Fired....right or wrong?
 

Don Imus' racist remarks got him fired by CBS on Thursday, the finale to a stunning fall for one of the nation's most prominent broadcasters.

Imus was initially suspended for two weeks after he called the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos" on the air last week. But outrage kept growing and advertisers kept bolting from his CBS radio show and its MSNBC simulcast, which was canceled Wednesday.

I don't consider myself a bigot in any sense of the word, and I rarely listened to Imus's show.....but I think this was a bit extreme.His show is basically a comedy show and the remark was said offhandedly during a "bit" with one of his co-host. The remark by itself ,IMO is very offensive and hurtful but looking at the "big picture"....why is this so much worse than song lyrics such as.......

Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks
Lick on deez nutz and suck the dick
Get's the fuck out after you're done
And I hops in my ride to make a quick run... ....by Dr. Dre.

But Al Sharpton comes along and demands Imus be fired and WHAM.......after over thirty years on the radio he's gone......Like Al Sharpton is some kind of moral compass for the youth of today.:rolleyes:

Ok..from a brown persons point of veiw..
I am sick to death of coloured ppl finding offense to every damn thing a white
man says.
Why is it alright for them to incite racial slurs to other cultures but its not ok when the shoes on the other foot.
In my country ..maori call islanders (samoans..tongans..cook islanders..etc) FOBS (fresh of the boats) or coconuts..coons..bunga's
the list is continuous for other races..but fuckit!!
as soon as you call a maori a dole bludger..or a white man says something as simple as 'typical maori' (referring to the amount of crimes this race commits)
'BOOM' racist remark..!!! an apology is demanded yadda yadda yadda..!!

No ..this man should not have been fired..reprimanded yes..but not outrightly sacked.
Its about time coloured ppl looked at themselves in the mirror and ask ...who has the worst case of racial discrimitory slurs ever.?
And stop hiding behind lyrics in a song.
Fuck them...if this is your colour and your proud..no word or remark should
be able to penetrate your thick ass skin.


this pisses me off to no limit. :mad:

Al Sharpton is a RACIST and he still has a radio show!:confused:

I used to watch comedy shows like chappelle..chris rock..eddie murphy over here.
a good example as to what i am referring too.

I found them as funny as having a tooth pulled . 'rolls her eyes'

this is honestly the dumbest thing ever. how many times have we heard black comedians refer to us as crackers and such. no one gives a fuck. its pure and simple hipocracy.

this is stupid.

Racism in any form is insulting and should be clipped off. But the respect from either colored race should be mutual. If the whites give the due space to their black counterparts, they should get some back from them too. It doesnt work one way. Every time a black stands up and says his rights have been violated, people stand up for him. What happens when the case is reversed and its a white on the aggrieved side? The door must swing both ways.

if you're going to make racist remarks towards black people, do it in a book where they won't see them.

If Don Imus was legitimately fired...Then Dave Chappell, Chris Rock, Carlos Mencia, and all of the others who do the SAME thing should be fired, too

It's a bullshit double standard

lol. the ironic thing is that if you were on the radio now and referred ethnic minorities as 'coloured' you'd get into shit. but, your point is well made. there is a double standard and i think a lot of times people mistake a racial problem for socio-economic problem. i think there is still a lot of mileage left in the white guilt thing.

Well, FUCK, I knew there was a void to fill in the "We don't have enough to worry about" section!

All this BS only makes an issue where they shouldn't be.
-Like we need to create a fucking problem 'cause there JUST ISN'T enough shit these days to deal with.
To the fucktards on TV:
Be a cool HUMAN and you'll be jus' fine.

Yeah, be a cool HUMAN!

Like that little guy in the picture.

I've never listened to Imus before (don't think he ever made it to the Minneapolis market) but I was always under the impression that he was sort of a Howard Stern-esque guy to begin with. Very crass & rude & obnoxious, big mouth, etc... Am I wrong?

Anyways, if he is as I thought, then his show has probably always been offending people. Why's this so different? And since when did "nappy headed hos" become a racist remark anyways?

Removed

Apparently what I said "ruined" this topic, and was to real and pissed some people off. So I was kind enough and gave up my free speech! Apparently we don't have that right anymore these days. :confused:

When I heard what he had said, I thought it was a very "Imus" thing to say. I had to listen to him every mornign for about a year before i finally began going to work early and changing the station so i didnt have to. I found him an annoying hypocrit who couldnt take criticism, but really, what he said was just not that bad. If he had Robin (frm stern), he would be fine, because she would laugh and say "Oh you..." and that would have been it. Opie and Anthony could have gotten away with it too (most likely), but I think Mr Imus is a victim of Michael Richard's little tirade. That little incident made the already sensitive twits even more sensitive. AND, Mel Gibson set the stage for that as well.

That being said, Al Sharpton and ESPECIALLY Jesse Jackson need to shut their fucking hypocritical mouths.

I don't think it was the "racist" comment that got that guy fired, it was that and the fact that he called a women's basketball team "hoes".

If he had said "they suck at basketball" or whatever it would have been fine, but when you make derogatory remarks about something that a person has no control over (i.e. age, sex, race, religion, etc.) there will be consequences.

And that whole "it's okay if a black person calls another black person a nigga/nigger but if a white person does it it's racist" is so stupid. It's never okay to call a person a nigger and it doesn't matter what color skin anybody has. People who think it's okay to use that word are completely ignorant morons. Pick up a history book for christsake!

Al Sharpton needs a flesh eating disease really.

See...there is a difference between racist remarks and damn sarcasm.
And ppl think this remark is funny..i find it fucken ridiculous.


Now most of you have turned this into a freak show thread..!!!
1st of all American Maniac..these people did not ask to be kidnapped from thier
homeland and turned into slaves.
They had thier freedom before whites decided they were too lazy to work thier own lands...and here you are saying...they should be grateful to you all for ALLOWING them thier freedom and equal rights ..and to actually have a voice.
They even had thier names changed!!!!!
Take it from somebody who is brown skinned to have thier original name taken off them and given another because a certain race didn't think that the name 'Rona' wasn't appropriate for the school.and em part Chilean'
NO..the original topic to this thread has gone all to hell.

But on the other hand..these issues should be put away but not forgotten... however for as long as radicals hang on to the past...this world will never be able to step into a better future.


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Yeah, he's getting big:)

he's beautiful!!!!
:D

What's to expect with something like this, of course it's going to get down and gritty. To stubbornforgey I apologize to you, I was just stating how I feel about the topic, i'm not at all a racist and in the respect since I upset a few I removed my comment.

Imus should've been fired just for being boring and that's all.
If Martin Luther King was alive today, do you think he'd rent 'White Chicks' ? :p
CK

I don't think he'd want to.
Crappy movie.

It doesn't really have to get too down or gritty. Just a bit of discussion about race relations. It seems we make great leaps......much has changed in the last thirty years....but sometimes one stupid little remark brings it right back to square one.

It makes me a sad newb:(

wait a sec, what are we talking about now?

thanks!
Yep,I had everything to do with that:D JK-lol

This sounds a bit like the Ron Atkinson controversy in the UK, when 'Big, Racist' Ron declared a black footballer to be a "fucking lazy thick nigger" when he thought the microphone was off. Although hardly a commentator of any worth to begin with (his wheezy adoration of former club Manchester United is the abiding memory), there were many who seemed to leap to his defence for reasons best known to themselves ("Oh, he didn't mean it!", "He's not racist!" etc.).

The bottom line in all this is, famous people and people whose words are heard by millions have an obligation reflected in their pay packets to keep to acceptable standards - it makes sense that those standards include not using the characteristics of black women's hair to connect with prostitution. Even if this was intended for adult audiences only, there is no escaping the blatant use of directed racism in his insult.

Only the ideallists would wave the whole thing away as an overreaction, because 'it's what he does'... but if this kind of thing is allowed to flourish and go unpunished, what kind of message does it send?

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are "Pimping the poor" . They are the reason why some folks find themselves in the situation that they are in.

White guilt needs to end.

Blacks need to stop seeing themselves as victims all the time. Of course if they did then Al and Jesse wouldnt have jobs.

Imus was an idiot for saying what he did. But he has a right to say it and should not have been fired for it.

I get a little tired of people bowing down to emotional hysteria.

It isn't hysteria, it's a line being crossed and the public and commercial reaction to it.

People obviously don't like racism broadcast to millions.

Imus did have a right to say it, but he should have been fired for it.

Politicians and campaigners will always seize the opportunity to jump on bandwagons and gain support, but this does not change the facts of the matter.

The biggest problem I have with it is Sharpton and Jackson. Jackson shows up at the White House to console Clinton after his scandal and brings his mistress along while it seems we've all forgotten about Sharpton and Tawana Brawley; these people act like saints and live like sinners. Like meethecreeper said, if there were no racists these two would not have jobs. All they do is drive a wedge further between the races. As for Imus, he has the right to say whatever he wants but the people who pay him for his services have every right to disagree with what he says and send him packing.

C'mon brother racism is spewed out everday on television and radio by people from all races. Problem is its only called racism when white people do it.

If a black man does it on stage its called entertainment. although he is not black look at Carlos Mencias show. For the most part every skit he does could be called racist. But I dont see whites, latinos, asians, arabs and etc. protesting comedy central.

Its just my opinion but I think the majority of people in the world think emotionally and not logically.

Maybe the next time I hear a black comic make jokes about white people I'll jump on the bandwagon and scream racism too.

The next time somebody makes a joke about the Irish being drunks I'll wait until I sober up and sue their asses.


Seriously though, we could say something like that if we wanted to but if one of us were to say it at work our employers should be able to take any action they feel is appropriate. Imus could draw advertisers so his employers couldn't make money... no money no Imus. He's done a lot of good for charity, he's still well liked by a lot of people I think, and I'm sure he'll land on his feet.

no I am soz for being so over dramatic..
(feeling a bit sad for having to go away for 2 weeks and leaving my baby)

but i totally agree in most part..where does one draw the line in these cases.
This man who was fired has every right to freedom as speech as any other..being coloured or not...his comments were taken well out ot context
Every country has thier history as does every culture and prejudices ..its a bit like the untold blonde jokes out there.
So why is it that the colours think that they are the only one hard done by?
Take the jew for an example and thier plight.
We could sit here and hash out the right and wrong ways to approach differences when it comes to races and religions and other certain topics that are deemed taboo'.
The stupidest part about my lineage is this..
in my family..there are only 6 of us that are brown skinned (part maori/part chilean).it was the white assed ones who copped most of the racial slurs
from full blooded maori.
Personally..i find these amusing and nor do i find anything offensive..but disrespect the snickers choccie bar.. and we may have a problem !!!!:D

I agree with all of this.

I dont know if I can put my thoughts to the right words, but yes, racism is a big menace, not only in America, but the world over. We have people here hanging each other publicly as to the religion they belong to, and the colour of their race. If he is darker and is of the minorities, he doesnt get much respect in the social community. Sure he gets a job because of the quota, but no societal recognition. Even a poor person belonging to a high religion is respected. But that isnt all. The government is constantly improving the conditions for these minorities hence the higher caste people tend to get edged out, when it comes to selection of jobs, availability of daily wages, quotas etc. which is driving the resentments between the races only wider.

Here people are also divided as to the region to which they belong. Its like having 30 countries in India. Each state is a country in itself, and an outsider from another state, faces a lot of difficulty while adapting or adjusting himself to the new place.

National television over here has comedians and humorous people poking at the regional differences and colour/religious differences both. For example, a Sardar from Punjab is said to have very less grey cells and small IQs by the rest of the country, so they are always the biggest butt-ends of jokes. The South Indians get ridiculed for their pronounciation of the national language, and the East Indians for their gross ignorance about matters as a whole.

Wow, just re-reading all that which I typed shows that the situation is actually worse here. :(

:) Its everywhere as you say..even in NZ
but i can boast a govt who actually works and listens to the ppl.

As i said..as long as the radicals keep living in the past..
this world will never be able to step into a better future.

being from the uk i can add something here. ron atkinson had been previously the manager of wimbledon f.c. whilst there he signed many more black players than any other club would ever have dreamed of. at the time a lot of the champions of big rons cause were black players who new from many years of character association that he was non racist but occasionally stupid. so, just thought i'd chip in and demonstrate how whitey isn't always pure evil.

Maybe his more relaxed Wimbledon brothers did forgive him (at least publicly), but Big Racist Ron nontheless joins Fuhrman and Richards in the Nigger Guy camp and long may they and their paypackets be reminded of it. Without going to extremes, there is a simple and glaringly obvious line which white broadcasters need to respect and not cross - joking about black stereotyping might approach it, using condecending words such as 'nigger' goes all the way.


Whites have many times been the oppressors in this world, therefore it is natural to cut other races a little slack if they now want to have a dig at 'The Man'. Consider the emotion involved in years of murder and slavery.

think you'll find it was west bromwich albion :cool:

exactly.

also that reminds me www.allsp.com for those who haven't seen the nigger guy south park episode that is pure genius. ;)

Many whites have also fought to help free minorities of oppression and many people of all races have sold their own for profit. I'm sorry but "the man" can be any color.