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H3lt3rSk3lt3r 08-18-2006 01:21 PM

The Decent Rants (Spoilers)
 
Hey guys i saw the Decent a couple of days ago and it was an amazing movie but i have a grip. Wtf is with Juno dieing at the end? come on she didnt deserve it. She killed Beth by accidnet and i guess she thought another crawler was behind her. But come on i wante to kill that blonde bitch my self when i saw what she did to Juno. Juno had alot to live for...she was still young and had her whole life ahead of her.

But the main character ( i forget her name) has gone through many tragic event s including her Husband and daughter getting smoked in a head on collision car wreck. She was proabally gonna end up insane after the whole cave survival thing anyways. But Juno would have had a great life and something really cool to tell her grandkids. but come on she didnt deserve what she got. Anyone else agree?:mad:

dabruce16 08-18-2006 01:32 PM

nope...juno deserved what she got. sure she killed that one chick by mistake, but before she was killing that other chicks marriage, by having an affair with her husband before he got killed with the kid.
juno deserved to die.

horrorobsessed 08-18-2006 01:38 PM

number one rule....

do not get attached to the characters in a horror, unless it's the killer, because they will die. therefore, if you think Jane should live...she will die. simple logic here

H3lt3rSk3lt3r 08-18-2006 01:42 PM

yeah but its no so much that i wanted her to live , i just think it was unfair for her to die like that, getting betrayed by her friend. i just think it was unfair. but then i again i didnt know about the affair part, but that still dosent justify what happened to Juno IMO.

horrorobsessed 08-18-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by H3lt3rSk3lt3r
yeah but its no so much that i wanted to live , i just think it was unfair for her to die like that, getting betrayed by her friend. i just think it was unfair. but then i again i didnt know about the affair part, but that still dosent justify what happened to Juno IMO.

oh, so her friend killed her?

if so i see your point. however my above formula still applies.

H3lt3rSk3lt3r 08-18-2006 01:47 PM

yeah she gets somewhat killed by her friend, because Juno killed the main characters friend earlier in the movie, but by accidnet.

horrorobsessed 08-18-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by H3lt3rSk3lt3r
yeah she gets somewhat killed by her friend, because Juno killed the main characters friend earlier in the movie, but by accidnet.

okay...i get it now.

H3lt3rSk3lt3r 08-18-2006 01:52 PM

yeah its a great film, BTW why havnt you seen it yet!:confused:

crabapple 08-18-2006 03:27 PM

Hmmm...maybe now I don't have to see it!

horrorobsessed 08-18-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by H3lt3rSk3lt3r
yeah its a great film, BTW why havnt you seen it yet!:confused:

just haven't yet, usually i wait to see a movie til it's out on video.

XtRaVa 08-19-2006 01:25 PM

Lmao, its just a movie mate. If you like it so much then surely you could spell it correctly :)

Wow, I'm in an awful mood =/

alkytrio666 08-19-2006 05:07 PM

Actually, I loved the Descent, but I see where you're coming from.

What she did to Juno was unnecessary and flat-out not believable. No one could do that to another person, or at least not someone of her character.

XtRaVa 08-20-2006 04:12 AM

Juno purposely got them trapped down there, without a map. Therefore its her fault everyone got killed.

Also she was having an affair with the main characters husband.

Therefore, Juno deserved a lot more pain and suffering.

alkytrio666 08-20-2006 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by XtRaVa
Juno purposely got them trapped down there, without a map. Therefore its her fault everyone got killed.

Also she was having an affair with the main characters husband.

Therefore, Juno deserved a lot more pain and suffering.

Well, okay, now here's a sane man's opinion:

That chick had to go out of her way to kill Juno, but she didn't just stab her or anything...she punctured her leg and left her to be eaten.

Not only was it an out-of-character thing to do, it was just unnecessary.

But now I'll let you go back to your "kill, kill, kill" train of thought.

dabruce16 08-20-2006 07:44 AM

i dont think it was too out of character for the main character. she just went through a lot. plus she probably thought that juno killed that one girl on purpose. plus the affair could of broke her and she wanted revenge.
i liked what she did.

XtRaVa 08-20-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by alkytrio666
Well, okay, now here's a sane man's opinion:

That chick had to go out of her way to kill Juno, but she didn't just stab her or anything...she punctured her leg and left her to be eaten.

Not only was it an out-of-character thing to do, it was just unnecessary.

But now I'll let you go back to your "kill, kill, kill" train of thought.

WRONG. She punctured her leg yes, but she did that because she deserved it for fucking her husband, and getting all their friends killed because of her insane thrill seek and purposeful sabotage of their cave diving. However, she didnt leave her to be "eaten" she gave her a weapon, and a CHANCE (slim yes, but still a chance) to fight with that weapon for her life.

You know NOTHING about me, I'm perfectly sane thanks. I don't go around murdering people, I just like horror movies, which should feature something along the lines of blood, killing and perhaps people acting out of character.

I'd like to see the person who acted "in" character, after your spouse and child is killed, you learn that your "best" friend was having sex with your spouse. You've gone cave diving and that same "best" friend took them to an un-explored DANGEROUS cave, with NO map, and then all your friends get eaten by strange creatures that are after you too.

alkytrio666 08-20-2006 12:43 PM

Fair enough, you win. I've been thinking about it, and I guess it's justifiable.

Apologies about the sanity remark, I was a little grumpy this morning.

XtRaVa 08-20-2006 12:46 PM

Lol no problem. I'm a bit grumpy at the moment, so sorry if I came off that way too :)

Roderick Usher 08-21-2006 08:30 AM

Re: The Decent Rants (Spoilers)
 
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Originally posted by H3lt3rSk3lt3r
Wtf is with Juno dieing at the end?
You didn't like it when Juno died? You're supposed to feel bad about it- that's the point.

You said you enjoyed the film. It wouldn't have been the same if Juno had lived.

It is just this sort of hyper-sensitive belly-aching that caused the US distributors to change the original ending to make it "happier"

Lame

novakru 08-21-2006 12:52 PM

The thing is....if Jane's husband hadn't been distracted by thinking about his whore Juno in the car-he wouldn't have killed himself and Jane's daughter in the car crash.
When Jane at the end dangled the necklace her husband gave to Juno...I was ROOTING for her to do something and then WHAM! The pick went right into her leg-it was awesome.
You all are men or boys I gather so maybe it would seem odd for Juno to get killed....but for any female who's been betrayed-it was just something we WISH we could do ,once an affair is found out.

XtRaVa 08-21-2006 01:56 PM

Hey, I'm a man thanks :P And I said I was all for it! :)

tarcher80 08-23-2006 05:05 AM

i wouldn't say she deserved to die, but i understand why jane did what she did and in her eyes it was justified. remember, juno had two strikes against her and also jane didn't kill her, she just left her (like juno did w/ the other girl).

novakru 08-23-2006 05:14 AM

True that.
Maybe I should have said "left to die".
I didn't see much chance of her surviving unless the monsters made her into their new 'bitch',since the other and only shown monster female was killed.

...Oh and xtRaVa: I didn't mean that 'you all must be guys' comment as a negative....my point was more about "A woman scorned...." :cool:

Burning in Hell 08-24-2006 09:07 AM

Actually, considering the fact that Juno had betrayed both Sarah's and the group's trust, the mental effects of everything that happened in the caves and especially the fact that Sarah had been on medication for one year but had left her pills back at the cabin, I don't think that Sarah's action towards Juno are this surprising...

novakru 08-24-2006 09:15 AM

Pills...pills...why am I forgetting this?
What kind of pills?
Pain pills and anti-anxiety or anti-depressants would have different affects if she were missing a dose.
and yeah would make a hella difference in how she reacts even being in the midst of a great trama.


Interesting point there Burning In Hell.

Burning in Hell 08-24-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by novakru
Pills...pills...why am I forgetting this?
What kind of pills?
Pain pills and anti-anxiety or anti-depressants would have different affects if she were missing a dose.
and yeah would make a hella difference in how she reacts even being in the midst of a great trama.


Interesting point there Burning In Hell.

Well thank you!

The sort of pills she takes are not mentioned, but since she seems on the brink of depression, they must be anti-depressants. When the group leaves the cabin, the camera lingers a bit on the pills as Sarah leaves them on the desk besides her bed...

novakru 08-24-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Burning in Hell
When the group leaves the cabin, the camera lingers a bit on the pills as Sarah leaves them on the desk besides her bed...
ahhh,now I remember!

Yeah,you're right,most likely anti-depressants.
Which would cause either euphoria in the first 48 hours followed by a crash when the neurons firing off weren't getting the reuptake thingy...or it could cause dangerous suicidal lows but that would usually be after a few days or more...hmm.
But then again, people have all different levels of brain chemistry reacting to different types of meds and how side affects affect them-etc etc.
You could go forever with the many variations on that one.
Makes ya think.

But your point did make me think in a different direction,which makes this movie even more interesting to me because it's added yet another level to a great film.

And also,her name was Sarah?
I have been calling her Jane all this time-lol.


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