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Babygurl20 07-01-2005 11:56 PM

Political Opinion, so bare with me.........
 
This is just my opinion and I wanted to get it out in the open and see if anybody else feels the same way I do. I am so tired of Bush keeping our troops over in Iraq for no reason. We should not be over there at all. They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. Why should we try to help them when it's obvious they don't want it. Bush's first statement before being re elected was that he would not start a draft. What is the first fucking thing he did when he got in office. Started a draft, and whats worse is he sent the reserves in first!!!!
All this war is about is damn oil. We need to pull our troops out and get them back home where they need to be.
And last, but definetly not least. What is up with Americas Security?? Why in the hell did Bush fly Osamas family out of the states??? He should have left them here and let whatever happens happen. I mean, did the people in Florida who were training these suicide bombers not notice that these fuckers didn't want to learn how to land an airplane or learn how to take off??? Something is seriously wrong here, and it really pisses me off. I don't see all the top dollar people out there giving their lives for a cause that has no purpose. They run and hide and send the little men in to do the dirty work.
Well, I'm through...............like I said, that is just my opinion and ya'll are more than welcome to give me your outlooks on the whole situation.

StaggerLee 07-02-2005 02:16 AM

The whole thing is totally absurd. They go there, piss UN and europeans off, destroy everything and then come back whining that we (europeans that is) should help them to rebuild the place. I would laugh, but there's nothing funny about people getting killed every day because one man's lust for oil and world domination. I know it's not that black and white, but that's how many people feel and I think it's more accurate to put the blame on Bush rather than the whole nation, since most of Americans were and are against the war...

yourlastmistake 07-02-2005 02:56 AM

War for oil?:rolleyes:

azathoth777 07-02-2005 07:22 AM

Re: Political Opinion, so bare with me.........
 
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Originally posted by Babygurl20
This is just my opinion and I wanted to get it out in the open and see if anybody else feels the same way I do. I am so tired of Bush keeping our troops over in Iraq for no reason. We should not be over there at all. They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. Why should we try to help them when it's obvious they don't want it. Bush's first statement before being re elected was that he would not start a draft. What is the first fucking thing he did when he got in office. Started a draft, and whats worse is he sent the reserves in first!!!!
All this war is about is damn oil. We need to pull our troops out and get them back home where they need to be.
And last, but definetly not least. What is up with Americas Security?? Why in the hell did Bush fly Osamas family out of the states??? He should have left them here and let whatever happens happen. I mean, did the people in Florida who were training these suicide bombers not notice that these fuckers didn't want to learn how to land an airplane or learn how to take off??? Something is seriously wrong here, and it really pisses me off. I don't see all the top dollar people out there giving their lives for a cause that has no purpose. They run and hide and send the little men in to do the dirty work.
Well, I'm through...............like I said, that is just my opinion and ya'll are more than welcome to give me your outlooks on the whole situation.

I agree in general, but on some points...
They randomly bomb us because they hate the US and want us to leave.
They may torture our troops, but we have not been kind to some of theirs either. It was in the news...
Why help them.... if it wasn't for us they wouldn't be in this mess. And it's mostly small groups of extremist fighting and bombing, not the average Iraqi citizen.
Draft... when did he start that. I knew they were trying(and it was Democrats who introduced the bill, not Bush). As far as I knew it had been shot down.

If you really want to be pissed about Bush and such I suggest you read a book called New Pearl Harbor. It's about Bush, 9/11, the Bin Ladens and more. I may not believe every little detail in it, but still, it's very good.

Babygurl20 07-02-2005 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by azathoth777
I agree in general, but on some points...
They randomly bomb us because they hate the US and want us to leave.
They may torture our troops, but we have not been kind to some of theirs either. It was in the news...
Why help them.... if it wasn't for us they wouldn't be in this mess. And it's mostly small groups of extremist fighting and bombing, not the average Iraqi citizen.
Draft... when did he start that. I knew they were trying(and it was Democrats who introduced the bill, not Bush). As far as I knew it had been shot down.

If you really want to be pissed about Bush and such I suggest you read a book called New Pearl Harbor. It's about Bush, 9/11, the Bin Ladens and more. I may not believe every little detail in it, but still, it's very good.

You only helped to bring my point more truth. If they hate us so much, why is Bush leaving them over there??? Why not get them out and bring them home??? Instead, Bush publically states that he will not be pulling our troops out of Iraq for awhile. We have done everything that needs to be done, and all we can do wasn't good enough. So get our troops out of there since they hate us so much. And it was Osama Bin Ladan responsible for 9/11 but we seem to have just forgotten about him. How hard could it be to find a man with a towel on his head hiding under a rock???

azathoth777 07-02-2005 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
You only helped to bring my point more truth. If they hate us so much, why is Bush leaving them over there??? Why not get them out and bring them home??? Instead, Bush publically states that he will not be pulling our troops out of Iraq for awhile. We have done everything that needs to be done, and all we can do wasn't good enough. So get our troops out of there since they hate us so much. And it was Osama Bin Ladan responsible for 9/11 but we seem to have just forgotten about him. How hard could it be to find a man with a towel on his head hiding under a rock???
Just leave... a country in civil unrest so another Sadam can muscle his way into power. I always thought going to Iraq was a bad idea, and I really would like the troop home, but there are so many other things to consider. Just leaving at this point is as bad as going in the first place.
Find Osama...well you know Iraq was the target from the start. 9/11 and WMDs were convenient excuses.

fannyface 07-02-2005 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. .
http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/

fannyface 07-02-2005 08:30 AM

sorry, it should have been like this:

Babygurl20 07-02-2005 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by fannyface
http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/
I do agree that what THAT GROUP of soldiers did was wrong, but you don't see US soldiers putting beheadings on the internet for everyone to see. One of the rules of war is to not torture your POWs, but Al Queda, or whoever just randomly takes a US citiczen or a citizen of another nation and beheads them on the internet. Now that is breaking the rules of war and that is so fucking wrong to begin with.

The STE 07-02-2005 08:38 AM

well...yeah...but was war ever officially declared, or is this like Vietnam?

Iniquity 07-02-2005 08:45 AM

Things to make you think a little……

1.There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January…. In the fair city of Chicago there were 35 murders in the month of January. That’s just ONE American City, about as deadly as the entire “war torn” country of Iraq.
2.When some claim President Bush shouldn’t have started this war, remember the following…
a.FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us. Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost an average of 112,5000 per year.
b.TRUMAN finished that war and started one with Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.
c.JOHN F. KENNEDY started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson, turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost an average of 5,800 per year.
d.CLINTON went to war with Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden’s head on a platter three times by the Sudan and did nothing. Osama HAS attacked us on multiple occasions.
3.In the 4 years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled the al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
4.The Democrats are complaining about long the war is taking, but…. It took less time to take Iraq that it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.
5.We’ve been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
6.It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to detroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman.


NOTHING is worse for a soldier than to hear his/her own people denounce the cause they are sworn to fight. If you dont agree with the cause, *whatever it may be* put that energy into SUPPORTING those men and women and giving them a reason to want to come back home. Dont judge them for the things they have done, yes there are those that act on their own accord, but more times than not, they are ONLY doing as they were ordered. Trying their best to avoid becoming a statistic. Go to woundedwarriorproject.org if you truly care about them. Support them. THEY WILL NEED IT. Even the ones that come back healthy physically will still have some problems. No One can see the things they have seen and endured the horrors they have endured and not have mental problems to some degree afterwards.

Yes there are those out there that hate Bush, guess what? There isnt a damn thing you can do about it and HE knows it. This is his last term, he doesnt have to worry about re-election. Fix the things you can.

The Pope 07-02-2005 08:50 AM

Yeah. Have fun! :p

bloodrayne 07-02-2005 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by azathoth777
Draft... when did he start that. I knew they were trying(and it was Democrats who introduced the bill, not Bush). As far as I knew it had been shot down.
You are correct...There is/was NO draft...And I highly doubt that there ever WILL be again...

Babygurl20 07-02-2005 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Iniquity
Things to make you think a little……

1.There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January…. In the fair city of Chicago there were 35 murders in the month of January. That’s just ONE American City, about as deadly as the entire “war torn” country of Iraq.
2.When some claim President Bush shouldn’t have started this war, remember the following…
a.FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us. Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost an average of 112,5000 per year.
b.TRUMAN finished that war and started one with Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.
c.JOHN F. KENNEDY started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson, turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost an average of 5,800 per year.
d.CLINTON went to war with Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden’s head on a platter three times by the Sudan and did nothing. Osama HAS attacked us on multiple occasions.
3.In the 4 years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled the al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
4.The Democrats are complaining about long the war is taking, but…. It took less time to take Iraq that it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.
5.We’ve been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
6.It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to detroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman.


NOTHING is worse for a soldier than to hear his/her own people denounce the cause they are sworn to fight. If you dont agree with the cause, *whatever it may be* put that energy into SUPPORTING those men and women and giving them a reason to want to come back home. Dont judge them for the things they have done, yes there are those that act on their own accord, but more times than not, they are ONLY doing as they were ordered. Trying their best to avoid becoming a statistic. Go to woundedwarriorproject.org if you truly care about them. Support them. THEY WILL NEED IT. Even the ones that come back healthy physically will still have some problems. No One can see the things they have seen and endured the horrors they have endured and not have mental problems to some degree afterwards.

Yes there are those out there that hate Bush, guess what? There isnt a damn thing you can do about it and HE knows it. This is his last term, he doesnt have to worry about re-election. Fix the things you can.

You make some really good points. Thanks for such an insightful view. Thanks for the website info to. I intend to go there, and I do intend to do something about this, even if it is only a small deed.

The STE 07-02-2005 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
You are correct...There is/was NO draft...And I highly doubt that there ever WILL be again...
Good, cause if there is then I'm hitchhiking my ass to Canada

Iniquity 07-02-2005 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
You make some really good points. Thanks for such an insightful view. Thanks for the website info to. I intend to go there, and I do intend to do something about this, even if it is only a small deed.
you are quite welcome and you can also go to www.anysoldier.com . this is a website for setting up carepackages for soldiers in the field. most of them cant leave post to aquire the things they need like toilet paper, toothpaste, deodorant etc, and while they have been getting a steady supply of these items the things they really need are things to help them ease their minds. Magazines, DVD's, CD's, CANDY, books, games, *no decks of cards, all of the casino's in the US have made sure they have PLENTY enough of those to go around*, stuff like that.

the flat rate shipping on the boxes is pretty cheap too. you can go to the site and either pick one particular soldier, or just send random ones that can go to anyone *some are there and have no family back home to send them packages*, getting no mail after evening chow is like getting kicked in the nuts, trust me.

ItsAlive75 07-02-2005 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by The STE
Good, cause if there is then I'm hitchhiking my ass to Canada
That's pretty much all you can do... I heard something about America making a deal with Mexico that they would send us back if there was ever a draft... probably bullshit though.

bloodrayne 07-02-2005 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
Bush's first statement before being re elected was that he would not start a draft. What is the first fucking thing he did when he got in office. Started a draft, and whats worse is he sent the reserves in first!!!!

Do you know what the word 'draft' means?...To 'draft' means to call in citizens who have NOT joined the military, in ANY compacity, to fight for their country...It is only implemented when it is decided that the regular military forces are not enough, and we need additional help

This happened in Vietnam...NOT now...

A person who is in the reserves can NOT be drafted, because they HAVE signed up for military duty (on a sort of 'if needed' basis)...Meaning that they, themselves, have agreed to fight if the regular military forces are not enough

Reserves are only called in when it is decided that the military forces are not enough...Therefore, reserves CAN NOT/WOULD NOT be called in FIRST...They are 'extra' forces...

The only people who have been sent into conflict are the people who joined the military...Meaning that they made a vow to fight and protect their country if there was a war...No one FORCED anyone to fight...They made that decision themselves when they joined...

Not trying to argue...Just educate...Opinions should be based on facts...

fannyface 07-02-2005 09:38 AM

I quite agree with you there Bloodrayne and i don't understand that when there's so much unjustice and poverty in the world that people want to send the soldiers cds, dvds and fucking candy!

Iniquity 07-02-2005 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by fannyface
i don't understand that when there's so much unjustice and poverty in the world that people want to send the soldiers cds, dvds and fucking candy!
Because they arent fighting 24/7. They *the people you seem to claim are blind to the hmmmm what the hell, unjustice *injustice* and poverty in the world* are attempting to give the soldiers comfort when it is otherwise, not available. Go serve over there, or anywhere for that matter where the conditions are the same, sleep in holes in the ground, clutching your rifle to your chest, prepared to defend yourself in a moments notice and relax all you want. Until you are there, or in a situation similar, dont knock it.

fannyface 07-02-2005 11:53 AM

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[i] Go serve over there [/B]
I might but I've got a dodgy knee

barbra 07-02-2005 01:18 PM

two words
 
abbie hoffman

azathoth777 07-08-2005 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by ItsAlive75
That's pretty much all you can do... I heard something about America making a deal with Mexico that they would send us back if there was ever a draft... probably bullshit though.
I think Canada may not let you stay either. Vietnam was a one time thing. I think they would not want to interfere. This isn't the 60's and Vietnam wasn't a 'War On Terror'. Many things have changed.

XFeaRX 07-09-2005 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
This is just my opinion and I wanted to get it out in the open and see if anybody else feels the same way I do. I am so tired of Bush keeping our troops over in Iraq for no reason. We should not be over there at all. They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. Why should we try to help them when it's obvious they don't want it. Bush's first statement before being re elected was that he would not start a draft. What is the first fucking thing he did when he got in office. Started a draft, and whats worse is he sent the reserves in first!!!!
All this war is about is damn oil. We need to pull our troops out and get them back home where they need to be.
And last, but definetly not least. What is up with Americas Security?? Why in the hell did Bush fly Osamas family out of the states??? He should have left them here and let whatever happens happen. I mean, did the people in Florida who were training these suicide bombers not notice that these fuckers didn't want to learn how to land an airplane or learn how to take off??? Something is seriously wrong here, and it really pisses me off. I don't see all the top dollar people out there giving their lives for a cause that has no purpose. They run and hide and send the little men in to do the dirty work.
Well, I'm through...............like I said, that is just my opinion and ya'll are more than welcome to give me your outlooks on the whole situation.

Couldnt have regurgitated Fahrenheit 9/11 better myself.

XFeaRX 07-09-2005 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
I do agree that what THAT GROUP of soldiers did was wrong, but you don't see US soldiers putting beheadings on the internet for everyone to see. One of the rules of war is to not torture your POWs, but Al Queda, or whoever just randomly takes a US citiczen or a citizen of another nation and beheads them on the internet. Now that is breaking the rules of war and that is so fucking wrong to begin with.
Only THAT GROUP of Al Quadia (sp?) did the beheadings. Cant judge all of them. US didnt put beheadings on the internet, but where do you think the poster got that pic from?

azathoth777 07-09-2005 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
I do agree that what THAT GROUP of soldiers did was wrong, but you don't see US soldiers putting beheadings on the internet for everyone to see. One of the rules of war is to not torture your POWs, but Al Queda, or whoever just randomly takes a US citiczen or a citizen of another nation and beheads them on the internet. Now that is breaking the rules of war and that is so fucking wrong to begin with.
What you seem to be forgeting is that these people are not an official army. They belong to no government. They are bound by no rules of war. They're fanatics. They don't care what happens. They just want us to leave at any cost.

barbra 07-09-2005 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by azathoth777
They're fanatics.
:confused:


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Haunted 07-09-2005 12:08 PM

Very obssessively commited to their world view and/or religion, so much that they believe to be the only righteous.


Hmmm...sounds like another group I know, save they don't have the fire power.

jay o2 waster 07-09-2005 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by The STE
well...yeah...but was war ever officially declared, or is this like Vietnam?
oooooooooohhh....'SNAP' !!

Vempire 07-09-2005 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Babygurl20
This is just my opinion and I wanted to get it out in the open and see if anybody else feels the same way I do. I am so tired of Bush keeping our troops over in Iraq for no reason. We should not be over there at all. They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. Why should we try to help them when it's obvious they don't want it. Bush's first statement before being re elected was that he would not start a draft. What is the first fucking thing he did when he got in office. Started a draft, and whats worse is he sent the reserves in first!!!!
All this war is about is damn oil. We need to pull our troops out and get them back home where they need to be.
And last, but definetly not least. What is up with Americas Security?? Why in the hell did Bush fly Osamas family out of the states??? He should have left them here and let whatever happens happen. I mean, did the people in Florida who were training these suicide bombers not notice that these fuckers didn't want to learn how to land an airplane or learn how to take off??? Something is seriously wrong here, and it really pisses me off. I don't see all the top dollar people out there giving their lives for a cause that has no purpose. They run and hide and send the little men in to do the dirty work.
Well, I'm through...............like I said, that is just my opinion and ya'll are more than welcome to give me your outlooks on the whole situation.


War is evil. But at times, it can be a NESSESARY EVIL. Had the U.S. forces not intervened in WWII, there's no telling what the final death toll would have been. Moreover, we would most likely still have a very real threat to our civilization in the form of the Third Reich.

I hate people who don't believe in war. So war didn't fix communism, nazism, slavery, and many other things in history?
It didn't gain us freedom from England 230 years ago?

There will always be bloodshed, there will always be strife. . .and there will always be those who, right or wrong, fight to see an end to it.

War is not human nature. It's just NATURE, plain and simple. And none of our advances, sensibilities, or delusions of superiority can ever change that. Like it or not, it's the way of the world. And there is no end in sight.

bloodrayne 07-09-2005 06:11 PM

I wonder how many people realize that if there was no war...There'd be no America...

Elvis_Christ 07-09-2005 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
I wonder how many realize that if there was no war...There'd be no America...
Huh?

bloodrayne 07-09-2005 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Huh?
See?...That's my point...People just don't seem to know...This country was founded through war...That's why you and I just celebrated the Fourth of July ;) ...We had to fight for our freedom, for our independence...



I mean...America would have still been here, of course...but WE wouldn't...

Tat2 07-09-2005 10:31 PM

Regardless of how you feel about war, regardless of your opinion on our presence in Iraq, it is of the utmost impotance that you support our troops now. This is something that personally effects me because I have a Stepson that is in the Army and ships out to Iraq in August. I have two Stepsons that are in Basic Training now and one of them will more than likely ship over there as well.

I have several friends that were in Vietnam and the "reception" that they got when they returned screwed with them more than the actual action of the War.

It's a Soldiers' duty to fight a war, its the U.S. Citizens duty to support the Service Men and Women whole-heartedly before, during and after the war.

bloodrayne 07-09-2005 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Tat2
It's a Soldiers' duty to fight a war, its the U.S. Citizens duty to support the Service Men and Women whole-heartedly before, during and after the war.
That's just about the best/truest thing that I've read in this entire thread....And Iniquity had some DAMNED good stuff ;) :cool:

Iniquity 07-10-2005 05:32 AM

The average age of the Infantryman is 19 years. He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country. He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either. He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away. He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155mm Howitzers.

He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk. He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark. He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher and use either one effectively if he must. He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional. He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march. He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity.

He is self-sufficient. He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle. He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts. If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.

He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands. He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job. He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still find ironic humor in it all. He has seen more suffering and death than he should have in his short lifetime. He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them. He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed.

He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking. In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.

Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom.

Beardless or not, he is not a boy.

He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country FREE for over 200 years.

He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding. He is only doing his JOB. Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his blood, sweat and tears.



The next time you curl up on your bed with the ac cranked up, soft pillow to lay on, stomach is not growling from hunger and right before you fall safely asleep, ask yourself 2 questions………






What is that “kid” doing right now?



Would you have the testicular fortitude and conviction such as he, to put your life on the line, knowing that at any moment an RPG rocket could tear you a new ass, or worse, after all is said and done, he could quite possibly return HOME to the same nightmare as the soldiers of Vietnam branded with names like "baby killer", "murderer"?

Haunted 07-10-2005 05:47 AM

Go! Wow!

How elegant and powerful. Not that it matters, but did you write that, Iniquity? It was beautiful.

I had a friend from college go into Iraq. I sent him with my raven's pendant that I got in Ireland. He wore it too. He's home now, and will not (hopefully) have to go back.

Thanks for writing that, Iniquity. It was really great.

Iniquity 07-10-2005 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by Haunted
Go! Wow!

How elegant and powerful. Not that it matters, but did you write that, Iniquity? It was beautiful.

I had a friend from college go into Iraq. I sent him with my raven's pendant that I got in Ireland. He wore it too. He's home now, and will not (hopefully) have to go back.

Thanks for writing that, Iniquity. It was really great.

While I would love to take credit for it, I did not write it. I do not know the author, but they could'nt possibly have their eyes more wide open to see such things so vividly and be able to express them into words so powerful.

The only part I added at the end was the questions.

Haunted 07-10-2005 09:53 AM

Well, thanks for sharing it, all the same. It was a really powerful read.:)

bloodrayne 07-10-2005 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Haunted
Well, thanks for sharing it, all the same. It was a really powerful read.:)
I have to agree...That was excellent...As well as insightful


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