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Who would win??
this is a fight to the death who's side do you pick???
werewolf vs vampire I pick werewolf because they are stronger and able to attack and hunt vampires in the daylight as well as the night! |
Werewolves easy
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Werewolves only have a few hours every twenty eight days, but for the sake of argument I'll assume it's that night.
I would say the werewolf has a lot more power and could inflict a hell of a lot of damage, although it depends on the "rules" as such. If the werewolf is a mindless beast it could be tricked easily, and if the vampire could turn into a bat/ vanish/ could only be killed by a stake to the heart, it has a lot going for it. I'm gonna say werewolf, but as I said, it depends on the "type" of werewolf/ vampire they are. |
Werewolves easily. Especially werewolves from the World of Darkness games.
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Depends on if this is just a mano-a-mano brawl, or an ongoing feud.
If we're talking hand to hand combat, the vampire is fucked, no questions asked. But if he has time to wait things out, the werewolf is out of luck. |
Both are tough and good with their claws and fangs. When werewolves and vampires tangle, they generally both walk away, but everything in the room/house/castle is wrecked and the furniture isn't even good enough for the Goodwill store. There's usually lots of tufts of fur all over everything, too. It's like two cats fighting...a lot of MRRRRROWWWW HISSSSSSS and then WHAP! WHAP! WHOOPAH!
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I'm surprised by the answers so far.
You guys all think a werewolf would beat a vampire? What are you? Retarded? Vampires has super human strength, the ability to fly and the ability to reason. Werewolves are essentially very large, wild animals that would never be able to figure out how to kill a vampire. Vampire would kill a werewolf without any trouble at all. In fact, I'd go so far as to say a vampire could probably kill a whole pack of werewolves without much trouble. |
Just think if the werewolf bit the vampire- he could turn into a vampiric werewolf. I'm surprised this has never been done before. Or has it? Or vice versa- say a vampire bites a werewolf in its human form, and the next night it happens to be a full moon...
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Howling VI had such a scene of a werewolf biting a vampire. However, nothing happened.
I think NE just gave an idea to the makers of Underworld, for their fourth flick. As regards the debate, I ll deviate from the rest and say vampire. Never seen a werewolf make a beeline for a vampire's heart with a stake, plus the ability to turn into rats, smoke/mist, bats etc. makes the vampire pretty formidable. However fast the werewolf may be, the vampire is a smarter creature. |
And if a vampire had a silver dagger, he could stab & kill a werewolf.
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Technically speaking the vampires are much more deadly, they control most aspects of the world and werewolves tend to linger on the outskirts but in a typical bloodthirsty battle the wolfies come up trumps. |
No offense to anyone in particular.
Seriously, some of you are very cool, in general terms. But besides V & NE, the rest of you happen to to be retarded on this issue. I know, I know... It's a lighthearted internet poll, but honestly... You're retarded. A werewolf could kill a vampire? Seriously? The fact that anyone can actually entertain that concept is just plain retarded. Like I mentioned and that being said... some of you are cool. I don't think you are tards , but on this particular issue, I do think your viewpoint/opinion is crazy to the point of stupidity/retardation. (*Disclaimer: No offense to the real retards of the world. I'm sure the majority of you could correctly determine the victor of this battle.) |
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The one thing which makes the vampire more deadly than the werewolf is its ability to think and reason, IMO. Besides all those which I stated earlier. |
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If the lycanthrope had eaten a slice of garlic bread before changing into wolf form and then breathes on the vampire, that would destroy him. The way I imagined this was a cage fight to the death between the werewolf in full form and the vamp and there is only one winner. Sure, there is reason versus instinct which is a fair point, but I just cant see the power and violence of the wolf being matched. Its quite a good question really, but you would have to determine which 'rules' are used, by that I mean which supernatural powers does each have as you could debate over that for a while. @bwind: I am soooooooooo not a 'tard, man ;) |
I wasn't thinking along the lines of a "cage match" but more if these beings came in contact with each other in their lives- what could happen. All sorts of possibilities.
I'm thinking more about my previous question, and might do something with that- imagine a werewolf also possessed by bloodlust- or a vampire with bestial characteristics... The original Dark Shadows has a vampire and a werewolf- to bad they never fought each other. |
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I remember playing an RPG, called Vampire I think, where if the vamp had been attacked by a werewolf they couldnt heal the wounds. They had to ingest alot of blood to recover and I think that was in my mind. The fact the Underworld films arent being referenced says alot about them! |
Guys, *everyone knows* that when werewolves and vampires fight, the vampire goes into a feral mode, causing it to lose a portion of its reasoning power. Werewolves are pretty fast, and "thinking" doesn't help the vampire much in these situations.
Plus, no one has stopped to consider that vampires and werewolves are TOTALLY FICTIONAL and you could make up any old rules you want for them. Therefore, vampires and werewolves = totally cool monsters. |
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Yes! That is damn right. |
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I think we should throw an angry chimp into the fray.......see who would win.:D
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Sorry, that was the first thing that came to mind when I read your post :p :D |
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Another point in favor of the vampire. And even in the feral state, the vampire does not stop thinking with reasoning completely. When it is a fight to the death or when its cornered with no other way to beat its opponent, the vampire will do everything in its power to survive. I forgot another key power of the vampire - hypnosis. It can be very effective, especially when the werewolf gets powerless when the moon goes down. It all comes down to brains vs brawn in the end, IMO. And there, the vampire has the larger slice of the cake. |
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The parallels between Vampire vs. Werewolf and Bruce Lee vs. Angry Chimp are uncanny. I never looked at it like that but it's true & I'm glad it was pointed out.
Just like I'm sure Bruce Lee would fuck up an Angry Chimp, a Vampire would fuck up a Werewolf. |
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Wow. Crabapple made probably the most sensible post (#17) in the thread. I feel so...dirty.
:p In a cage fight I'd say a Werewolf. In a fight through a town I'd say a Vampire. As a human I'd rather be up against a Vampire. You could implore them to turn you into a creature of the night. With a werewolf you have no chance. |
Well, in a "fight to the death" the werewolf would automatically win, since vampire's are already dead, right?
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Can we be more specific with what TYPE of vampire and werewolf? There are many different views.
Dog Soldiers wolves would DOMINATE vampires, but the werewolf from Cursed would get owned. It's all about variation. Some vampires are depicted inaccurately. IMO the best depiction was in From Dusk Til' Dawn. Vampies are supposed to be trashy renegades who hang out and cause trouble, and neck pain. Not the classy, leather clad types we see in most flicks. Of course everyone has a different view, just sharing mine. |
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*ahem* (and for the record - i would slaughter vampires by flinging my garlic infused pooh at them!) |
Who would win:
Freddy Vs Jason?! Like omg. Just kidding :D |
WHat If Like JasOn Had a ChainSaw thAt waS StiCKing oUt Of hiS ButT and tHEn FrEddY wEnt to BUGger Jason but haD hIS WeinER CutT OfF - ThAT WOulD Be AWeSoME
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What if Freddy got a job in the city morgue and when was making rounds he discovered his own body? And then he tore up the death certificate and laughed and then laid down on the gurney?
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Of course there is scores of different lores one could follow in interpretting the combat prowess of the relative contenders. We could pick the highest end Lumley Vampire who can forge monsters through flesh and is virtually unkillable even if completely dismembered vs some wanky twilight incarnation of a werewold which I assume would be a piss weak critter.
The most popular and well constructed lore that includes both that I know is World of Darkness in which both are very very powerful beings and physically a Vampire stands a flat rating zero change against a Werewolf. As far as we can assume across the vast majority of lores the vampire would still need to go so far as be prepared and properly equiped to kill a werewolf, a werewolf would not have to go so far. So hey providing the vampire has got his Wolfie hunting kit, sure he may have the edge but if they are heading out too dinner on a full moon and cross paths unprepared, down goes fangy. |
Well, I'm using my old Creepy & Eerie magazines as source material, not your Johnny come lately gen x crap. :mad:
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And get hold of what? Mist? Rats? Even a big bat which is flying 1000 feet up in the sky? The werewolf has to get hold of the vampire first. And a vampire in feral state with only 50% of his reasoning and cunning abilities, is still a much smarter creature than the werewolf. Quote:
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We all love werewolf movies a lot, but we revere Dracula for this precise reason. I dont think that even the most powerful werewolf of the world is anywhere near a match, much less a close match, for the Prince of Darkness. |
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I am pretty sure I can take out the current UFC champion if I wait for him to fall asleep and burn his house down, though I wouldn't classify it as uch of a "fight". How many vampires run around with an ample collection of silver objects for that matter? The fact really being as far as I can assume from whatever pop cultures references I have to draw on, can a vampire defeat a werewolf? Yeah if he is properly prepared to take advantages of his weaknesses. Forcing us to pre-suppose he can sufficiently gain access to the correct weapons, and/or track the werewolf capably during the nights when the moon is not full. Can a werewolf beat a vampire, yeah in all circumstances but the above and in anything that I consider a stand up fight, mythos dependant. Quote:
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A werewolf would not have the ability to figure out that it needs a stake, garlic, crucifix or holy water to kill a vampire therefore the werewolf stands 0% chance of killing the vampire.
That fact alone should render this discussion obsolete, but somehow the majority of you seem to suffer from a complete lack of logic. How about Bruce Lee with nunchuks vs. an enraged Werewolf? |
Problem is... Most vampires are pompous, and usually get their asses kicked for it. Per Van Helsing.
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all depends on the writer who he'd let win in the final fight of a story/film.
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