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avenger00soul 11-15-2003 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by NirvanaNole
Ah okay. Damn the Internet. It always creates miscommunication! lol

1. HBK has never been known as a tough guy in real life. Nash, and others, have saved his ass in documented fights in the industry when fights occur in bars. I love Shawn more than any wrestler (before his new version) ever, but he isn't exactly a bad ass.

2. Flair had to be saved in fights regarding jealous competitors many times in the NWA and early WCW. He'll never be confused with a true bad ass real life fighter in the industry.

3. This whole "wuss" verse "bad ass fighter" definition really depends on our measuring stick. Perhaps we should clarify that before sticking wrestlers into certain categories. I was using certain wrestlers against others in the industry. If we mean them in all out fights against regular people like us, or against the regular Joe in tough man contests, that is a much lower standard than in the league of most other wrestlers and true real life bad asses that compete in world martial arts competitions.

See, that's all I wanted to know. I've never heard about these bar fights. I see where you are coming from now. Did you see what I meant about O'haire though?

NirvanaNole 11-15-2003 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by avenger00soul
See, that's all I wanted to know. I've never heard about these bar fights. I see where you are coming from now. Did you see what I meant about O'haire though?
O'Haire looks like a bad ass, but I've never heard anything regarding him in real life fights. Over the years, I've noticed looks can be deceiving. In ECW you wouldn't believe who was the biggest bad ass in the ENTIRE organization. It was Tommy Rich (think that was his FBI name). He was in the FBI and had curly hair. He looks like a pussy, but he beat the shit out of any ECW fighter that messed with him, and when he was in the WWF and WCW (long before ECW) he beat the hell out of several wrestlers. I would have never guessed him as a bad ass, but even Taz and Saturn would stay away from him when he was drunk in ECW. Now THAT is some "bad ass" respect. :eek:

NirvanaNole 11-15-2003 06:19 PM

Hell, now that I think about it, I think Rich was the old guy. Who was the curly haird guy that tagged with Guito (sp?) alot? That is who I mean. I can't think of his name. I think Rich may have been the old guy that never wrestled now that I think about it.

avenger00soul 11-15-2003 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by NirvanaNole
Hell, now that I think about it, I think Rich was the old guy. Who was the curly haird guy that tagged with Guito (sp?) alot? That is who I mean. I can't think of his name. I think Rich may have been the old guy that never wrestled now that I think about it.
Tracy Smothers???

NirvanaNole 11-15-2003 06:29 PM

That's him!!!!!! That guy supposedly beat the hell out of any wrestler he ever fought. You wouldn't believe it looking at him, but apparantly he kicked everyone else's ass in fights. I just crack up picturing him and knowing all those big guys were scared of him. LMFAO!!!!!!

avenger00soul 11-15-2003 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by NirvanaNole
That's him!!!!!! That guy supposedly beat the hell out of any wrestler he ever fought. You wouldn't believe it looking at him, but apparantly he kicked everyone else's ass in fights. I just crack up picturing him and knowing all those big guys were scared of him. LMFAO!!!!!!
That's awesome. I totally saw Sabu throw his ass through a table in Georgetown. Someone also threw a coke and hit him in the head. The security guys thought it was my friends and I (we were the only college students there). Glad ole Tracy didn't think it was us.:(

FreddyFan 11-15-2003 06:36 PM

I'd like to say something regarding Austin kicking Nash and Hall's ass at Wrestlemaini X8.

1. It's not real.
2. Austin may have won the match but he got his ass kicked badly. He was acting like such a pussy in that match it isn't funny.
That is all. Oh, I would also like to say that Mark henry annoys me. They say he's the world's strongest man. Sure maybe he won the competition one year but thats one fuckin year. men win that thing every year. So he can't say he's the world's strondest man.

NirvanaNole 11-15-2003 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by avenger00soul
That's awesome. I totally saw Sabu throw his ass through a table in Georgetown. Someone also threw a coke and hit him in the head. The security guys thought it was my friends and I (we were the only college students there). Glad ole Tracy didn't think it was us.:(
Yeah, that is probably a good thing. Although, I'm sure he was used to it. The sad thing is, judging by his looks, that would be a wrestler I'd talk shit to. As it turns out, that would be one of the last wrestlers I'd want to do that to. Thank God I was never drunk and in that position. I wouldn't have fared too well against that guy. :(

"One more thing: I used the tough man thing generically. I didn't mean just boxing matches. O’Haire has gone undefeated in shootfighting tournaments, kickboxing and boxing matches. I should have specified that. I think he is a certifiable badass."

Okay, I went back and found that quote. I have no idea about any of O'Haire's fighting background. If he has been in many shootfighting tournaments and done that, I wouldn't want to piss off that roided up beast! lol
:eek:

AUSTIN316426808 11-16-2003 04:18 AM

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TOUGH AS IN TOTAL FIGHTING ABILITY OR TOUGH AS IN HOW MUCH PAIN HE CAN TAKE. CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ASNSWER THE QUESTION TILL I UNDERSTAND IT.

avenger00soul 11-16-2003 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TOUGH AS IN TOTAL FIGHTING ABILITY OR TOUGH AS IN HOW MUCH PAIN HE CAN TAKE. CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ASNSWER THE QUESTION TILL I UNDERSTAND IT.
Well judging from the huge-ass conversation myself and NirvanaNole had :D I would just say answer with who you think is a total badass (fighting ability and intelligence, and tolerance of pain and determination...and whatever else makes a good fighter). I'm still saying O'haire and Angle but I think he convinced my to drop Goldberg.


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