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Idea Shortage
Anyone as sick as I am of American remakes of old of foreign horror films? Can we not think of a decent plot for ourselves -.-. If I see another Japanese horror cinema rip off I'll scream. Don't get me wrong, some of the remakes are good...but have we no pride...?
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the beverly hillbillies, starsky and hutch, the flinstones, the dukes of hazard, ... oh shit i could go on for hours .....
these films are made or are being made and you're upset about american film versions of japanese horror movies .. of course there is no pride in the US popular film industry .. just big $$$ in the eyes. by the way .. its not like its a new tradition .. foreign films have been a source of inspiration for as long as i can remember ... So now the horror films are being mined .. oh well, how else are the lowest common denominator sad sacks going to get exposure to the foreign films anyway when they wont watch anything with subtitles - let alone letterboxed or black and white. |
guess you're looking forward to the "dark water" remake then......
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no, i'm waiting for Troublesome Night 1 through 47 to be remade :)
actually i do have Dark Water but havent been able to see it yet .. is it really getting the USA treatment ? how about The Eye or The Occupant |
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Only Jap. movie Ive seen, and I gauntee it would be totally ruined Btw.... Beverly Hillbilies? Ive heared of/seen the others....but not this...this...Sacrilage!!! |
When I mean remakes I mean everything, old and or foreign movies and shows included. It all pisses me off. And last I heard Tom Cruise's production company or whoever the hell works over or under him bought the rights to the Eye. As for Dark Water...-.-...please say it ain't so T-T.
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in many cases i dont feel too bad about it ..
I usually know when its a horror ... we usually ferret out horrors from all over the world because we dont have much to pick from compared to the other genres. What i like about remakes as far as drama, etc goes is that once i find out its a remake i usually hunt down the origional .. a film i otherwise may have not known existed. |
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Tom Cruises Production Company holds the rights to The Eye. Dark water has already been remade and should be released in 2005 Dark Water Remake |
When they remake Ichi the Killer I'm gonna take a cue from Boiling Point and driving a tanker into the production company. You can take away my Ring, you can ruin my Dark Water, but you can never take my Takashi Miike!...at least I hope they can't...
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Miike would most probably not transfer well at all ... I was watching Gozu just the other day, great movie, Visitor Q is still my favourite though!
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There seems to be a shortage of good Horror movies since the 70's and early 80's.....Think about it....How many sequels are there? Sure, there's something to be said about taking a good idea and running with it, but there comes a point where it's time for something new.......
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the reason you don't see many new ideas is because the producers wont see anyone unless they have been through some sort of film/film production school. where they are pumped so full of the same old ideas and formulas that all original thought that they once had is totaly squashed. sure its important for these people to get educated about the film industry. but there are so many schools an so many people trying to get into these schools that they have turned into nothing more than a money making production line. where some failed hack pumps their student heads full of his ideas of what a good movie is about.
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Ichi the Killer wouldn't translate. Period. Not saying it wouldn't translate well, it would not translate at all. Even the name wouldn't work.
A lot of Miike just wouldn't work. Audition wouldn't work because one of the biggest things was the contrast in the girl between the first 90-ish minutes and the last 30. The girl would NOT be that meek if the movie were American. The movie would pretty much fall apart. Hippie censorship groups aside, Visitor Q MIGHT could work, but it would be toned down anyways, and then the point of the movie is gone. So no. Miike won't be remade, mostly because most of his stuff can't be remade. |
i have some sweet ideas for movies but havent been to a film school YET.....August baby i hope to get on that shit lol
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just dont forget us little people ;) esp ME!! :D lol
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trust me baby as soon as i get to Cali we are going out to eat lol....and BTW thanks for not answering last night I told you i'd call back
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Idea shortage: Worst remake ever!
Following on from what SHADE started. Is it any different now to what it was like in the 80's. There were some great films made in the 80's in Italy & America but the ideas soon ran dry & all we got were slasher films & a lot of poor zombie & cannibal films ( hell of the living dead/ zombie creeping flesh anyone?)
Anyway WORST REMAKE: it's not horror but the film was fucking horrible. SYLVESTER STALLONE in GET CARTER. Just loved that happy ending guys. |
i did like to see Mickey Rourke getting work though ..
i thought (speaking of michael caine) that The italian Job remake was a piece of shit too |
An Audition remake? Agh. I honestly hope you're wrong though I'm afraid you might not be -.-. If you're going to make a remake at least give do the original story justice and follow the story. Don't try to make the movie better only to come up short instead.
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hey, if my shit ever gets published or made into movies, you will see a ton of original shit. Okay, well, Father Dillon's Funeral was a NOTLD remake, btu cmon, every horror author has to do at least 1 zombie survival story. |
there arent enough zombie survival movies !
I'd like to see one come out a week. of course I'd have to build another wall unit in the house somewhere ... |
I'll get to work. :D
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well, i guess its me but i refuse to consider either of those vile mounds of puke to be zombie movies. I was hoping for films from people who love the genre, not the ones who draw inspiration from video games ... and dumb down their films to appeal to the little basement dwellers that play them 18 hours a day ... God dont get me started on House of the Dead .. shit ! piss ! |
Unfortunately i actually bought it. Any one want a copy?
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RE (the first) wasnt TOO terrible.... It is a guilty pleasure of mine... But it could be so much better.
I derive a great deal of inspiration from video games, but i have some talent and insight to back it up. Read what i have so far of Gloom, it was inspired by Quake, with some Doom in there. |
one day i'll watch it....just not in a rush
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But dont video games draw their inspiration from movies ? |
It's a vicious cycle. You can tell which ones inspire which ones.
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I have never played any of the RE games, but i have seen enough that the major disappointment in the first movie was that it had zombies, zombie dogs, and the licker, that is it. If you are going to make a movie out of a video game, use more than 2% of the monsters.....
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I have to give the RE movies credit. I like them more than the games. The games fail to keep my attention >.>;;. Now Silent Hill on the other hand...not hoping it will become a movie...but should it become a bad one I might have something to bitch about then.
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hmmm silent hill scared the piss out of me it was just creepy
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Asian horror
What's your opinion on asian horror? And Hollywood remake's?
I prefere the original |
I think you're gonna get largely the same response across the board here, man...most people are very much behind the originals...I assume you're referring mainly about the "ghost" kinda films that have been under remake mania, as opposed to all kinds of asian horror, so, lets talk about how I feel about those thus far.
The ring for example...a lot of people actually liked the US remake...but when compared, I found that while the USA version had more mood enducing music, and gorier effects...the "silence" of the original, the minimalist use of "gore" by comparison (eg - the bodies just looked more terrified than fucked up) worked to excellent effect for me. The asian version felt more tense all the way through, not to mention, explained the story a lot better. I haven't seen the original ju-on myself, but apart from some interesting effects, and the fact that it got quite good about 5 minutes before it just ended....I didn't think all that much good about....but, I cannot speak comparatively in this case, so I'll leave it alone. I think the US film makers rely on different methods to establish atmosphere...and, unfortunately when remaking these asian films, they have not really thus far captured what's made them the weird-out unnerving creepfests that they are. Closest I've EVER seen to the "feel" of an asian horror would be Lynch's Eraserhead...maybe he should work on one of these remakes, eh? I don't hate US remakes or anything...however, I've yet to find one that has outdone it's asian predecessor. Dark water looks promising, however, I've not seen the original. While talking asian films, here's a few I like - Uzumaki Battle Royale Mister Vampire Tales of the unusual Versus The Returner ...Not all horror, but all worth checking out if you've not yet. Oh yeah, hi, welcome...all that shit. |
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