do you guys think zombies should be able to use guns?
 

me and my friend have a dilemma, it would appear that our views differ on whether or not zombies can use guns (day of the dead, and new "land of the dead" spawned this) i say no, and thats why i say day of the dead was definitely the worst in the trilogy. zombies cant use guns, its totally imbalanced with them firing an effin machine gun AND having countless, countless others in the pack of zombies, its not fair, the only thing humans have against zombies is guns, we USED to have the ability to run, but sadly newer movies (28 days later, DAWN remake) stole that away from us too... so i ask you, whats next? zombie vehicles, zombies that can fly? running was bad enough, so i say HELL NO! zombies can't use guns!

Um....... "fair"?

Bub sould be able to use a gun. Bub's ability to use a gun was symbolic of hope. Frankenstien hoped that he could train zombies using memories of their past, and Bub using the gun showed that it was possible. Which shows that there is hope for the human race.

As far as Land of the Dead zombies using guns, I have mixed emotions. rom what I have read, the zombies have begun to evolve, and become more inteligent. This makes weaponry the natural progression. However, the idea of a zombie with a machine gun makes me chuckle....so I dunno.

But Bub most certanly needs his gun:)

look, zombie movies are like a game, where each race gets different advantages, zombies have numbers and we have guns... give one to the other and it throws EVERYTHING out of whack

Zombies shouldnt have guns, Bub was the exception scince he was in the army n all and benn worked on by Frankenstien.

Zombie hordes have never been fair... I don't think guns will make much of a difference for them... and although they're smarter in Land of the Dead... I think they'll still be dumb as dirt...

Re: do you guys think zombies should be able to use guns?
 

"What's wrong with you people?Their fucking dead!!"

...aside from bub,the idea of zombies using weapons really pisses me off.bub and his actions were essential to the story but definitley a "one trick pony" for the zombie world.

They should really continue in traditional zombie fashion... dribbling, groaning, eating and falling to bits easily, nothing more, but since Romero is on the case with Land, I think we should attempt to make exceptions to the norm... It's been many years since we began seeing zombie films, and maybe seeing some of Romero's zombies evolve a bit may not be all bad. I do have exceptions though, last years remake with running zombies was way over the top, they shouldn't run, although I did enjoy dotd2k4.

we've already seen bub learn to use a gun, buy either copying what he saw the doc do, or through learning, I'm more inclined to believe in the first theory rather than the latter, as zombie brains would lack learning ability imo in such a short space of time.

However, going back to Romero's Land, I think it's been long enough to see some evolution in their capabilities, so long as it's not overdone and see sniping zombies on rooftops. Basic gun use would be acceptable imo.

no guns ... but they should be able to comb their hair and apply a little makeup ...

i mean for crying out loud - some of these things have really let themselves go !

If you are going off what the Official Zombie Survival Guide says, then the answer is no. Zombies can't use guns. They are dead and their one and only objective is to obtain food. If Bub was a "real" zombie (By real, I just mean if he was as they describe zombies in that book.) then he wouldn't have been able to use the gun. Instead, he would have just been chomping savagely at the air towards the doctor and any other living being that came near.

While they couldn't "really" talk, the brain craving zombies from the Return of the Living Dead movies are actually closer to what Zombie Survival Guide describes than Bub is.

No ability to think or reason at all. Just the sole goal of eating meat. That's it.

A zombie could not figure out how to shoot a gun, nor would he even attempt or want to. (In my opinion and the Zombie Survival Guide's.)

It's up to the person telling the story.

Watch Dawn of the Dead 04 with the commentary on. They basically chose to let the zombies run and be more agile because it had not been done before.


and 28 Days Later didnt have a single zombie in it, so it doesnt count. :p

Who the hell says there's "rules"?! If a zombie can hold a gun and fire it, I say let 'em have it, it'll make the movie more interesting. I can just picture a zombie movie some of your ways:

Zombie picks up gun off floor and slowly points it at human

Human: No you can't use that! It's just not FAIR! It's against the "rules".

Zombie puts down gun and allows human to pick it up and shoot a hole right the fuck through the back of it's head, while it moans and grunts like it's "supposed" to do

What i get a kick out of is how the title of this thread sounds more like a human rights discussuion than onbe about the possibilities of movie and book monsters.

"I have a dream.... That one day... Little dead boys and little dead girls... Can carry armaments...."

someone obviously hasnt read the zombie survival guide.... and yeah, thats exaclty what my movie would be like... and here's what your movie would be like:

a ragged group of survivors gets trapped in a mall or office building, or an average suburban home, only to be blown the fuck away by a zombie made nuclear device... yeah, thats totally cool and you sure are right, it did add to the 20 minuites of film before the zombies destroyed the world with their massive armada of tanks, bombers, and submarines...

now i'm all for change, honest i am, but giving a zombie a gun, is like letting vampires walk outside in the daylight, when eating a garlic pizza and praying to a huge ass cross, i just dont think it should be done

yeah but still, call me old fashioned but zombies should stagger in an unstoppable group, it adds suspense, and makes it more scary

Oh yah...I forgot that one man's fictional opinion on a fictional topic is 100% right.:rolleyes:

touche'

Yes.

Zombies should get flare guns or harpoon guns... y'know, shitty guns that don't do a lot.

THAT'LL even things out.

You know I don't really have an opinion on this subject. But the idea of a super fast zombie with a harpoon gun amuses me for some reason. :D

And since I am amused, I think they should all get harpoon guns....:p

If it's by accident then it would be exceptable but for them to purposely grip,aim and fire a weapon at someone is ridiculous(with the exception of bub who learned from observing the action of the doctor) considering they're mindless and only follow the instinct to eat, but It's been proven 3 times over that Romero knows what he's doing when it comes to zombie films so if he says they can evolve and use guns who the hell am I to tell the guy who made Night of the Living Dead otherwise.

Thats kind of what i was thinking. Like it or not, he is the reason we have canniballistic hordes of zombies as a genre.

Look folks, running zombies are nothing new OK? there was running zombies that existed before on film before " 28 Days Later" and " Dawn of the Dead" ( 2004), there was Umberto Lenzi's "Nightmare City" ( a.k.a. City of the Walking Dead, Incubo Sulla Citta Contamina) that was the beginning of the running zombies but not only did the mutant cruddy faced zombies in that movie ran but they also weild weapons like machine guns, suck blood like vampires and also drove cars. There was even " Return of the Living Dead 1 & 3", " Lifeforce" ( not much of a true vampire flick but more of a zombie and alien flick), "Zombi 3", " Dead Heat ( 1988)" and " The Stuff" that had zombies that ran fast too!

Anyone seen those movies especially Nightmare City? if not, then you must see them to see that zombies that run and weild weapons existed before.

Good points, gelf, but for the most part, the average horror.com forum member is a "Romeroesque" traditionalist. We like our zombies slow, stupid, and predictable.

I gotta tell ya, it is bizarre to think of Romero zombie fans as "traditionalists," but it's true.

This whole running zombie thing, though, I think it is a degeneration of the horror genre, overall. Faster must be scarier, right? and since we're in a hurry, we can't very well wait for a zombie to grab someone; might as well speed up the process.

Remember that "mummies" used to be the same way. Generally they were slow too, and what was scary about them was that if they were after you they NEVER stopped; they just kept on keeping on, so to speak.

is it ok if they drive cars ?

bumper cars perhaps.



and how many more peole are going to include 28days as a zombie film :rolleyes:

.

I don't think zombies, should be able to use guns, although if they found one lying around and picked it up im sure they could fire it.... they'd probably just end up putting a bullet in their own skull though

Uuugh, has anyone here even seen Nightmare City? or any of those running zombies i mentioned like Lifeforce, Zombi 3, Return of the Living Dead 1 & 3 and The Stuff?

this guy has !

this guy too ..

no we haven't seen it and co-incidentally we are not talking about the very same film elsewhere on the forum

Same here, i am not and didnt.. oh christ forget it....

I never saw the whole movie, just a bit on a pretty good compilation called Terror on Tape. It looked like they had dried oatmeal on their faces.

that should get an award for the most inane post ever ...

a big trophy with a picture of Modestas on it

I have not been this tired in ages and still standing...


i need to go to bed pretty much when i get home.

i'm suprised i'm as awake as i am ... 4 hours sleep last night - 2 less than normal .. and i dont drink coffee ..

thing is if i go to sleep before 11:00 tonight i'll wake up in 6 hours screwing myself for tomorrow too ..

almost the weekend my friend, hang tight :)

it's only Wednesday.