What are your views on God?
 

I'm not gonna pull a *join my religion* thing, i'm just curious. What is everyone's viewpoint on God? Do you believe that he exists and etc, whatever floats your boat. Just don't turn this thread into a bash religion or something, and try not to say stupid ignorant crap, because I want to keep this one at least semi serious.

How exactly do you believe the world came to be, and we came to be on it?

I believe in my own god. I kind of put some different beliefs together and made up my own. Why not?! It's fun!! All I need is 13 more people, and I can write it off on my taxes!!!:D

I think that what everyone believes deep down, is true (if that makes any sense). This is a tough topic to talk about because everyone has views, none of which can be validated in any real sense. I've read at least 100 different books dealing with different spiritual views and metaphysical subjects. As a result I've come up with my own viewpoint on god, one that is special to me based on my experience and also one which I feel to be true. I really don't need to get into a debate about this subject as I wouldn't ever try to push my way of thinking on anyone else (much as the Catholics have for millenina). I was raised Catholic, by the way, but now I have my own form of religion that is a complete mish-mash of alot of different philosophies. I appreciate much of the New Testament regardless of the fact that the version that we are familiar with is severely edited, and the message manipulated.

who prove more and more each day? lmao

I don't know now, nor have I ever known what you have meant ever. You're going to have to do your best to explain.

Go... flip those burgers like they've never been flipped before.

also don't ever try to be condescending after saying something like this... like I'm not smart enough to know what an illiterate mongo like you is talking about.

OMCDave: im not sure of all that yet but they prove more and more each day that there is no one god ...

That reminds me, I also worship the burger.

After a re-read, I've decided to replace this with a still from the Ant and the Aardvark that I didn't bid on from eBay.

http://dfe.goldenagecartoons.com/ima...t-aardvark.jpg

I don't think you can honestly prove that there is no God. I'd like to see you try to back it up, but know i'll be right there with my facts too.

I agree with you. There is no "evidence" to support anything either. Still don't know who "they" are... haha

That's good to know. But what is your viewpoint exactly?

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I believe in God.

I don't have a viewpoint on religious deities is that a lot of people find comfort in believing that they aren't to blame for the possible good and bad in their lives. They find comfort in believing that there is some sort ultimate justice for everything that they've done and for everything others have done to them. I think religion is as good as it is bad... I think we'd find something else to fight over without religion. I think people who think that without religion or guns there would be no fighting or war are pretty uneducated. I'm not saying that people who think religion is the bane of society are stupid, there are plenty of other things that count against religion... now a debate on how bad religion really is would be interesting.

I live my life as if there were no god. I have my own set of morals, I believe in heaven and hell as states of mind. I try to treat people the way I would expect to be treated, solely because I feel bad when I don't. I am responsible for my life.

It's impossible to know what happens when you die until it happens. Just as it's impossible to know whether or not God exists. Every argument that can be made against the existence of god can also be made to support the existence of god. Every idea is just as plausible as the next in my opinion, so it seems pretty pointless to waste thought into wondering what happens when I die while I'm still alive.

I've come to believe it is human nature to create and worship a higher power.It seems to me that almost all religions resemble eachother in some way.From different mythologies to christianity many times there is a god and a son(Thor, Christ, Hercules).I don't know what religion or god is the right one so I just kinda keep my options open.Who's to say Krishnas or Christians are correct.Hell, maybe nobodys gotten it right yet.

The last few replies were all very impressive, reflecting some of my own beliefs but from a different viewpoint. Obviously, every belief system is shaped by personal experience, which is why I respect everyones ideas on matters such as these. Speaking of the God/Son analogy.... There are records that indicate that the "Jesus" story had been told in many ancient religions in exactly the same manner thousands of years before the birth of Christ...different names of course, but something to think about.

Anyway, I can go on and on and on and...you get the point about this topic, but I don't feel the need to.

Anyway, has anyone read "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle or "The 13th Planet"by Zechariah Sitchin? Is anyone familiar?

They are two vastly different books as far as content goes, but they are very valuable in helping you figure some things out.

To each his own.

Henotheism! (Polytheism with a supreme Godesshead (or Godhead, but not).

I didn't create anything except the patterns of my life.

When shit goes wrong in my life, it's probably my fault.

When shit goes wrong in the world, it's probably humans.

I don't feel compelled to be spiritual. I bloody well enjoy it.

I don't think the Powers that Be compel a person to be spiritual, just so long as the person doesn't going around mucking up the planet or other people.

Essentially, I go with something Plato said, "If you think it. It exists." Now, maybe that's taken out of context, but even having been said...

None of this mandates that I have belong to a religion, however. Religion has a definition in the dictionary, but ultimately it's not something definable. Shit, atheism, because it really, honestly and truly is a belief, could be said to be a religion. Hinduism, is not one religion, in fact it's generic label for a million of different traditions based on the Vedas, Rig Vedas, etc belonging to the Aryan tribes plus, the indigenous religions of that area. Buddhism doesn't really have any gods according to Sidhartha (the Buddha that founded the tradition as we know it), but he stated that if people wanted to believe in them they could. (And when Chan (Chinese) and Zen (Japanese) Buddhism came around, the various sparks off of them created gods out of the various bodhisatvas. (That's a spot where some one could say that people actually created gods.)

Religion is there if you like it. Spirituality is there if you want to explore it. Otherwise, bugger all.

My general beliefs are Buddhist, but my views about "God" are Deist. "God," such as it is, exists, but in a very etherial sense. It is an omnipotent being, and being such, is WAY about any sort of human comprehension. Typical religious beliefs tend to personify "God" with human traits (having a gender, writing books, caring about sex, deciding who wins the Superbowl, et cetera), but "God" is in no way human. As a "creator," "God" (I'm tired of writing "God" like that, so I'll call it Pat from now on, nice gender neutral name so those batty feminists like Haunted don't go for the short hairs at me), didn't just make existance in seven days. The world came into existance through scientific means. Pat doesn't decide what happens, care where we stick our respective sex organs, have a "chosen people," worry about what day it is, or listen to Wolfmother. Pat simply exists. Any attempt to wonder what Pat is like is futile, because, again, humans are ill-equipped to comprehend real omnipotence.

@Murderdoll> There are actually ways of knowing that there is God, they're just really unconventional and no one would care to know about them. Its just interesting at how many people see the world as without a God. I can't judge anyone else by their belief, it just kind of confuses me. If there was no God, then how do you guys believe that the universe actually came to be. Do you really think it was just THERE, at the start of time?

There is actually no such thing as time. I'm not kidding about this, either. Physicists are beginning to find theories to prove this. Look into some of the work of Julian Barbour, or look deeply into the concepts of the Schrodinger wave function, relating to real time vs. local time. Time is a human created concept, made in order to allow us to relate to the universe. In all reality everything is happening in one instantaneous moment, it is just difficult for the human brain to realize this concept.

I don't know about God

but The Devil is Doubt

All I know is I'm supposed to be catholic, cuz I had water sprinkled on my head as a real little kid. I don't buy that. According to an online quiz I took, I'm more buddhist. And I know that really really religious ppl are wacky. I would love to find a mexican named Jesus, fuck him & then go make a t shirt saying "I fucked Jesus" & then go to a church picnic. Or on myspace once I found a mexican named Jesus & he was gay. I could make a shirt that says "Jesus Is gay" & go to a church picnic. I'm not kidding either. But as far as creating the universe & humans etc, I believe more in the scientific. Something where there are actually facts.

That made, no sense, at all.

Like yourself..to each his own.
Instead of asking 'if there was no god then how come..etc..?
try another line...'how do you know god actually exist..??
We are all beleivers in things that have been programmed into our minds ..
like aliens for example..'
If you look at this scientificly...the universe has always existed..planets
created by masses of (insert big scientific name in here)..

There are so many gods..and so many religions out there..
my question to you is this..
how do you know that your god is the one..?

What exactly made no sense? The part where I said I'm supposed to be catholic cuz water was sprinkled on my head in a church? Or the part where I took an online quiz for the hell of it that told me I'm more buddhist? Or the part where I said I wanted to fuck a mexican, named Jesus, make a t shirt go to a church picnic? Or what?

Your punchuation is very sexsical.

You've heard of a little theory called the big bang right?

BTW you should have just called this thread " All non-christians feel free to take a swing at me". I'd rather confuse you with a belief than to take up one that has absolutely no proff or substance other than the fact a lie is believed my millions of people.

I guess you could be a jehovah or a mormon. those are about the only three religions that see it upon themselves to try and argue how right their rules are.

P.S. The fact that this thread wasnt locked right after it was started is an exercise in futility. This thread has been started in every forum ever made and it always ends the same way, locked. Its a fucking stupid thread that never goes anywhere and ends the same way all religious debates do, nowhere fucking special. IMO.

This thread was born to lose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEl4QfcAK2o

sums up my opinion on religion pretty well

[QUOTE=omcdave;545291]I just think you making sense once in a blue fucking moon isn't too much too ask, hun.

Well...what are your thoughts on Godzilla, then?

What if Godzilla was one of us...........

The thread isn't locked, nor should it be. That is, of course, unless we get people proseletyzing, from the prospective of anti Deity or pro Deity ( "Oh you believe in a Supreme Consciousness(es), you're primitive! or "You don't believe in Deity? You're lost without hope!) going on.

Why should anybody be taking a swing at anybody? This was a thread that asked what each person felt about God or a god. This thread wasn't to criticize the beliefs of others, simply listen to them. The only thing that would ruin a thread like this is people who can't listen to another opinion without having to constantly restate theirs. It's not a debate, just a discussion.

My god is an Indian that turns into a wolf.

That's exactly right. Too bad i'm apparently ignorant for thinking that could happen here. Done with this thread.

[QUOTE=X¤MurderDoll¤X;545293]There's one of those in May

Umm...Actually...WE have had literally over 100 threads discussing religion (and other things that are usually forbidden at 'other forums'...such as abortion, gay rights, politics, and other sensitive subjects)...NONE of them were EVER 'locked' or deleted...Sometimes we CAN be relevant and stay on topic, discussing ANYTHING...Some of us are intelligent and mature enough to be able to differentiate between a discussion, a debate, and an argument...Believe it or not ;)

Stating your opinion, even if it's a NEGATIVE opinion about something...Doesn't necessarily mean that you are bashing everyone whose opinion opposes your own

I hate shopping...I did NOT just insult people who shop...