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urgeok2 08-15-2008 06:11 AM

Define 'Chick Flick' ?
 
A buddy of mine recently refered to The Breakup as a 'chick flick'
I was taken aback .. to me it was a well done comedy with some insightful things to say about relationships. I couldnt see where a guy would enjoy this movie any less than a gal.

Then i started to think - what would i consider a chick flick ...

I know 'romantic comedies' get called chick flicks ... but i dont get that either .. i find they're comedies - either well done or poorly done.

So does the measure of how well it's done elevate it from the status of 'chick flick' ? isn't that negatively sexist ?

After contemplating this - in the shower this morning ...where i do all my best thinking - i came to the conclusion that the only thing i would consider a chick-flick - is a poorly made drama .. where boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy loses arm in a tractor accident, girl cares for boy, and little Joey gets stuck in a well after a battle with an incurable liver disease.

that being said - i would only consider this a chick-flick to s specific few chicks .. sad, lonely, none-too-bright.

Certainly none of the 'chicks' i know - but they must be out there.




so does that make sense to anyone else or do most of you knuckle dragging beetle browed football eating neadrathals just consider anything without a body count (as a result of extreme violence) a chick-flick ?

ferretchucker 08-15-2008 06:30 AM

I donīt think any film an be entirely a chick flick but i suppose itīs one that the film maker has chosen females as the target audience. But every film appeals to some people not in their target audience.

newb 08-15-2008 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 721778)
so does that make sense to anyone else or do most of you knuckle dragging beetle browed football eating neadrathals just consider anything without a body count (as a result of extreme violence) a chick-flick ?

there it is




I think any movie with MORE romance than any other element .....i.e. comedy,action,horror.....would be considered a "chick flick".


Brokeback Mountain,in my eyes, would be a "chick flick".

_____V_____ 08-15-2008 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 721787)
Brokeback Mountain,in my eyes, would be a "chick flick".

And me and newb enjoyed that together quite a bit. :D


Seriously though, the ones with the mushy-wushy, teary-eyed stuff, long-drawn out sequences of forlorn lovers...the ones with endings so sweet they make your back teeth ache with a heavy throb...

"Reality bites" - not a motto for these ones.

And of course, the "Mean Girls" and "Parent Trap" kinda flicks.

urgeok2 08-15-2008 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 721791)
And of course, the "Mean Girls" and "Parent Trap" kinda flicks.

see - to me:

- Mean Girls is a teen comedy
- Parent Trap is a disney film ..

i wouldnt consider them to be chick flicks

crabapple 08-15-2008 07:22 AM

I would make a really strong suggestion that Disney's "ENCHANTED" is a chick flick. Because it's really girl-oriented and romance-oriented, it has hunka guys in it, and songs are sung. Oh, and it has animated characters and Susan Sarandon. In other words, it's a chick flick. :rolleyes: ;)

urgeok2 08-15-2008 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by crabapple (Post 721804)
I would make a really strong suggestion that Disney's "ENCHANTED" is a chick flick.

naaah

disney film/fairy tale satire

ferretchucker 08-15-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 721807)
naaah

disney film/fairy tale satire

Yes theyīre that, but I think a chick flick could be any genre, just a film with the storyline and casting etc. aimed at pleasing females more.

Posher778 08-15-2008 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 721787)


Brokeback Mountain,in my eyes, would be a "chick flick".

That's a dick flick you moron:rolleyes:

urgeok2 08-15-2008 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 721821)
That's a dick flick you moron:rolleyes:

well, not so much a 'flick' as a 'serious pounding'

crabapple 08-15-2008 09:37 AM

I laughed out loud until I threw up a little!

alkytrio666 08-15-2008 09:49 AM

I would say that a chick flick could be defined as any film that is made as a vehicle intended only to employ a "feel-good" message aimed at women- you know, girl power.

Legally Blonde, Just Like Heaven, 27 Dresses, etc.

These films were made with women in mind- that's it. There was no other target audience.

crabapple 08-15-2008 09:58 AM

Yeah like those Order of the Pants movies or wherever they're called.

Dante'sInferno 08-15-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crabapple (Post 721837)
I laughed out loud until I threw up a little!

Gives a whole new meaning to "Poo nutts" doesn't it?:D

Doc Faustus 08-15-2008 10:30 AM

Any film made for a female target audience that results in demeaning and patronizing them by its lack of good sense is a chick flick. Example: About a Boy possesses intelligence and pathos and has a well written script. It is sort of made for a female audience. Not a chick flick. 13 going on 30 was written by monkeys and has nothing going for it but the kind of saccharine emptiness the stereotypical braindead female studios have targeted it towards is looking for.

Leland_malinski 08-15-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 721842)
Any film made for a female target audience that results in demeaning and patronizing them by its lack of good sense is a chick flick. Example: About a Boy possesses intelligence and pathos and has a well written script. It is sort of made for a female audience. Not a chick flick. 13 going on 30 was written by monkeys and has nothing going for it but the kind of saccharine emptiness the stereotypical braindead female studios have targeted it towards is looking for.

my thoughts exactly.. nice..

urgeok2 08-15-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 721842)
. 13 going on 30 was written by monkeys and has nothing going for it but the kind of saccharine emptiness the stereotypical braindead female studios have targeted it towards is looking for.


see - i completely disagree with that assessment of that particular movie ..
i found the entheusiastic performance of the lead to be contagiously engaging..

just a fun movie - an alternative to 'Big'

urgeok2 08-15-2008 12:29 PM

didnt want to bother starting a thread for this - so i'll derail my own ..

just got back from the specialist appointment.

apparently the arthritis in my knee is far worse than the tear - so they're trying a series of injections into the knee instead of surgery ...
the injections will replace the natural lubricant my knee isnt producing at this time.

possibly good news (got the 1st shot immediately - need 2 more - once each week for the next couple of weeks..

if this works i'll be one happy mo-fo

Angra 08-15-2008 02:00 PM

Sex and the city

a definite chick flick

Vodstok 08-15-2008 02:11 PM

Definitive chick flicks are character driven stories with romance and/or emotional growth of the main character, usually a female or a group of females. Conflict is generally in the form of a significant other or a life threatening illness. Climax is always emotional as opposed to action driven. Examples of definitive "chick flicks":

Steel Magnolias
Fried Green Tomatoes
The Jane Austen Book Club
Stepmom
Beaches


Not so typical, but still falling into the category:
Thelma and Louise
Pretty Woman

Despare 08-15-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 721787)
there it is




I think any movie with MORE romance than any other element .....i.e. comedy,action,horror.....would be considered a "chick flick".


Brokeback Mountain,in my eyes, would be a "chick flick".

Pfff, Brokeback Mountain sucked, if it was a man and a woman in that role it would have went unnoticed. By the by, it's funny because my friend and I were just talking about how much we liked the movie Fried Green Tomatoes. That was while we were pre-ranking our fantasy football squads mind you. There are guys that loved The Notebook and there are girls that loved Die Hard, it's unfair to call something a "chick-flick" but it's just as insulting to call a mindless action film a "guy movie".

Angra 08-15-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 721866)
Pfff, Brokeback Mountain sucked, if it was a man and a woman in that role it would have went unnoticed. By the by, it's funny because my friend and I were just talking about how much we liked the movie Fried Green Tomatoes. That was while we were pre-ranking our fantasy football squads mind you. There are guys that loved The Notebook and there are girls that loved Die Hard, it's unfair to call something a "chick-flick" but it's just as insulting to call a mindless action film a "guy movie".

The term Guy Flick or Guy Litterature doesn't excist. Only Chick flick and Chick Lit. Quite sexist isn't it? :rolleyes:


That being said, i'm 100% sure i will never watch Sex And The City. Not even an episode on tv.

Despare 08-15-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 721869)
The term Guy Flick or Guy Litterature doesn't excist. Only Chick flick and Chick Lit. Quite sexist isn't it? :rolleyes:


That being said, i'm 100% sure i will never watch Sex And The City. Not even an episode on tv.

Are you kidding? You've never heard the term "Guy Movie"?

Here's Maxim's 100 Greatest Guy Movies
http://www.filmsite.org/maxim100.html

GQ's 10 Best Guy Movies You've Never Seen
http://men.style.com/gq/features/lan...d=content_6276

CNN talking to the Men's Journal editor about the best Guy Movies.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movi...cnna.horowitz/


"HEMMER: [The] criteria is what for this list?

HOROWITZ: These are movies that guys like, generally that guys can watch in groups, that they remember all the lines [and that] they watch over and over again. It tends to be movies women don't like.

HEMMER: Top three films are?

HOROWITZ: "Dirty Harry," number one. "Godfather," number two. "Scarface," number three."

missmacabre 08-15-2008 02:32 PM

Jane Austin movies are what I consider chick flicks. That and romance mixed with history.

Pride and Prejudice
Emma
Sense ans Sensibility
The Other Boyln Girl
Chocolat
Little Women
titanic

others I would consider chick flicks are Dirty Dancing and Ghost

Despare 08-15-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by missmacabre (Post 721872)
Jane Austin movies are what I consider chick flicks. That and romance mixed with history.

Pride and Prejudice
Emma
Sense ans Sensibility
The Other Boyln Girl
Chocolat
Little Women
titanic

others I would consider chick flicks are Dirty Dancing and Ghost

See, I liked Chocolat, and was indifferent towards Ghost. Not a fan of Dirty Dancing (either is the wife) or Titanic (which the wife loves) and I don't think I've sat through the others. Little Women was a good book though.

Angra 08-15-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 721871)
Are you kidding? You've never heard the term "Guy Movie"?

Here's Maxim's 100 Greatest Guy Movies
http://www.filmsite.org/maxim100.html

GQ's 10 Best Guy Movies You've Never Seen
http://men.style.com/gq/features/lan...d=content_6276

CNN talking to the Men's Journal editor about the best Guy Movies.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movi...cnna.horowitz/


"HEMMER: [The] criteria is what for this list?

HOROWITZ: These are movies that guys like, generally that guys can watch in groups, that they remember all the lines [and that] they watch over and over again. It tends to be movies women don't like.

HEMMER: Top three films are?

HOROWITZ: "Dirty Harry," number one. "Godfather," number two. "Scarface," number three."


Never heard the term no.

Are you sure your read it as Best Guy Movies and not Best Gay Movies? :p

Despare 08-15-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 721874)
Never heard the term no.

Are you sure your read it as Best Guy Movies and not Best Gay Movies? :p

Just take off your wooden shoes, kick your feet up, and read the lists.

missmacabre 08-15-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 721873)
See, I liked Chocolat, and was indifferent towards Ghost. Not a fan of Dirty Dancing (either is the wife) or Titanic (which the wife loves) and I don't think I've sat through the others. Little Women was a good book though.

I hate Jane Austin movies, I was just using them as an example. Loved Chocolat and Little Women. Titanic was a bore. I think I just like movies Like Dirty Dancing and Ghost for the nostalgic, staying up and watching movies with my parents value. Give me romance along the lines of Shaun of the Dead over strictly romance anyday.

Angra 08-15-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 721876)
Just take off your wooden shoes, kick your feet up, and read the lists.

I don't have that kinda time. Sorry.


Why don't you read it to me. :)

Despare 08-15-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 721879)
I don't have that kinda time. Sorry.


Why don't you read it to me. :)

Want me to tuck you in too?



The Breakup was a lot of fun, I think Dan in Real Life was another romantic comedy I enjoyed recently. What about classic romantic comedies like Say Anything? Oh, and The Price of Milk was a little surreal but it was pretty fun too. :)

The Mothman 08-15-2008 04:30 PM

Chickflick=anything that has the word "sisterhood" in it.

ChronoGrl 08-16-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 721778)
A buddy of mine recently refered to The Breakup as a 'chick flick'
I was taken aback .. to me it was a well done comedy with some insightful things to say about relationships. I couldnt see where a guy would enjoy this movie any less than a gal.

Then i started to think - what would i consider a chick flick ...

I know 'romantic comedies' get called chick flicks ... but i dont get that either .. i find they're comedies - either well done or poorly done.

So does the measure of how well it's done elevate it from the status of 'chick flick' ? isn't that negatively sexist ?

After contemplating this - in the shower this morning ...where i do all my best thinking - i came to the conclusion that the only thing i would consider a chick-flick - is a poorly made drama .. where boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy loses arm in a tractor accident, girl cares for boy, and little Joey gets stuck in a well after a battle with an incurable liver disease.

that being said - i would only consider this a chick-flick to s specific few chicks .. sad, lonely, none-too-bright.

Certainly none of the 'chicks' i know - but they must be out there.




so does that make sense to anyone else or do most of you knuckle dragging beetle browed football eating neadrathals just consider anything without a body count (as a result of extreme violence) a chick-flick ?

I honestly find myself doing the same thing. Honestly, if it's mushy and sucks, I pretty much consider it a chick flick. If it's well-written, acted, clever, etc., then I'll throw it in an appropriate genre.

But I agree - I honestly find the phrase "chick flick" to be incredibly offensive and condescending to women film-goers in general. Not going to lie, though - I've caught myself perpetuating this linguistic offense on a number of occasions.

I now broadly refer to these films generally as derivative, insipid, manipulative, pandering and whatever other patronizing vernacular comes to mind.





...

And for the record, ads for Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants II just make me... angry.

crabapple 08-17-2008 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 722087)

I now broadly refer to these films generally as derivative, insipid, manipulative, pandering and whatever other patronizing vernacular comes to mind.

Uh, can I suggest that you maybe speak ENGLISH a little, so that some of us can understand you? Jeez!

pythagoraz 08-17-2008 09:53 AM

All Danielle Steele movies! :(
and yes, Sex in the city...

And the one with the pants... -it's just way too Gilmore Girls to be considered watchable by normal guys. :o

stubbornforgey 08-17-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 721887)
Chickflick=anything that has the word "sisterhood" in it.


movies like pretty in pink
legally blonde
babysitters club
then we have movies like
sex in the city
magnolia [or what ever its called]
brothers and sisters
to me really..any movie where the chick is the domineering one
and the guy ends up on his ass..which to me is sooooooooooo sexist.

ferretchucker 08-18-2008 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 721857)
didnt want to bother starting a thread for this - so i'll derail my own ..

just got back from the specialist appointment.

apparently the arthritis in my knee is far worse than the tear - so they're trying a series of injections into the knee instead of surgery ...
the injections will replace the natural lubricant my knee isnt producing at this time.

possibly good news (got the 1st shot immediately - need 2 more - once each week for the next couple of weeks..

if this works i'll be one happy mo-fo

Well, I'll be the first to comment on this then...

Hope things get better with the new treatment and you can play volleyball again!

Vodstok 08-18-2008 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 722087)
broadly



HAHA! Broadly. Chick Flick.


get it?

stenchofdeath 08-20-2008 09:05 PM

Any feel good movies that the girls can watch and bond over/ share life experiences/ stories with. In my case a romantic film that helps ease the tension in friendship of two stubborn adults.:D

stubbornforgey 08-21-2008 10:47 AM

somebody up there mentioned gilmore girls ..
I HATE GILMORE GIRLS..
non stop freaking talk.. 'argh'

illdojo 08-21-2008 10:55 AM

*Edit*
Vod beat me to it.....Shit!!!


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