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urgeok 11-04-2006 04:49 AM

oh yeah - and tell Dustin we're still discussing it because we are bound by the restrictions of the physical limitations of an internet forum board.

if we were all in a pub somewhere talking - it'd be done by now -

its a lot faster for people to talk, listen to the other persons response - add to your own point - repeat.

its a much slower process in here :)

bloodrayne 11-04-2006 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 502423)
i think there comes a time when people arent going to be considered sexy .. its physical and mental.. not everyone - but i'm sure that becomes a part of the majority peoples past at one point.

But...What about love?...If you love someone, don't you always want them, no matter what?...Isn't it that love that keeps the attraction going?...

Think of it this way...If a person gets wrinkled or fat, you would no longer consider them sexy or attractive...But, how is it any different than if they were in a fire or car wreck and were disfigured?...Wouldn't you still love them?...Wouldn't you still want them and be attracted to them BECAUSE of the person that they STILL are, no matter what, inside...Where it really counts?...I honestly won't care if Dustin gets wrinkled...and I ALREADY made him fat...lol...It seriously hasn't changed one ounce of his sexiness...It's in his voice...It's in his eyes...It's in his manner...It's in the way he holds me, treats me, loves me...And he's absolutely AMAZING in bed (I know that's TMI, but it's relevant to my point), and isn't 'sex' what 'sexy' is all about?...I can't imagine him losing his skill, his tenderness (when I need that), his roughness (when I need that), his willingness and eagerness to try anything...It has nothing to do with the way he looks...It has so much more to do with the way he looks AT ME...And I honestly can't imagine that changing


OH...And I never gave a SHIT about money...Otherwise, Dustin and I would have never hooked up in the first place...lol

bloodrayne 11-04-2006 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 502427)
oh yeah - and tell Dustin we're still discussing it because we are bound by the restrictions of the physical limitations of an internet forum board.

if we were all in a pub somewhere talking - it'd be done by now -

its a lot faster for people to talk, listen to the other persons response - add to your own point - repeat.

its a much slower process in here :)

Damn...Isn't THAT the truth? :)

noctuary 11-04-2006 04:57 AM

For what it's worth, I never thought this was a gay issue. Transvestism does not equal homosexuality. Entity2000 mentioned the thing with the kids, which I thought was worthy of addressing in my earlier post.

And of course I would support my children no matter what. I certainly didn't intend to imply otherwise. I would just be afraid for them. Having to deal with constant prejudice is not easy. Thing have progressed immensely in this regard but I don't think that anyone can argue that ignorance and gay-bashing don't still exist.

Just wanted to clear things up a bit.

urgeok 11-04-2006 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 502429)
But...What about love?...If you love someone, don't you always want them, no matter what?...Isn't it that love that keeps the attraction going?...

Think of it this way...If a person gets wrinkled or fat, you would no longer consider them sexy or attractive...But, how is it any different than if they were in a fire or car wreck and were disfigured?...Wouldn't you still love them?...Wouldn't you still want them and be attracted to them BECAUSE of the person that they STILL are, no matter what, inside...Where it really counts?...I honestly won't care if Dustin gets wrinkled...and I ALREADY made him fat...lol...It seriously hasn't changed one ounce of his sexiness...It's in his voice...It's in his eyes...It's in his manner...It's in the way he holds me, treats me, loves me...And he's absolutely AMAZING in bed (I know that's TMI, but it's relevant to my point), and isn't 'sex' what 'sexy' is all about?...I can't imagine him losing his skill, his tenderness (when I need that), his roughness (when I need that), his willingness and eagerness to try anything...It has nothing to do with the way he looks...It has so much more to do with the way he looks AT ME...And I honestly can't imagine that changing


OH...And I never gave a SHIT about money...Otherwise, Dustin and I would have never hooked up in the first place...lol


he may lose his energy - and the thought of rebreaking that hip that got shattered on that fall on the ice back in 2020 might become a concern too ..


as far as the accident disfigurement example... i dunno ..and i hope i never have to find out for a variety of reasons..

urgeok 11-04-2006 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by noctuary (Post 502431)
For what it's worth, I never thought this was a gay issue. Transvestism does not equal homosexuality. Entity2000 mentioned the thing with the kids, which I thought was worthy of addressing in my earlier post.

And of course I would support my children no matter what. I certainly didn't intend to imply otherwise. I would just be afraid for them. Having to deal with constant prejudice is not easy. Thing have progressed immensely in this regard but I don't think that anyone can argue that ignorance and gay-bashing don't still exist.

Just wanted to clear things up a bit.

its understandable - but depending on where you live - things have come a long way.
(legal gay marriages in canada)

noctuary 11-04-2006 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 502434)
its understandable - but depending on where you live - things have come a long way.
(legal gay marriages in canada)

I know, and I wish that folks in the States could follow the example that the Canadians set. Unfortunately, that may not happen for some time, if ever. There are many places in this country that are still very conservative and religious.

bloodrayne 11-04-2006 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 502432)
he may lose his energy - and the thought of rebreaking that hip that got shattered on that fall on the ice back in 2020 might become a concern too ....

That IS definitely something to consider...But, by that time, do people still think about sex so much?...HaHa...I just got a hilarious mental image...lol


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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 502432)
as far as the accident disfigurement example... i dunno ..and i hope i never have to find out for a variety of reasons..

I honestly believe that you'd still love your wife no matter what...

And...Love keeps the fire burning...Even if we get too old to stoke the flame very high...Smoldering can be nice at times, too...Still warm, and comforting...A soft glow at twilight has just as many rewards as a blazing fire in the evening :)

urgeok 11-04-2006 05:08 AM

i think the sex drive diminishes for most people as they get a lot older ..
i imagine the better shape you keep yourself in - the longer you'll have it.

remember not everyone has a strong sex drive when they arent young ..
the more vibrant you are in your youth - the longer you'll be able to sustain - (health issues may impact that ..)

but dont assume because you, me and a few others that are vocal about it have strong drives - that everyone else does ..(hard to imagine - i know)

if you never had a strong sex drive - you certainly wont at all when you're older

pinkfloyd45769 11-04-2006 05:37 AM

I gyuess its hard for me to have an much of an opinion on this, unless it was an issue with someone i know.Thinking about some stranger doing this i could care less,if my brother was to do this i think i'd be a little less open-minded.


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