Hmmmm... different stroked for different blokes I guess... I'd like to see your top ten favorite horror films list... but I can't promise not to make fun...

1,2 Michael's coming for you.3,4 Your totally fucked........the end.

You know what if you don't like it, stop watching horror. :)

Halloween is one of the best horror movies out there in my opinion.

Also, if you like the way the music is played, check out Phantasm.

I just saw PHANTASM a few days ago. It was a pretty good one.

Hahahaha... :D

Halloween question...Necrophillia...
 

Don't know if I spelled that right but anyways... *Spoiler alert

Just got done watching Halloween and I noticed that Myers dragged 2 or 3 dead corpses (of women) out of sight and then the scene was over. Example: In the asylum after Myers goes berserk he drags the female guard's body away... what for? He does the same thing a few more times.

Each time Myers would drag a female body away me and my friend just gave eachother this look like ... wtf is he going to do with that!

Sorry if this post seems stupid or immature but I just don't get why he dragged those bodies (the prison guards especially) away. Did he have sex with them? :eek:

no
he's too emotionally stunted to be sexually active

It's called "Covering your tracks." Serial Killer handbook, chapter one.:D

I dont know rob zobies got athing for necrophilla in his movies so maybe

yeah thats the great thing bout film...... its all down to the viewers own interpretation....... id like to think he was covering his tracks too

You guys need to check out the uncut rod zombie halloween totally diff from the cinema version . The uncut version for example gave reasons for his killing and he let the mexican guard go . I guess the producers just wanted to make him a bad ass which i think is wrong as they humanised in the first half .

So you're saying he did have sex off-camera, with the bodies?

No but he showed more of a human side and killed more people etc for a reason.

BWHAHAHA-off camera...Mexican Guard...oh lordy!

Halloween 666 "The Producers Cut"
 

IMO - Part 6 is the best of the sequels with the exception of part 2.
Has anyone watched "The Producers Cut"?
Is it worth buying?

Link to DVD........http://www.fleshwoundvideo.com/H666.html

Well, i thought the whole curse of thorn thing was a bit silly, but if you look, certain moments in halloween 5 do show the symbol. Anyway, the producers cut ending gave more to the curse storyline and made it a lot more supernatural. It also made the same mistake as halloween 5 and rzh by giving michael an inch of sympathy. But it did have some good points. I wasn't keen on either of the endings but I did like the return of tommy and Loomis was given a slightly bigger role in the producers cut. I'd say buy it, but make your own conlusions.

This is actually the only version I have, so I can't really elaborate. Just keep in mind that the quality changes drastically during the movie.

Halloween (1978) Question?
 

:confused: Does anybody here know the complete list of revenues and costs for the theatrical release of Halloween (1978).

I know that the total gross was about $47,000,000, and that the production budget was $325,000 - $20,000 of it going to Donald Pleasence. But does anyone happen to have access to more detailed numbers regarding distribution expenses and production fees. If so, I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Thanks.

I believe the Special Edition DVD I have has all the costs, fees, etc...but I'm too lazy to go watch it for that.

Michael Myers kill list and your hopes for the future of the Halloween series...
 

*SPOILERS for all movies*

Yes, I know kill lists for famous horror icons are all over the 'Net, but I've always wanted to do one for myself, and I wanted it to be accurate (most of the lists seem to have different counts). If there are any contestations one would like to make to my list, feel free. For those who find such things uninteresting, I have another, more conversation-inducing question at the bottom of the post. Note: I plan to do similar lists with the Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street series (complete with Freddy's Nightmares) once I get the DVDs.

Michael Myers Kill List

Timeline 1: H1, H2, H4, H5, CoMM
Timeline 2: H3
Timeline 3: H1, H2, H2O, H:R
Timeline 4: RZH

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Halloween [Television Version] (1978)
Judith Myers - Died at 6:00
Phelps Garage truck driver - Seen dead at 26:26
A dog - Found dead at 47:02
Lester (dog) - Died at 54:10
Annie Brackett - Died at 1:04:22
Bob - Died at 1:15:54
Lynda - Died at 1:18:11
Count: 5 people, 2 dogs

Halloween II (1981)
Alice - Died at 12:22
Mr. Garrett - Died at 40:02
Budd - Died at 50:43
Karen Baley - Died at 52:21
Dr. Mixter - Found dead at 57:09
Janet Newhall- Died at 57:43
Veronica Alves - Found dead at 1:05:39
Jill Franco - Died at 1:08:58
The marshal - Died at 1:20:43
Count: 9 people

Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1982)
No kills (only seen in stock footage)
Count: 0

Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988)
3 unknown people - Retconned to death at 3:25
J. Black - Died at 6:43
L. Evans and 2 ambulance drivers - Partially seen dead at 17:02
Penney's mechanic - Died at 18:37
Penney's waitress - Found dead at 20:40
Sunday (dog) - Found dead at 40:56
Bucky - Died at 42:22
Pierce - Found dead at 47:40
At least 2 other policemen - Implied dead at 49:03
Deputy Logan - Found dead at 1:04:15
Kelly Meeker - Died at 1:04:31
Brady - Died at 1:07:57
Al and another hillbilly - Died at 1:18:33
A hillbilly - Died at 1:18:40
Earl - Died at 1:18:51
Count: 20 people (17 during the movie), 1 dog

Halloween 5 (1989)
The hermit - Died at 8:29
Rachel Carruthers - Died at 20:58
The OTHER Michael - Died at 38:40
Spitz - Died at 59:45
Samantha - Died at 1:00:09
2 policemen - Found dead at 1:02:52
Tina - Died at 1:07:11
4 policemen - Implied dead at 1:12:42
Eddy Hale - Died at 1:15:06
Charlie Bloch - Died at 1:19:58
At least 1 person - Seen dead at 1:20:06
Max (dog) - Found dead at 1:25:42
Count: 15 people, 1 dog

Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995)
A nurse - Died at 5:21
The trucker - Died at 6:39
Jamie Lloyd - Died at 19:26
Debra Strode - Died at 38:48
John Strode - Died at 52:44
Barry Simms - Died at 55:29
Tim Strode - Died at 59:50
Beth - Died at 1:00:47
A patient - Died at 1:12:14
A hospital employee - Died at 1:17:11
A person - Died at 1:17:13
Another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:20
Yet another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:30
Still another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:32
The director hates hospitals - Seen dead at 1:17:33
You get the idea - Seen dead at 1:17:34
Enough, already! - Died at 1:17:36
Another patient - Died at 1:18:33
Dr. Samuel Loomis - Implied dead at 1:24:44
Count: 19 people

Halloween H2O: Twenty Years Later (1998)
Jimmy - Found dead at 7:31
Allegre - Found dead at 7:43
Marion Wittington - Died at 8:46
Charlie - Found dead at 59:13
Sarah - Died at 1:01:08
Will Brennon - Died at 1:06:48
Count: 6 people

Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
Franklin - Died at 8:37
Willie - Died at 10:04
Laurie Strode - Died at 15:01
One nurse from Halloween II - Retconned back to life at 16:01
Two students from Halloween H2O - Retconned to death at 16:10
Charley - Died at 30:23
Bill - Died at 45:26
At least 3 rats - Found dead at 56:40
Another rat - Found dead at 57:12
Yet another rat - Found mortally wounded at 57:14
Donna - Died at 58:41
Jen - Died at 1:03:47
Jim - Died at 1:05:00
Rudy - Died at 1:07:06
Nora - Found dead at 1:17:05
The pathologist - Implied dead at 1:25:11
Count: 12 people (10 during the movie), 5 rats

Halloween [Unrated Director's Cut] (2007)
Elvis (rat) - Pronounced dead at 3:42
A cat - Seen dead at 7:19
A dog - Seen dead at 7:34
Another cat - Seen dead at 7:38
The bully - Died at 11:26
Ronnie White - Died at 18:58
Steven Haley - Died at 20:46
Judith Myers - Died at 23:56
A nurse - Died at 37:20
Noel - Died at 45:47
Kendall - Died at 46:03
Gloria - Seen dead at 47:02
A guard - Seen dead at 48:18
Another guard - Seen dead at 48:22
Max Ismael - Died at 49:35
Joe Grizzley - Died at 53:29
A coyote - Found dead at 1:07:36
Bob - Died at 1:11:34
Lynda - Died at 1:13:13
Mason Strode - Died at 1:15:50
Cynthia Strode - Died at 1:16:55
Paul - Died at 1:27:00
A policeman - Died at 1:35:00
Another policeman - Died at 1:35:15
Count: 19 people, 2 cats, 1 rat, 1 dog, 1 coyote

Timeline 1 Count: 68 people, 4 dogs
Timeline 2 Count: No kills
Timeline 3 Count: 32 people, 2 dogs, 5 rats
Timeline 4 Count: 19 people, 2 cats, 1 rat, 1 dog, 1 coyote
Grand Total: 105 people, 6 rats, 5 dogs, 2 cats, 1 coyote

The surgery room slaughter in CoMM was a nightmare to figure out, what with the damn-near-blinding strobe effect and all. There may well have been more kills in that scene (and you can argue that at least two more are implied), but those were all I could make out. Quite frankly, the whole scene was unnecessary.

Anyway, my question (it's in the poll) is: which existing timeline (if any) would you like the inevitable next movie in the series to follow?

how about an option of "No more Michael Myers, please"

That's where my vote is going.

That would be option 2: Pick up after Season of the Witch. Just out of curiosity, though, why no more Michael? Are you too hung up on Freddy and Jason?

I am sick to death of Michael, Freddy, Jason, Pinhead, Candyman and all the other 80's/90's shit. I don't want to see another HALLOWEEN movie. I didn't think RZs version was as bad as it could have been, but that's hardly an endorsement you'd want to put on the DVD box.

The original films are great. The second and sometimes even third installment of a franchise can be okay, but endless sequels cheapen the product and it's ability to thrill.

Fresh ideas are out there, but they get pushed aside in favor of remakes and sequels and I sick of it. If you love Micheal, maybe you should try out one of the new takes on the 80s slasher flick like HATCHET or BEHIND THE MASK: THE RISE OF LESLIE VERNON - and leave the past in the past.

Christ, but these crazy fucks are the foundations of what horror is, they are classics how could you get sick of them!

Yes, they are our boogeymen, but when they are done to death, we learn to care less. Fred Krueger used to be scary. Now he's as comical as, well, FredDY Krueger. There is no point to keep reviving characters.

When I want to see them , I put on the original. I probably watch HALLOWEEN (JC's not RZ's) at least once a month.

But Freddy, Jason, Micheal, etc. are far from the foundations of horror. They aren't even the founding fathers of horror film - that's for Nosferatu, Frankenstein's, Der Golem etc.

Horror goes back to the cave dwellers. Fear is the most primal emotion. Horror tales are as old as written language. The Ballad of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, The Odyssey - all packed with monsters and murderers.

Horror goes back a little further than 1980. I understand liking these guys, but man has more things to fear than these four or five boogeymen and I'd like to hear some new stories.

I love Michael Myers and the Halloween franchise and I will continue to watch them and also other franchises. Crap sequels are a part of the horror genre. I would love to see what they do next no matter the route they take(as long as it takes place on earth).

How about, no more, for any of them. In fact, let's burn all the sequels that killed the original. (except Halloween 2 and Friday 2+3)

I didn't think Halloween 3, and Friday The 13th 4 were that bad. The Hellraiser series didn't die completely until the fourth film, in my opinion. Pumpkinheads sequels did nothing for it. Same for the Nightmare On Elm St. franchise. Jeepers Creepers 2 was awful. Chucky 2 was pretty good I thought...

My two cents worth, and I now leave you all to your bickering.

I always enjoy seeing Michael Myers, but that's beside the point. The sequels haven't been that great (I liked 2 and 4), I know that Rob Zombie's version is a bad movie, but I still enjoy watching it, if that makes any sense. I'd rather see the Halloween films stop, unless it's something completely, and I mean COMPLETELY different.

But since we're discussing other slasher franchises in this topic, I'll add in my opinion on that. The only movie in the entire Friday The 13th series I like is part 6. A Nightmare On Elm Street is one of my favorite movies, I also enjoyed New Nightmare quite a bit. Don't really care for Hellraise or Candyman. The only series I like every installment of is Child's Play (Part 3 just for the garbage truck scene). Just seems like Chucky grows a bit more each installment so it seems like each sequel has something new to say and the focus has shifted from the protagonist to the antagonist as the series went on. That's all I have to say about that.

I forgot Candyman. I liked the first two. The third one was a bit far fetched and seemed to get away from the story.

I just love sequels!! I used to hate every slasher not called Michael Myers when I was younger since everybody always used Jason or Freddy when referring to a killer or something. I love the Nightmare sequels probly most. All of them. Loved the Friday Sequels ecxept for VII which is despise and X which I despise even more(except for the virtual camping scene) Hellraiser is badass I agree alot of people hated the third one but I think it just as good. Pumpkinhead 2 was always my favorite of the two. The poor little boy and the bloody tentacles or whatever when that guy got his head ripped off...sorry

Michael Myers on a plane!

It wouldn't surprise me.

I am impressed with the allusion to Gilgamesh... It's not too often that we see him cited with the other legendary and classical heroes...

But anyway.

I'm here with Rod. I'm not a huge fan of horror sequels... The only horror sequels that I actually enjoyed were "28 Weeks Later" and "Aliens," and they certainly diverge from the kind of serial memisis that these Boogeymen Big Bad flicks seem to fall into. I think that to make a successful sequel, you have to BUILD from the original (Aliens, for example, built from the first by adding the Queen and the alien nesting ground... 28 Weeks Later takes place in quarantined London), but most of the above simply just take the Boogeyman and give them new stomping grounds and victims.

I love Halloween. It's my favorite scary movie. But I haven't seen a successful sequel to it. I chose, if I had to "To Choose a New Sequel Path." I might consider remaking the second film (I thought it was a BIG mistake to make it more gory and less suspenseful... and I'm not sure if we REALLY needed the Strode backstory). I honestly like the concept of the victim waking up and being in danger immediately. Too often do we see victims swept away and then we never follow their fate... I like that concept, but I would make it better. I love Mike Myers. I could do with another good film. So I would remake #2 (a decision I have made and stuck with over YEARS now).

But Rod's right. I'd LOVE to see new Boogeyman.

Honestly, I thought that Jeepers Creepers was incredibly underrated and successful.

Scream was well-constructed for what it was (a DEconstructionist film that functioned as a decent slasher).


I wasn't as big a fan of BEHIND THE MASK and HATCHET as Rod was, though... I feel as though they could have been so, SO much better (Mask was so incredibly smart - VERY smart... but it ultimately failed as a horror film and Hatchet was good gore, but not much else).

BUT

I recognize them for trying to create new stories and mythos. I would like to see more. HOLLYWOOD - STOP CHURNING OUT BAD ASIAN HORROR REMAKES.

Definitely true. I appreciated the new Halloween because of my weariness with 80s horror canon icons. New stories definitely need to be told, although Freddy, Jason and Michael Myers have worked because they do hit on something primal. Jason and Michael Myers are embodiments of death that cannot be rationalized or comprehended. They are the Black Annis,the Breathstealer, the Wendigo. That being said, it grows tiresome because they must be rationalized. There is no potential terminus, no potential solution and no real movement but towards rationalizing, explaining, uncovering and negating something that thrives on mystery. New slasher franchises like the Saw films (in spite of being torture porn/ slasher hybrids with no supernatural elements) aren't really the solution but a repetition of the same issues. A new approach is needed or else we'll be stuck with the tired slasher icons of yesteryear. Why? Because you can't kill or rationalize your way out of the Michael Myers/ Jason cultural dialogue any more than we can bribe AIDS or scare infant mortality away. More nuance is necessary. What is ACTUALLY scary? Digging deeper is necessary. Faceless death is not the be-all and end-all of fear, in fact its primal to the point of being simplistic. I'm not standing behind the new horror writers who write stories about a guy whose lamp is broken or whose girlfriend might be cheating and calling it horror, I'm just saying that some things are really deep down shit-your-pants horrifying about life nowadays and they ain't the Wendigo, the Manticore or the frumious Bandersnatch, nor are they retarded people with farm tools. I agree that if a child is handicapped and the victim of abuse they should not be given farm tools to play with and have their homes torn apart by reckless teenagers. Child abuse is bad, farm tools are sharp and teenagers can be jerks. I feel sorry for anybody who needs to learn these particular rudiments of life. All in all, horror can be better if we dig deeper and are more honest. The secret to great horror has always been honesty. Look at Pet Semetery. The Wendigo and the Monkey's Paw come together with brutal honesty to make something the hits us where we live. Look at the face of Emil Jannings in Murnau' s Faust. What we once thought of as hoary and Medieval becomes visceral, real and disgusting. This is what we need to be afraid of in ourselves, this is what we give into if we compromise our ethics. Honesty, intimacy and transgression are necessary for the genre to go anywhere. Hockey masks have no place in the equation.

WOW.....Bravo that was really inciteful

Halloween 6
 

Am I the only one who thinks this film is creepy and atmospheric? I haven't seen this one since its original release. I remember walking away from this film thinking how well done it was; then, I heard only negative things about it from critics and fans alike. I think I'll rent it tonight and rewatch it with my horror snob, critic's hat on. I would really like as many opinions on this film as possible; don't hold back. If you hate it ,give me your best vitriolic rants. Actually, I enjoy negative reviews more than positive. Some vituperations against againt a hated film drip with sarcasm and passion. I often find the passion and style in negative reviews very amusing. Lord knows, I may check back in here with a negative review of my own. PAX VOBISCUM!