss.

Angra 12-09-2009 08:23 AM

I wouldn't call Wournos a villain. To me she was the hero.




My vote goes to Patrick Bateman.

ferretchucker 12-09-2009 09:13 AM

Jigsaw should be up there.

But my vote went for Chigurh

Elvis_Christ 12-09-2009 10:02 AM

Anton Chigurh for sure. Thought you would've voted for the Joker FC.

ferretchucker 12-09-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 839230)
Anton Chigurh for sure. Thought you would've voted for the Joker FC.

Good character but I don't see him so much as a villain. I know he was one, but his playfulness made him less unsettling that Chigurh in my eyes. I mean, that scene in the petrol station was brilliant.

Horror4ever 12-09-2009 10:39 AM

Daniel Plainview

urgeok2 12-09-2009 10:43 AM

Christoph Waltz's Standartenführer Hans Landa - Inglorious Basterds

for me.

Doc Faustus 12-09-2009 11:12 AM

I said Ledger. I felt Christian Bale was a very pale imitation of the Patrick Bateman I knew and loved from American Psycho. Anton Chigurh was cool, but I don't think a garden variety sociopath who loves his job makes a great villain. A great villain doesn't just want to kill the hero, a great villain is a threat to everything the hero stands for to the point at which, if this guy wins the world will be uninhabitable, not because the hero's dead but because their way of life is dead. Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter is a great example of this. If he gets that money, then it proves the world isn't safe for innocents and the god he follows approves of his actions and will let him come out on top. That's damn scary. We know bad men can get rich before we see No Country for Old Men. But, when we're presented with a character like Batman, the world changes. It's proof that one man can make a difference, that a person can yoke their inner demons and use them against the outer demons of Gotham. He represents a lot of hope. But then you bring in Heath Ledger's the Joker. Just as Batman has taken on a mantle of darkness to spread good, The Joker puts on a smile and perverts something bright and cheerful. Heath Ledger's Joker is a philosophical threat of the highest order, like Lucifer, Set, Mephistopheles, Loki and Herod. He shows that sometimes you can't impose meaning on chaos, that our inner demons can't always be used to the world's benefit and that the world is barely able to hang on. If the Joker wins, life becomes more meaningless and a lot of hope disappears. That's a huge stake. And Ledger shows that this is so. Damn, that's good villainy.

Doc Faustus 12-09-2009 11:16 AM

And by the way, where's Captain Spaulding in all this? Goode's Ozymandias was a farce and Gollum's not a villain, he's a junkie.

Elvis_Christ 12-09-2009 11:18 AM

and Otis Driftwood!

urgeok2 12-09-2009 11:38 AM

ledgers Joker was outstanding ..

but i thought there was far more menace in a nazi - let alone that particular nazi.

The_Return 12-09-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 839238)
I said Ledger. I felt Christian Bale was a very pale imitation of the Patrick Bateman I knew and loved from American Psycho. Anton Chigurh was cool, but I don't think a garden variety sociopath who loves his job makes a great villain. A great villain doesn't just want to kill the hero, a great villain is a threat to everything the hero stands for to the point at which, if this guy wins the world will be uninhabitable, not because the hero's dead but because their way of life is dead. Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter is a great example of this. If he gets that money, then it proves the world isn't safe for innocents and the god he follows approves of his actions and will let him come out on top. That's damn scary. We know bad men can get rich before we see No Country for Old Men. But, when we're presented with a character like Batman, the world changes. It's proof that one man can make a difference, that a person can yoke their inner demons and use them against the outer demons of Gotham. He represents a lot of hope. But then you bring in Heath Ledger's the Joker. Just as Batman has taken on a mantle of darkness to spread good, The Joker puts on a smile and perverts something bright and cheerful. Heath Ledger's Joker is a philosophical threat of the highest order, like Lucifer, Set, Mephistopheles, Loki and Herod. He shows that sometimes you can't impose meaning on chaos, that our inner demons can't always be used to the world's benefit and that the world is barely able to hang on. If the Joker wins, life becomes more meaningless and a lot of hope disappears. That's a huge stake. And Ledger shows that this is so. Damn, that's good villainy.

...I don't have the words to express how much I love this post. Amazingly well said Doc.

Needless to say, I'm voting the same. Some other great choices - especially Waltz's Landa - but nothing tops The Joker for me.

_____V_____ 12-09-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 839229)
Jigsaw should be up there.

Performance-wise? I thought Tobin Bell's Jigsaw was some notches below all those listed above.

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 839240)
And by the way, where's Captain Spaulding in all this? Goode's Ozymandias was a farce and Gollum's not a villain, he's a junkie.

Very true. Spaulding was worthy too. Think of him as the 11th Option.


Interesting thoughts so far. And a close race!

The Mothman 12-09-2009 08:15 PM

Gonna go with Anton Chigurh or this one. incredibly evil and complex villain, one of my favorites of all time.

friday13thfan 12-09-2009 08:46 PM

I have to go with Ledger's Joker.

roshiq 12-09-2009 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 839248)
ledgers Joker was outstanding ..

but i thought there was far more menace in a nazi - let alone that particular nazi.

Agree.

What about Emil Blonsky? I think he deserve a nomination at least.

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Straker 12-10-2009 05:15 AM

My vote went to Patrick Bateman.

Surprised not to see Commodus (Gladiator) getting a mention or does he fall outsied this decade? Also I probably would've gone with Saruman if I had to pick someone from Lord of the Rings. Great list though, stacked with great peformances. Minus that fella from Watchmen of course. :p

massacre man 12-10-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 839255)
...I don't have the words to express how much I love this post. Amazingly well said Doc.

Needless to say, I'm voting the same. Some other great choices - especially Waltz's Landa - but nothing tops The Joker for me.

I agree with this and Doc.

Despare 12-10-2009 12:55 PM

I loved a lot of these guys, especially the Joker, but I couldn't vote for anybody but Christoph Waltz in this one.


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