That was the original christmas episode (if you dont count "The Spirit of Christmas" short)


I apparently missed the coming out party. Did someone come out of the closet in the past couple of weeks? I would search but this site's search engine sucks and i dont want to wade through 3000 threads on movies people hate, and the 30 or so started 4 years ago by trolls who didnt like me ;)

Here you go, Vod: http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38936

thank you :)

Its really a non issue to me. What I find amazing is that there are people who are actually still "in the closet" and that anyone cares one way or the other. its almost 2009, we have bigger problems and concerns than who people are sexually attracted to.


What I dont understand in any way shape or form:
the opposition to gay marriage. nothing says "I desperately want to impose my belief system on others" more than openly opposing gay marriage.

Agreed, Olbermann's commentary on Prop8 was amazing. If you haven't seen it, go google it. Truer words... etc etc.

I hate it when you go to a gay bar because it's the only place still open and every guy want's to fuck you....

just relax and enjoy the free drinks

Dont feel too bad. if its the only place open, then everyone there is sloshed and they want to fuck you because you have a pulse. I'm sure they wouldnt be interested in you sober.



Feel better? :)

Relax??!!!

That's just what they're waiting for you to do! THEN they ask you to bend over. :eek:

Haha i dont think they'll ask you to do that in the bar but just dont get a ride from anyone ;)

Yeh, sure that's why you go in there. :rolleyes: :p

Or you just want to stop the spread of a disease...

HIV cases increase in places where gay marriage is allowed.

Or you support a traditional family unit regardless of religion. Neither candidate supported gay marriage this go around (although they both supported full rights for same-sex couples).

There's never been a candidate who supports gay marriage...Not even Hillary...She's for civil unions, too.

Ha, in the gay thread

That might be true, but I'd have thought otherwise...

Yes, you would think that if people were married they would be monogamous and would be less likely to spread a disease...Then again, perhaps it relates to the area in which people are more open to the gay lifestyle (which would be why gay marriage was accepted) and in the area in general AIDS cases are higher because homosexuals are more likely to contract AIDS...Could be purely regional demographics

Cite your sources.

Know what that made me think of? The fact that apparently STDs are rampant amongst the elderly. They sit around their retirement homes and just get it on. Maybe in order to decrease the spread of HIV and other STDs we should just ban the elderly.

You can also look up the fact that homosexuals tend to cheat more often... maybe it's because they're not afforded the "luxury" of a committed marriage. Anyway, let em' get married or not I personally could care less.

"Since homosexual marriage became “legal” the rates of HIV / AIDS have gone up considerably in Massachusetts."

"A study in the journal AIDS reported that in Holland, where “gay marriage” has been legal since 2001, HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are soaring among homosexual men. The study notes that “partnered” homosexuals have “outside” lovers, although fewer than the “unpartnered,” and that men in these relationships are still contracting the AIDS virus at alarming rates."

I understand it and will now explain it. (My understanding and explanation should not be mistaken for agreement though.) ;)

The majority of the country is Christian. Marriage is a sacrament. The Christian definition of marriage is that it is a union between a man & woman vowing to God to spend their life together.

Where we, as a country, went completely wrong was that we forgot about keeping church seperate from state and began giving married couples special privelages that others don't get. So now Marriage has a legal definition as well as a Christian one. That is where we erred.

The Christians are against gay marriage because it infringes on their definition of marriage. The gays are for it simply because they want the same rights a married couple receives from the government.

This whole fiasco could have been avoided if marriage had just been left a religious term to begin with. Instead, the legal system could have called religious marriage a civil union and then granted special rights and privelages to civil unions, gay or straight, religious or secular.

*shrug*

Seems obvious, but because our government already fucked it up. I don't see how they can fix it now, aside from just calling marriage a civil union in legal terms and granting all current marital rights to all civil unions.

Basically, the religious folks want to protect the meaning of one of their sacraments. The gay people just want equal treatment. It's all caught up in the verbage being used though, which is pretty ridiculous to me.

HIV is not a gay disease. Places where gay marriage is allowed have other people in them, who are straight and/or drug users. There is still a lot of people transmitting the disease through intravenous drug use and heterosexual sex.

I don't think that's reason enough to ban gay marriage. Yes, Gay men are more likely to get HIV. But that doesn't mean they cause it. HIV doesn't choose who it goes for. It can happen to anyone and so if Gay people can't get married for that reason, anybody with HIV can't get married. Anybody with any Sexually Transmitted Disease Can't get married. But from there, it would get worse. Maybe they can't have any sexual relationships. Maybe no intimacy, in case it develops to sex. I'm not saying you would feel that way, but if you make one law like that, it would have to continue going to be fair.

Also, yes, Gay men cheat. But even then, most will not sleep around all the time. And most who are married will just stay with their partners. They may occasionally sleep with one or two people, as a straight person might. But if they're not committed at all, they are going to sleep with even more different people.

Why is it that gay men are more likely to get HIV?I've really never had a full understanding of that.

This is going from what I was told a few years ago, so it is likely to be wrong.


It think it's something to do with the virus being in greater numbers around the Anus.

I think you're along the way to being right there.
From what I've read, It's not about concentration of the virus around any particular areas in the body it's about anal sex producing more friction and resulting in more tiny "cuts" forming on the parts that have contact - this happens with vaginal sex too, but less so...but yknow, fuck a person unprotected when they have AIDS, the two are among the highest risk.

But yknow...AIDS is only ever born out off stupidity or ignorance, sometimes both.
Either you don't know the person you're choosing to sleep with unprotected half as well as you ought to, or you're a goddamn needle sharing junkie fool.

I think you summed it up rather accurately. That's my biggest argument against banning gay marriage. The fact that we have the 'right' to are own religious beliefs and yet we still have laws enforced that are based on christian beliefs. It's all fucked.

The Gay thread turns into the aids thread... didn't it all begin with a monkey...

This thread is getting a little bit ridicurus..

AIDS is a gay disease so it's logical that the conversation would head in this direction.

"The Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center has abandoned a long-held homosexual activist contention by declaring on billboards posted throughout Southern California that HIV/AIDS is a “gay disease.”

According to a report by the Los Angeles Times, the Center is trying to address rapidly increasing HIV infection rates among the homosexual population by rallying the gay community to increasing vigilance against exposure to the disease. Activists for the homosexual lifestyle have, until this current development, strongly, and sometimes vehemently refused to admit that the disease is predominantly generated among homosexual men.

The ad campaign, which is also running in magazines, is in part a response to the findings of public health officials, who have noted that three out of four cases of HIV infections are found in men who engage in homosexual activity, the United Press International reported.

In 2005 US health officials reported an alarming eight percent increase in HIV infection rates in one year alone among homosexual and bisexual men. The Center for Disease Control also warned that a survey of 15-29 year old men who engaged in homosexual activity “reported that the proportion of unrecognized HIV infection was as high as 77 %.”

A report by the Public Health Agency of Canada, released in August 2006, revealed a sharp increase in HIV/AIDS infections, with 51 percent of infections found in men engaging in homosexual activity."

Wow, as if there weren't enough ignorant people in the world. I can't escape it anywhere I go.

Did you think going on the net was actually one of the better escapes...?

good point I guess.

To think there's still a school of thought out there that considers Aids a "gay" disease is simply mind boggling. In the early 80s, when the disease first started getting a lot of media attention, true, it was mainly in the gay and intravenous needle communities but twenty years later, there's little doubt that it affects everyone; young, old, gay, straight, man, woman, druggies, blood transfusion recipients. Anyone that's sexually active is at risk now, as well as paramedics, nurses, police, anyone injecting anything with used needles and even people receiving blood transfusions (although quite rare). Regardless of how or where it's origin lies or what demographics it affected first, it certainly affects (or could affect) everybody now. Calling it a "gay" disease leads to the assumption that one can't catch it by having heterosexual sex, which is completely false.

thank you

these people are killing me, about to put me in hush mode. I'm growing tired of arguing.

I have no hush mode. It's impossible for me to sit here silent when I see something that is just blatantly wrong. ;)

Incidently, my lack of hush mode is costing me points left and right in the HDC Idol competition. Just ask neverending. :D

awesome. I'm just tired of there being so many ignorant people and every time I voice my opinion I don't have any back up, just more b.s

The world is full of ignorant people I'm afraid. They far outnumber the non-ignorant. I'd say by a ratio of at least 2-1, but probably more like 3 or 4-1 in my experience.

That being said, I don't think Despare is necessarily ignorant. He was quoting an article.

*yawn*

I suppose people missed the whole fact that "The Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center" was the one now saying it's a "gay disease" and not me. Proving once again that most people are indeed fucktards.


Wow, once again someONE gets it...

http://i35.tinypic.com/9zq97l.gif

I'm all about gay pride!

whatev.


p.s sky blue is banned? haha

Got banned did he?
I never saw a great problem with him other than the fact the only stuff he posted was...well, more at home in an under 18's forum...I tried to mention he might be a bit more productive, he had a go...don't know what he did aside from that, but can't say I'll shed too much a tear.

Looks like he lost his voice again.

what happened?

good job mods.

thanks for making the effort to keep the forum retard-free. :)