What are your thoughts on satanism?
 

Say I and many others create an organization or church if you will..and begin praising the darkside and engage in tedious
pornographic sessions and use our calling as a method to
release the evil within..But, we only engage in the vigirous
methods on our own compound and never solicit people
to join, we only leave a sign above our Hell saying

"Satanic church" all are welcome to enter.

Say this was inside of your community, please explain your thoughts and possible concerns...maybe tell of your own
fantasy that you have about such a church.

Ummmm....Personally?

I'd join it....

....I'll try anything once.

:) That is good! I expect my family, would disown me for joining.
they have one religious example for life and that is jesus christ.
but I say God is not of the world.

I have nothing against Christians, but I do not believe their religion for the fact that I am sick of them saying one thing and yet they do the opposite of what their religion teaches.

My family would do the same sadly, but I'm really to the point that I wouldn't care.

I know one person that is a Satanist and one that wants to become one.

I knew there was many..

That it's for easily mislead fools...nothing personal, I think the same of all organised "religions". Make up your own rules on "behalf" of some kind of god or entity, change them when enough of your higher-ups see fit.
Sad, pathetic waste of time...see, you don't have to be a satanist to put shit on other religions;)

Satanism is more of a philosophy than anything else.

i thinks its for people who want an easy way to make themselves seem more interesting (to the kinds of people who would consider these things interesting)

its also for people who dont know what the fuck they are thinking.

Re: What are your thoughts on satanism?
 

What would I say?...I'd say "You have no idea what Satanism is"...

I'd also suggest you research a few religions to find one that upholds your own personal beliefs...OR...If you're looking for something that adheres to what you have written here, I'd suggest you create a completely new religion based on those ideas....OR...You could choose to just steer clear of all religion in general

No matter what you choose to do...You really shouldn't call it something that it's not...It could cause some confusion (or just make you look uneducated)



If you're truly interested in 'Satanism'...Here's your first lesson:

Why don't you just open a Red Devil Pizza restaurant instead?

Im down for it as a symoblic form of representation.

I am ALL for sprituality. I beleive good and bad are all the same. There is a very fine line that defines them both.

I TRULY hate christianity and most "Organized religions". Its a form of mind control.

So yeah, rocking a devil shirt or having a few graphic movie posters in my room are all a form of expression. (to me at least).

But like i said, Church of Christianity, Church Of Satan...if its organized, and has "rules"..they are all the same.

I share similar views with Haunted(at least i think). Although i know nothing about Wicca and Paganism, Through several experiences with halucinagenics, i have come to realize that everything around us is "god". Nature one great spirit. Vibes are all around us.

all 'religions/cults/beliefs' start as a philosphy.
then more people get on board and involve rites and rules to 'enforce' their philosophy.

some are just goofier than others.

Here's a small, very compact dissertation on "Satanism."

It, like every other religion, has a lot of folklore behind it. Although some people will call bullshit, saying that it's just a label attatched to whatever they felt like following, a lot of "religion" is. For instance, modern Satanists point back to Prometheus as a good starting point. Even though the Gods told him not to, he gave man the gift of fire. There can be a lot of comparisons drawn between Prometheus and the Christian "Ha-Satan" or Satan. Remember, satan is a title, not an actual person, which stands for "the adversary." Depending on what you believe, he wanted Adam and Eve to eat the "Forbidden Fruit" (it almost certainly doesn't refer to an apple) either to:

a.) Spite "God" and turn his creation against him

or

b.) Share knowledge because he believed that it should be.

B, of course, is part of the key to modern Satanism. The pursuit of knowledge or whatever you want that's being kept from you.

This, unfortunately, can be mis-interpreted, just like a lot in the bible or any other religion. If you think, however, that Satanism is about running around naked in churches with upside down crosses strewn about biting goat heads, you're sorely mistaken.

Re: What are your thoughts on satanism?
 

This instantly made me think of the Davidians aka David Koresh in Waco, TX. I don't know why but all I could think of is the government would try to bring you down, eventually. There is still a church in Waco for the Davidians , one woman a survivor from the fire who lost her husband and 4 children. I go with follow what you believe. There is consiquences no matter what religion you believe in. I agree a lot of religions preach one thing and do the opposite. It's very bizzare.

Well said.


I myself, belong to the church of "Organisms". I am an organist, or what some call "Organism", and a carbon based one at that.


Not to be confused with an "Oragamist", which worships paper sculptures, or an "Organist"; followers of a bizarre cult that sometimes masquerade as organ players for churches to worship their enormous, pipe covered god.


Sounds like you want to start the "Orgasmists" with your tedious pron and all.



Anyone want to become an "Organism"? The membership fee is pretty light, and we have this crazy story about all life coming from bacteria. Way better than that Thetan bullshit they pimp over at scientology.

Agreed


However...Satanism doesn't involve any type of worship...Which I believe is important in what would be considered a 'religion', although I'm not 100% positive about the exact criteria for determining what a true religion is...


What I DO know is:


Satanism is NOT about worshipping Satan (or anyone/anything else)...Satanists do not believe in Satan

Satanism is a belief in YOURSELF

Satanism denies the existence of influential power from ANY external force (deities, nature, crystals, etcetera)...Satanism is a belief that there is no higher power than each human individual

A TRUE Satanist believes that HE alone has the power to make his life what it is, good or bad...That only HE has the power to cause change in his life by his own actions...He believes in himself, has faith only in himself, doesn't depend on anything else, and takes responsibility for his own actions...A Satanist never says "Please God, help me"...Or..."The devil made me do it"...Get what I'm saying?


Seri calls it 'narcissism'...



It doesn't really seem like any type of 'religion' to me...But, I suppose it's a matter of perception

yo...nice to see you BR...


I d summarise Satanism in one sentence...its an easy way for attention seekers to grab the spotlight very conveniently...

Good to 'see' you, too :)

I agree with what you said...But, I would add..."especially those who do not know what it means, and associate it with some sort of devil/demon"

haha...I look better when I m not "visible" around...if you know what I mean...:p

very true indeed. Most of the dumb f***s dont even know what it means, and just follow others in what they do. Its a classic case of one blind man leading another through a dark alley.

then why the hell is it called SATANism ?


its like christians not believing in christ.

I know...It does cause confusion

But...The 'Satan' in 'Satanism'...Is used as a WORD, not an actual name of any entity/person...
It pretty much just means that you're against everything else, concerning religion...That the only thing that's REAL or holds any type of power, is yourself.....Which, is perceived as being adverse to God

Most modern Satanists I know don't go flaunting it about. I only know they're Satanists through nights of long philosophical debate.

As to why it's associated with Satan, I think the post I had on the first page can help sum that up.

I have seen many brag bout it and try to influence others into it. Attending a black mass is like some sort of prestige issue for those guys. Also they had some special rites on June 6th this year, of which I m not aware of.

That's also a VERY valid point...A REAL Satanist usually doesn't even mention it...It's almost always the ones that say things like "I practise Satanism" without any provocation, that use the term incorrectly, usually hoping for some dramatic response....That was why I added to ___V___'s statement

I tried :)

Those aren't Satanists. Those are idiots.

well then,

i guess i'm a satanist by definition ..

but i prefer humanist.

as soon as you give it some kind of title it becomes something bigger than what it really is. and subject to interpretation.

i wouldnt go around calling myself a satanist because i dont believe in the presence of a higher power and i know i ultimately control my own destiny.

by the way :


A TRUE Satanist believes that HE alone has the power to make his life what it is, good or bad...That only HE has the power to cause change in his life by his own actions.............., and takes responsibility for his own actions...A Satanist never says "Please God, help me"...Or..."The devil made me do it"...Get what I'm saying?



that is also what a true christian believes.

Yeah...That sounds like 'Devil Worship' to me...Not Satanism...

Black masses are also included in Paganism/Wiccanism...COMPLETELY different from Satanism...As Pagans and Wiccans definitely believe in external forces...

haha...hence I said ^^^ above. Trust the guys with plenty of piercings and goth stuff to proclaim "I am a Satanist!" :rolleyes:

The younger generation hooked on phonics and drugs doesnt know which is which. All they are aware of is that they are following something, and its something which elevates them above the level of us mortals.

Ha...You said it better than I did That's a very astute analysis...And actually true...Atheists do hold the same beliefs as Satanists...But, yeah, who needs the title?


But...They accept (need) help from God, usually when times get rough...and sometimes BLAME God when things go wrong

A Christian believes "God helps those who help themselves".....But...A Satanist believes "Only I can help myself"

Its like looking at the same stuff from different angles.

Write a 6 on your hand, looks 6 from your side, and looks 9 from the other side...

I know a few people who are considered 'goth'...I don't know anyone who has proclaimed themelves to be 'Satanists' and definitely NOT 'Devil Worshippers'....The people that I know consider themselves to be either Christian, Pagan, Wiccan, Atheist, Agnostic or 'other'....It's pretty much just like any other sect of society...Or community... And that's what it's usually about...They have NO faith in themselves...So, they look to some other source to make them something that they can't achieve on their own...It's actually pretty sad...And it goes completely against ALL beliefs that Satanists hold...

Yes, and it's sad. One bad apple can spoil the bunch. Satanists have angsty teens who want to try to scare people because they have no faith in themselves. Which goes completely against the ideas of Satanism.

Same with Christians, they have the whackos who hate Jews, gays and pagans because of what they are, which as far as I know, goes against everything that Jesus taught.

BTW Rayne, that one quote was from urge, not me you turkey!:p

I used to think that Satanists were actually Atheists who got a channel to show their non-belief in God. Its actually good in a way, cuz they are at least following a certain discipline. If something good comes out of it in their chosen paths, alls well that ends well.

Oops...I didn't even notice that:o...All better now

Unfortunantely, most Christians that I have come in contact with, do (and believe) many things that go COMPLETELY against 'what Jesus taught'
Everyone is entitled to believe what they want, and to call themselves whatever they like....But, if a chicken believes he's a duck, something is usually wrong...It's often a matter of ignorance

Its just a question of which way the mirror meanders...

No they arent... it's my way or the highway, bucko. Everyone can call themselves "Sploogie".

So has it been decreed!


I AM ZIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh, wait. No I'm not.



We're Gonna Make Biscuits...
We're GONNA Make Biscuits...
We're Gonna Make Biscuits!

HaHa

WHY is his head so big?
Why IS his head so big?
Why is his HEAD so big?
Why is his head so BIG?

No we aren't, Gir. I NEVER want you to mention biscuits again.

I watched a little bit (maybe 3 or 4 episodes) of Zim this weekend. i have zim on the brain.


Sorry. Keep on with your satan stuff.


Where's my moose?

It is definitely infectious


We should all just become Zimians...The world would be a better (although completely random, mostly senseless) place :D