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Watched Casino Royale last night and was falling in love with it all over ..
wanted to see it again for the benefit of my son (and a barometer) because we're seeing Quantum of Solice this Saturday.

it had some flaws ...

- the 1st bond girl was stunning but couldnt act .. her laugh .. yikes !
- vesper lynn was annoying in the beginning - couldnt stand it when she spoke ... she was better - more natural ...after she started falling for bond. (maybe that was the point - but it still irritated me)


but the pluses ! wow

- the best title sequence in a Bond film by far - great song too.
- back to basics with a more physical, brutal bond
- no stupid gadgets
- a fairly complex story (compared to the past)

I'm so freaking pumped for the next one that i want to watch casino royale evey night this week (but i wont)

am i alone here or is anyone else chomping at the bit ?

I still havent seen casino royale, can you believe that? I wasnt interested at first, but the more I saw of daniel craig's intensity, i got more and more into wanting to see it (I am a die hard bond fan since i was 5, first one for me was for your eyes only ina drive in), i have seen all of them MANY times, even that detestable woody allen Casino Royale.

I enjoyed Austin Powers on a level that only my dad could have appreciated, and of course he couldnt be bothered to see it.

We had it from Netflix almost a year ago and it wound up back in the mail somehow without me seeing it...

So i must before I see Quantum, and i am dying to.

holy crap - how could a diehard bond fand not have seen this movie yet ??!!
even my wife liked it. (bond films are laughingly sexist - most women despise them)

Craigs Bond fixes everything that was wrong with the series since the 1st few.


and you absolutely have to see it before Quantum ... apparently it picks up right where Casino leaves off...

I am a James Bond fanatic. I've seen all the movies at least once (On Her Majesty's Secret Service is not a favorite), but I really loved what they did with Daniel Craig and Casino Royale. He has really become my favorite Bond and has taken the Bond legacy to a whole new level. I am hoping to see Bond next weekend with my dad. We've seen every Bond movie together in the theater since The Living Daylights. Can't wait!

I could never manage to get into any of the Bond movies at all...

But...It's cool that you're so excited about it :D

i've had to cover my chair with plastic !!!

I'm wb........newb

Always been a fan of Bond. Ever since watching Dr. No as a small boy......hell..Ursla Andress walking out of the water in her white bikini may have been my first boner.

And I love the gadgets.....probably why I was also a big fan of Get Smart when I was a kid. Now that I'm a "mature" [ hee hee] movie watcher I don't mind that they did away with the gadgets and I really like the last Bond.

So YES......I am looking forward to the new one.

Craig has been the best Bond on the scene, after Sean Connery. He has literally nailed the Bond Ian Fleming always imagined of...I am sure if Ian was alive today, he would be pretty proud.

I thought the guy who was Le Chiffre did a very good job too. He captured the essence of the character quite well. Vesper could have had more meat (all puns intended!), but she was competent till the end.

Quantum has been getting rave reviews and blockbuster openings wherever it has opened so far, so yeah...it should be good. Real good.

Good times ahead for the franchise. Hope they keep the quality going.

Casino Royale was a good Bond movie for sure but personally I missed some of the gadgets. I also didn't like Bond having to be rescued constantly, but we'll see where the next movie takes him.

I like the Bond Craig plays but I don't like Daniel Craig himself. He always seems so moody and ungrateful.

As for Quantum, many of my friends, several of them HUGE Bond fans who loved Casion Royale, HATED it. They said it's pointless, boring and doesn't feel like a film in itself, more like a bridge between Royale and the next one.

Casino Royale was a great film, and the song was brilliant.

I think everybody has favourite Bonds. Who are yours? Mine go:

Roger Moore - He just exuded class, which was exactly as people wanted Bond at that time.

George Lasenby - Similar to the above and also he played the ending scene of One Her Majesty's Secret Service brilliantly. A really touching scene where Bond has been so affected by the tragedy, he can't hide his emotion.

Daniel Craig - True to the books.

Piers Brosnan - Seemed to have a good balance of fighter and class.

Sean Connery - I just find him overrated. He was okay, but I preferred all of the above.

Timothy Dalton - Terrible. The man's lucky he redeemed himself with his performance in Hot Fuzz.

Interestingly, the film Quantum of Solace has nothing to do with the Fleming story it shares a title with. The story is about Bond at a dinner party with a bunch of people who he despises, and a story of marital infidelity one of the guests tells.

For the film, they just made up a new story and used the title because they wanted to be able to say it was based on a Fleming sory.

And BTW- The earlier Casino Royale was not a Woody Allen film- he just happened to play a character in it. It was directed by seven different people and David Niven, who played Bond, was Ian Fleming's first choice to play Bond. It was the only time he got the honor.

are they even saying that ? or are they saying they just used the title ?

there are about 2 bond films that follow the ian flemming stories.

I dont really care to be honest - some of the books werent that great (The Spy Who Loved Me was terrible)

i like the direction this is going ... with one story following the other. I think its cool that we'll be able to watch his character build and have an actual story line to follow - with maybe some continuity.

Who said it was a Woody Allen film? Doesn't he play James Bond's Nephew?

The original Casino Royale was more of a spoof of the books if anything.

Interestingly, many people believe it was the first Bond to be released, not including the episode of Climax!. It was actually released in 1967, the same year as You Only Live Twice, which was the fifth film in the EON series.

As for the quantum of Solace name, it came from a short story in the novel For Your Eyes Only, which was a book containing five separate stories. And Bond is barely even in the quantum section.

[QUOTE=_____V_____;756821]Craig has been the best Bond on the scene, after Sean Connery. QUOTE]

Ok. This has to be said. Sean Connery sucked at being Bond. He was nothing like the original novel Bond. Craig> Connery

[QUOTE=Posher778;756878]I wouldn't say he sucked but he wasn't as good as everybody likes to think.

[QUOTE=ferretchucker;756881]I think I can settle with that argument :)

Don't expect kids born in the 90s to see Connery's Bond in the right light, and what he brought to the character, anyway.

Connery's is still my fave...

Don't be so condescending kiddo, you're not much older than me. It's not like you were alive when his Bond films came out yourself. Who do you think you are? Newb? :)

It's only because he was the first Bond that people seem to like him so much. Plus, he lost all respect from me when I found out about Never Say Never Again.

I mean... let's face it. His version of Bond is totally generic.

I agree connery was a shitty bond..

How can it be generic when he was the first one?

Generic?

Suave... confident... strong...

I'm generic too.

I did, and I think you are right, he was "Jimmy Bond":rolleyes:


I realise i was insinutating that allen directed it, although i was vaguely aware that he only acted in it. but 7 directors? Explains why it was such a godawful mess.


Although i liked several of the pink panther movies, i never had any use for the 60's "wacky romp and caper" movies.

i liked all the bonds - including Lazenby and Dalton .. for each his own thing.
I didnt appreciate the movies they were in all the time ...

I used to think the Roger Moores were the best because they were the 1st i saw. (I saw The Man With The Golden Gun at the show - it was my 1st)


looking back .. the Roger Moore films were the weakest in content ... played mainly for laughs ... but Roger Moore did OK with what he was given.

i thought Dalton was a step in the right direction when he came along .. they just didnt go far enough.

Craig is setting the bar to where it's never been before.
Brutal, smart, physical, no nonsense.

It sfunny, because big complaint i have heard baout dalton was that they were too serious. I guess after almost 20 years of moore and the slapstick that was thrown in, they were more depressing, but I always liked him.

I never cared for lazenby, and thought 80% of On Her Majesty's Secret Service was retarded, but the end redeems it and gives the whole series an edge that doesnt exist before it.

I am interested in Craig's bond now because as I have gotten older, I have grown out of a lot of what i liked about the old ones and gravitate towards harsher things.

It's interesting how many people say they like Craig because he's a more violent, visceral Bond, "closer to the real James Bond," when Fleming's first choice to play the role was David Niven. It's clear the sophistication & wit are what he was interested in portraying. The studio went with Connery because they wanted a more masculin, physical approach.

I'm not saying Craig isn't great. I'm just saying it's interesting....

I was thinking this when you mentioned David Niven earlier.

Its interesting what an author envisions vs what people who read his work envision.

Love Bond films. QOS looks killer. Can't wait to see it. I can't really think of a 007 actor that has "sucked". They all have brought something good to the table. My favorites are Sean Connery and Roger Moore. Keep in mind that I haven't seen all of the films.

that is weird - because Flemming didnt portray Bond that way in the books ...
he was written as cruel, not an attractive man .. and definately brutal.

weird how Flemming would write him one way but want to see him on film another ..

it is not unusual for a writer to not be able to exactly convey what they think on paper. Sometimes, the words you want escape you, other times, what ends up working in the story is not what you originally wanted.

he wrote a hell of a lot of these books .. and he was very specific in them..

i suspect he liked Nivin and wanted a bankable star n the role.
there were probably different expectations between the printed word and the world of film as well.

folks today are much more demanding..

Roger Moores take on the new Bond


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Movie audiences nowadays expect scenes of graphic violence in James Bond movies, unlike when Roger Moore played the super spy with a tongue-in-cheek humor, the actor believes.

"I am happy to have done it, but I'm sad that it has turned so violent," Moore said before "Quantum of Solace," starring Daniel Craig as a darker Agent 007, opens in North America on Friday.

"That's keeping up with the times, it's what cinema-goers seem to want and it's proved by the box-office figures," Moore told Reuters in an interview about his memoir, "My Word is My Bond."

The new Bond film opened in London on Oct 31, breaking the British weekend box-office record with a gross of $25 million. It has taken in more than $106 million worldwide so far.

Moore, 81, recalled being appalled at the violence in "A View to a Kill," the 1985 movie which was the last of the seven in which he played Bond. "That wasn't Bond," he said.

In his book, Moore writes of his distaste for guns, ever since he was shot in the leg by a friend with a BB gun as a teenager.

While making "The Man With the Golden Gun," director Guy Hamilton wanted Bond to be tougher and had him threaten to break Maud Adams' character's arm to get information, he writes. "That sort of characterization didn't sit well with me, but Guy was keen to make my Bond a little more ruthless.

"I suggested my Bond would have charmed the information out of her by bedding her first. My Bond was a lover and a giggler, but I went along with Guy," the British actor wrote.

Moore has not yet seen "Quantum of Solace," but based on Craig's first Bond film, "Casino Royale," believes it will be a success in North America too.

"Daniel has done one Bond and he was in 'Munich' and ... he's done a lot of stuff, but his face, after one Bond film, that's all he needs. He is Bond."

so roger moore preferred a lighter, fluffier bond.


i dont think this had jack shit to do with what audiences want re. violence ... i think its what they want re. something true to the origional character.

something had to bring the franchise back to life..

I don't think so. Think how few of the people nowadays who watch the Bond films have read any of the books. I know nobody who has ever read a James Bond book. I think I agree with him. Not that it should be happier and funnier, but that it suits the time. With all of the current action films, this is just what the people want. And in his day, the Bond he played was what people wanted. At the end of the day, the studio wouldn't be too bothered if it wasn't even the slightest bit close to the book if they thought they'd make loads of money.


And I have to say, I'm surprised at how few people liked Lazenby. I thought he was perfect in the role and should have done more.

I never cared for lazenby. He just didnt have the look or the sound to me. Plus ohmss was too different from the rest when I saw it. I like how it changed all subsequent movies, but aside from that....

I really liked the theme tune for On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Something I can't say for Quantum.

For the first time in my life..I'm thinking of going abroad just for 1 or 2 days to see a film in the theater and that film is QoS. Cause the authorities here doesn't allow the theaters to show any newly released foreign films for some stupid reasons, moreover the theaters here are also can't afford to bring a new movie.

Anyways, I'm quite seriously planning to make a trip to India (Kolkata) in the first week of next month with some friend just to see this new bond film.

NOT WORTH IT! How much does a cinema ticket cost? How much does a plane ticket cost. Just drive somewhere that will let you or download it off the internet.