Martyrs
 

This was one of the most shocking movies I've ever seen and I've seen quite every horror movie. It was really disturbing and quite intelligent. Every self-respecting hardcore horror fan must see this. It left me with a very dark feeling. Those who have seen it, what did you think?

Very bleak movie indeed! I saw a few horror movie fans leave the theater because they just could not bear the abuse anymore. You could hear people in the room gasping at some scenes as well. Really liked it for my part, but true, its a deeply disturbing movie even for people used to nasty movies.

There is just no fun in these torture scenes as opposed to most other flicks that take the same angle, its just too grim and psychologically harsh. I rarely discuss the psychology or the story of a movie of this kind after seing it (who cares anyways), but this time we all did. A very cold, intelligent, thought-provoking piece. I highly recommend it as well, but this clearly is not a movie for everyone, even hardcore horror fans!

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Pretty shocking as well, once you learn the motive behind the actions of this "circle". Doing all this just out of some quest for "illumination"? Wow.

I care. What I enjoy most from a horror/scifi/fantasy film is the ability to present huge themes within an audience-friendly framework.

I liked Martyrs, but I didn't find it to be ground-breaking or brilliant.

It's brutality loses its impact after a while and simply becomes numbing, which may be someone's intention, but hardly the way I want to feel after viewing a film.

I found the "reason" behind everything to be silly & foolish & half-baked. Yes, the filmmakers tried to elevate the torture genre (aiming high is a wonderful thing) but their reach exceed their grasp.

Totally agree with this. Although I haven't seen this film, any film which shows torture scenes, especially prolonged ones, always seems lazy to me. There is more to horror than seeing someones fear and pain, and while it serves a purpose, there should always be a reason behind torture scenes. Anything else is just sadism, which can be horrific, but not horror.

Need to see this soon.

What is the considered best version and producer of this and where can i get it from.I have seen it on various sites and with differing covers but unsure which to go for.

I am now rather intrigued with this movie and though I keep hearing conflicting thoughts on it (which isn't too surprising since horror can be rather picky), I definitely want to see it. France has really become the leader in horror these days.

I checked Amazon and it comes out on unrated dvd on April 28th here in the States.

Added it to the queue at Netflix.

I really liked - it was kinda hard to watch in parts (mostly the self cutting stuff) - though the ending was kinda contrived I still though it was interesting.

The "who cares" was mostly aimed at torture flicks, where there usually isn't much to seek your teeth into psychologically speaking, just to be a bit more precise.

Well, I for one did not think they missed their aim with this "elevation thing", as well as the numbing of the scenes. But hey, to each his own as they say :)

I had my chance to watch this flick last night, and I really enjoyed it.

The first 45 minutes had me blown away - This was my kind of movie. The next part was great as well, I just wish they had elaborated some more on the plot, since they chose to go that way.

As to the "gore" part, I really do not see how you can all talk about people leaving the theatre. I didn't really find this movie to be that harsh to watch. I'm not sure what you all mean, but if you a refering to the whole torture part at the end of the movie, I actuallly thought Girl Next Door was more disturbing.

Honestly, I'm not really sure I caught the whole point, as this copy of the movie was not subtitled.

They wanted to "produce" a martyr, which is a person that sees into the world of the dead, in order to know what it is like?

This movie was great!


My fav of the month

In a way isn't that the very nature of Exploitation films - isn't faces of Death an indepth look at the mystery of life and Hostel is a critic of western society where any thing can be bought..

I think alot of exploitation films try to justify themselves in that way and try to condemn what infact is the films major selling point. I think Martyrs did this slightly better and is more 'respectable' than Ilsa SheWolf or Last house but I think it uses the same methods in a lot of ways...

When i read the reviews i was like - wow finaly, what i've been waiting for.
the only thing that i don't agree on is about the last 30 minutes, that i read was the most disturbing, it was, but i think they took a bit to long, i know that the porpuse was for us to see what was the torture all about, and with that horrifying conclusion. When i say to long, i mean, they could have perhaps took it a bit more violently like the first 45 minutes, or not, lol.

Anyways, i was really hoping for this movie to blow me way, and it did, unfortunately a remake it's on it's way... i have already lost my interest on battleling that same old discussion...

i'm from europe, and i fear the french, they are insane...:eek:

:D give us more:)

This movie was absolutely horrendous. A bigger piece of shit than the presents I leave in the toilet after all you can eat buffet at Pizza Hut. I guess an out of left field "explanation" for the cult's reasoning behind their tortures dupes people into believing the film is deeper and more important than it actually is.

I watched this last night and I thought it was amazing.
Probably the best newer horror movie I've seen.
I loved it.

I have seen various copies of Martyrs online.Play.com for one have one such copy yet there are other versions apparently.The one that i like has `uncut`slapped on the cover but is this truly the case as it would seen to put uncut on a film is just a publicity ploy to get you to buy that copy.

http://www.movietyme.com/catalog/pro...ducts_id=44721

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/91514...s/Product.html

Which should i go for guys?

I have got a locally produced (pirated) dvd copy of the film but the problem is it has no English subtitles (like the way Angra saw it few days back)!:o

Will it be 'okay' to see this film without understanding the dialogs?:rolleyes:

I watched Martyrs this weekend. The first half or so was great. Very disturbing and powerful. Unsettling even. Then... Well... The movie fell apart for me. The mystical, psuedo-religious crap really killed the movie for me. It's like they had two different writers. One serious, the other campy. I realize they went with the plotline they did in order to try to elevate the movie from simple torture-porn, but it was done in such a schlocky, gimmicky way. To me at least, it was a valiant effort that started very strong, but just fell short at the end.

Not really. The first half or so will be fine because it's pretty straightforward. You will probably be able to figure out why what's happening is happening. The last third or so of movie will make no sense whatsoever. Especially the ending. If you're just wanting to see torture and gore it'll be fine, but if you want to know why said torture and gore is occurring, you will probably be lost.

I watched this flick without subtitles, and understood most of it. As with Inside and Haute Tension, there isn't too much dialogue.

However, if you do not understand French at all, then the second half of the movie might not make too much sense.

Subscene probably has some. Shame on you though.

Why? :D :D I haven't seen it yet, As there are some mixed reviews so I can now wait for its dvd release with Eng sub.

Well.. As long as you buy a proper release, I don't mind you using a pirated one to begin with. :D

NOT WORTH WATCHING! I watched it with my boyfriend. I must say watching anna get the shit beaten out of her but some piece of shit was enough to make me want to puke. Its very hard for me to watch torture films because i think there worthless movies.























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The end when she hears lucies voice saying not scared now and stuff i got goosebumps when she looked up her eyes swollen shut and what not. Just broke my heart. What got me the most was when they hooked her up the that metal thing and stripped her naked and ripped her skin off. I have to say this movie sucked!! Another pointless stupid movie about someone being tortured. Two thumbs down.

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One thing i forgot to add though for those of you who seen what did you think of the ending? I though it was macabre but thats just me..

Amazing movie. I'm still thinking about it 3 days after watching it.
Absolutely brutal, horrifying, deplorable, painful, unrelenting....

SPOILERS (highlight)!!!!!
I thought at first the movie was going to be pretty standard with the overblown "Castle Freak" part. At that point, I was pretty sure the movie was just all hype and nothing else. Don't get me wrong, that part was creepy and when you imagine that that girl had been there for 15+ years is almost unbelievable, but compared to all the horror movies I have seen in my life, it still didn't affect me that much.

How could I have known that this was only the set-up to lure you into the world, then *ahem* beat you into submission in the last 30 minutes of the movie. The whole scene with the "black surgeon" was one of the most shocking scenes I have ever seen. Sure, it's not like we haven't seen a skinless person before in movies like Hellraiser 2, but that is fantastical! This....this was meant to be real. Not a demon or a zombie...a real person just barely hanging onto life. Absolutely insane.

The best part? The movie didn't just come off as (I hate the term, but I'll use it anyway) "torture porn". It had so much going on, so many subtleties....

I don't know if I'll be able to watch it again anytime soon...it's that good.

The movie is not for everyone, but to say it "sucked" blows my mind. The fact that it affected some of you so much should give a clear example that it *didn't* suck. My example is always Requiem for a Dream....there is so much BAD STUFF going on in that movie, I felt dirty after watching it. I had to call my mom! But it is unquestionably superb film-making. I believe this movie is also superb. To write it off as "more torture porn" is truly sad, but that is my opinion only.

-D

I wanna watch it but I can't bring myself to watch it. Maybe if enough people think it's a good idea for me to watch it, I will tape it on webcam so you can all at least get a laugh.

watch it haha

I want to so bad, but for a long time now I can;t stand feeling uncomfortable. Movies that U watched when I was little like The Shining and TCM, I just sit there covering my eyes and can barely take it, until I end up turning it off cause it's too much. I love horror movies, and I'm so sad that I can barely watch them anymore.

Derek suggested I watch light horror movies and work my way up to scarier, more uncomfortable stuff so he's got me watching Supernatural and stuff. Doesn't cut it really. I literally threw up at the theatre for the last 2 Saw movies. I think I'll use Martyrs as a way to get over it.

Awe i didnt know it was like that for you. Then dont watch it. I felt so uncomfortable and dirty and watching this movie. I was like wtf why did i just watch this filth? I can typically handle any movie i dont like torture ones but i dont puke or anything during them. I would definatly not watch this movie until your mentally and physically prepared...its pretty icky.

and so I have heard, but I'm trying to figure out what happened to change me. Like I went from watching Suspiria and Cannibal Halocaust one day to not being able to handle my old favourites the nest. I'm dead set on watching it though, hopefully the feeling is no worse than the "turn off" feeling I got when watching Haute Tension.

Ah, I didn't realize you were that squeamish when I replied to your twitter, MM. If you had issues with Saw movies...then DEFINITELY DO NOT WATCH, haha.

-D

Nonono not squeamish. I just get very upset very easily. I saw your tweet and Roshiq replies on facebook. I decided to watch Inside, which I am doing now.

edit: don't even think I can take this anymore

I dont like this movie

real horror movie

Watch semum

Find torrentz

Okay so if anyone wants to see the funniest thing ever I will post a video of me watching the tracheotomy scene from Inside. I actually found that recording my reactions to the movie therapeutic. I watched the movie, felt uncomfortable, watched my reactions and laughed my ass off at how silly I am. :D

do it!!!!!! i wanna see

I will. There were 2 parts that made me look rediculous. I'm gonna edit the video and post it (reluctantly, since it was 4:30 when I started recording and I'm in bed in pyjamas and no makeup).

ohh send me the real copy so i may laugh for a while?? lol

no was hunny. It's like a half hour long so I cant really host it without a lot of trouble, I'm putting in the fun parts. Everything else it me biting my nails or just sitting there.

haha fine! lol you know i never thought of how funny it would be to tape yourself watching a gross movie..i might have to try it sometime lol

I just finished watching it. It's an intense movie. I would say it's definitely worth a watch but I would be careful who I recommended it to. It's neat to see the polarizing effect it's having on genre fans.