wow...you must know a lot about GOD...and the ways of god and almost EVERYTHING ABOUT GOD!!! yeah, you must really love god...and gore and telling nerds to get the fuck off a forum...thats what i dont understand a lot about people. they are very much aware of how god is kind and loving and forgiving, and how jesus is perfect. yet, they dont even TRYYYYY to be that way.. in fact they make rather strong attempts to be the exact opposite.

just because one indulges in watching horror movies doesnt make them a sinner.

Lol. I see you responded to this thread before looking at your mayo one...

Don't feel bad. I flame anything I think is lame. It's nothing personal. Some of my favorite people on here have gotten flamed by me at one time or another for saying/doing something stupid. I said your thread sucks, because it does. The nerd thing is supposed to be funny, which it is. Don't take it so personal, damn! You don't even know me, why the hell do you care if I called you a nerd for posting a thread to determine people's thoughts on mayo?

Now to answer this reply of yours... I don't know anything about God. I've never met him. I do know quite a bit about the different religions of the world, however, and when I am speaking on those threads, I usually point out which religion's standpoint I am expressing. I never claimed to be perfect and I not only like gore, I love it! Does that make me a bad person? I don't think so. Why? Because cheesy gore in horror films is not real. It's entertainment. Does it make me a hypocrite? Not really. I never made any claims to righteous and if you read through some of my posts you will find that watching gore and telling nerds to get the fuck out are the least of my worries.

You need to take a chill pill because you seem to be taking getting called a nerd waaaay too seriously. (And by the way, you started a fucking thread about mayo... You are a nerd.)

;)

LFBO, that is great.

i don't care if i get called a nerd...hell, i know i am one. It's just that i don't really like people who acts one way and does another, who says one thing and does another. What i'm saying is, i don't like hypocrites. you come off a little holier-than-thou, and when you posted that up, it wasn't just you are a nerd or something like that, it was way beyond that. honestly, practice what you preach. "nerd get the fuck off the forum." you're just kidding? right...

I just reread my posts, considering the fact that you called me a hypocrite. But, I don't believe I made any false generalizations and tried to pass them off as truth. Those generalizations that I did make (while in a pissed-off mood, mind you) were introduced with the words: "It seems to me", thus showing the comment as my subjective opinion and not fact. But, if you find a quote of mine that you believe to be a false generalization, please point it out to me. If I agree that you are right, I will apologize and edit my post.

Stingy, God is NOT on a power trip. He created us as faithful followers, but allowed us to fall, so that we could HAVE the choice to follow him, and yes you're right, he is a VERY jealious God. He only wants us to worship HIM, not other gods or material items (ie: money).

Also in God's eye/mind (which I'll never understand myself) there is no such thing as a decent person. To God, a person who tells a little white lie is just as evil as a murderer. His judgement scale is far different than ours. The only way to get into heaven is to be PERFECT. Of which I am certainly not. God provided me away to get there, by providing his son, Jesus (who was both man and God, and there by the ONLY PERFECT human) to pay the punishment for our sins -'for the wages of sin is death'

Mormons and Witnesses are not Christians, so they're information is way wrong!

This Guy is Going to Be Waiting for a While
 

i know this is my third post in a row, with no responses in between. But I just had to post this...

That picture is funny :)

I always got a kick out of the bumper sticker that says "I found Jesus. he is in my trunk."

Happy C- funny picture

Everyone else- Can't we all agree to disagree. Everybody knows there will be those people that will debate(argue) their point till the last breath in their body. There's not sense in getting all bitched up about it. Although it is really entertaining to read some of the posts...

Mormons aren't Christians? When did this happen? I thought the only thing you needed to believe in order to be termed a "Christian" is that there is one, true God who gave his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, so that he may die for our sins and grant us the opportunity to enter into heaven. The Mormons believe this ... how are they not Christian?

nv. : I don't mind agreeing to disagree, but where's the fun in that? My only problem is that I take what people post here as sincere representation of their thoughts and feelings -- and so, perhaps I take them too seriously. And I do tend to get defensive and argumentative, but that's just my debate style (as Bloodrayne knows.) :) It's all in good fun.

P.S.: Unless you're talking about that dude's girlfriend who acted as if this thread was about to end her life as she knew it. That was a little too crazy.

That's cool Stingy....your posts are most entertaining...:D

mormons and witnesses arent christian.. relaly?

actually u must be right sincei spoke with the witness and she said 'we are true christians' and i talked to several mormons and can ya believe it, they also said 'we are true christians'

theni talked to just a regular old christian girl and she said 'nuh uh, WE are the true christians'

so basically.. SOMEBODY is lieing to me....

and stingys posts are quite entertaining!!

baby your thread has turned into a fucking religious debate....ITS DRIVING ME NUTS. can we possibly get rid of it already.

there is no god, now everyone....SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Oh okay. Because you said so... :rolleyes:


1- Your 'baby' can't delete it. Only a moderator can.

2- Please shut up. If you can't handle a real debate, then simply do not come to this thread. (I know your 'baby' started it and you think that somehow gives you and him some degree of authority over it, but that's not the case.) But, as you said, it has turned into a religious debate, so if you don't like it, stop coming to it and crying about it.

3- Maybe you would find the mayo thread more suitable to your intellect.



****Now, to address some of the other issues that have come up since I was last on.****



3- Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian. Mormons are Christian too.

4- Of course Stingy's posts are entertaining! (Even though I often find myself on the opposite end of the debate from him,) I still enjoy reading his posts. They are articulate, witty, and he makes a lot of good points the provoke thought.

5- That mayo fella really took it personally that I posted a pic saying 'Nerds are encouraged to get the fuck out!" Hey mayo, post a worthwhile thread and I won't do it to ya again! You seem like you might be far too sensitive for this forum, but we'll have to see if you stick around. (If some of the legitimate assholes were still around, they'd probably have you in tears by now. You should be happy that the worst you've been called is nerd.)



P.S. I don't ever really intend to come off as 'high and mighty'. When I say this is what Catholicism thinks, I am not even saying that I'm Catholic, I'm just saying that's what they think. I am a sinner in almost every aspect of the word, so please don't assume I am scolding or judging anyone on here. I am not.

Speaking of well-spoken witty and articulate, even though i dont always agree... :)

Good post bwind. Although i liked the mayo post. it made me hungry.

Exactly what do you have against my mayonnaise thread? Who are you to talk about 'worthwhile threads' when just a few pages back you have threads about 'Bruce Lee vs. an Angry chimp' and all of those other "worthwhile" online quizzes?

I've gotten into this type of debate so many times with friends...its a very touchy topic.

My views...

1. I'm with Stingy...I would love to believe in God but find it hard to believe any of it.

2. If God is real, my theory is that he is an alien. Won't get into explaining why...that would take forever. It would explain a lot of history though.

3. My opinion of Heaven and Hell?? Earth is Hell. If you can live a good life here...you die and go to Heaven. If not...you die and just get reincarnated.

4. To add to my alien theory....maybe the earth and all that is on it is just an experiment. Hence why aliens(supposedly) abduct people and test them.


These are just my opinions. Until the truth is known...the debates will continue.

Hahaha! Now there's a good post!

You make a very valid point. I can see you've done your homework. I've been known to post stupid threads too, the difference being that I don't get insulted if someone calls it stupid. I know they're stupid, that's why I post them, and that's what makes them funny. Feel free to flame my completely stupid and pointless threads at will. (Not only can I dish it out, but I can take it too. Plus, the Bruce Lee vs. Angry Chimp thread could use a bump right about now.)

P.S. I'm more of a dork than a nerd, but I'm sure just about everyone on this board falls into the general category of 'dorky nerds'. I haven't seen too many football jocks on here.

P.S.S. You're alright in my book, mayo.

Some intersting theories in there. I would like to hear you elaborate on the alien one a bit more, but the Hell on Earth one is a pretty unique idea.

Some points to ponder....

1. In Egypt...they believed their God lived behind the sun.
Alien??

2. The Inca's drew pictures of( what we would call) spaceships and made landing strips.

Interesting. My mom was telling me that in Iceland they are very serious about their belief in Trolls. They claim that they have been seen to look like humans only smaller.........and many cattle and sheep have completely gone missing at times..........no carcass of any kind left at all.............she thinks these were aliens they were seeing. Iceland also has a very unusual landscape! NASA used it for practice moon landings apparently!

Something in every culture about that it seems!

well it "seems to me that when some people say "it seems to me" its just a subjective opinion yet when .......lets say a christian
says "it seems to me " like i did there for example. its means i'm a ignorant right wing judgemental christian who is making a evil generalization.

you think thats weird the sun god of egypt was called ra. and the south pacfic islanders word for sun was also ra

I pray to i Jah :)

"blasphemy.....blaspha-you......blaspha-everybody in the room"

wufong: actually, I was referring to this quote, since it is the one that originally caused me to make my post about why most atheists are atheists.

But, you're right wu. Here I claim to make a reference to your other post that you quoted. I admit I got the two mixed up and simply used the last thing I remembered you saying. I apologize for that.

If God created us, then who created God?

i think he/she simply congealed somewhere.... :D

This is actually a valid question that I have never heard adequately answered. In my experiences with having religious debates, I have oftentimes come across the argument that the universe, and life itself, is so complex and precise that it could not have just formed on it's own. It had to have an intelligent maker. For example, if you were walking along the beach and suddenly came across a watch, you would know instantly that such a device had to be made by someone ... not just formed together on its' own.

To this argument I point out the error that, according to people who use this argument, god is actually more complex and precise than we, or the universe He created. He is so complex, in fact, that we human beings can barely comprehend him. And yet, such a being is free from needing a creator. Which is a self-defeating point for the argument of design. How can one argue that complex, ordered things like the universe must have a creator, and then say, two seconds later, that complex things like god do not? You've just shown that not all things that are complex and precise need a creator. So why must you arbitrarily assign this requirement to the universe, and not to god? Could not the universe have "always been"?

that question will drive a man crazy. Ive spent night thinking that question

What if there was no beginning and no end....it just always has been there only in different forms.....No time....only illusion......No birth and no death.....illusion only...........everything just is......and is not at the same time. How can a creator exist when there never was a beginning. We then are all part of it all...........existing.........always dancing in different forms........

i think its all been done and were just being played over and over until we get it right

Simple but profound........Stephan Hawking would be proud! :)

Think......2001 ..............I think Clarke was right there!

Didnt like 2001 and never read any of hawkings stuff but would like to

Very poetic, Nine9! :) There is an argument that stems from the Big Bang Theory that says that the universe may be in a perpetual state of Big Bangs and what are known as Big Crunches. For example, once this universe has expanded to a certain size, it may begin to collapse back on itself (thus, the Big Crunch). The pressure of such a collapse will cause yet another Big Bang, and the universe will expand again ... only to crunch again, then expand, then crunch. It may be that this cycle has been going on since the beginning of time (if not before), and our existence is just one in an endless cycle of bangs and crunches. But, I think it has recently been determined (and I mean as recent as within the past two years, because I remember hearing it on the radio) that the universe will not crunch on itself, but will come to rest when it's expansion has slowed to a halt. Which is good news, I suppose! Although, I don't think we'll be around when that happens. The sun will burn out (thus, causing it to expand and engulf Earth and its surrounding planets before fizzling out) long before the crunch happens.

I am afraid there is life after the darkness.

Nicely phrased....i've often pondered this one myself...