I hate sequels of films that are made only for money...h20...ressurection.....

LMAO

Dustin Hoffman is awesome


haha im telling you loomis if he was in it h20 wouldnt have sucked.....h8 was just bad, good thing i love myers.

h20 wouldnt be bad if the mask didnbt suck

LOL LOL LOL LOl Classic when you said I hate sequels if they are made just for money Thats the dummest thing I have seen you type. All movies sequels or otherwise are made to make money. No studio is going to make a movie then let people see it for free.
Let me clue you in on something the reason any movie studio will make a sequel is if the 1st movie is good enough to warrent making a 2nd movie and as long as the movies make money for the studio the studio will keep making those movies because thats what the public likes. If the movies dont make money the studio will stop making those movies. You saying you hate sequels just because for the money they generate is really dumb. Look at Pinewood studios they make James Bond movies and they make them for the money. Its called Show business.

The Halloween series is based on the thorn curse, the series will end once Myers kills Jamie Lee Curtis...which will probably never happen...:rolleyes:

Here is what I think about any movie character Franchize after a while if you keep making the same type of movie the public will get tired of watching the same thing rehasshed over and over again. That will kill a franchize so the way to keep a franchize going is to reinvent the series and retell the story and make a new series about the character. The only 2 movie studios in the world that have the longest running movie series about a character are Pinewood studios in London who make the 007 movies. The reason Bond is still popular with fans is because over the decades Pinewood has had diffrent actor play the role keeping the series fresh. The other studio that has the longest running movie series is Toho studios they make Godzilla movies and have done so for 50 years. In that 50 years Toho made 3 diffrent Godzilla movie series and retold the story of Godzilla 3 diffrent ways keeping him fresh and still popular. I think this is what will happen with Jason Myers and Freddy if they ar to surive in horror movies.

He did in h8. She isn't coming back for h9 I'm positive.

The opening to Halloween: Ressurection was great! It had some really weird creepy atomosphere and Mikey finally kills Jamie Lee! Great stuff.......
I think most of the franchises have done themselves to death but I think there is still a bit of life left in Elm St. Wes Craven's New Nightmare and Freddy Vs Jason were very fucking cool strong entries in the series that rivial the original. But at the rate the studios are going they'll probably remake Halloween, Elm St, and F13 and start the whole sequel overkill again for another generation. I'm glad there are so maby sequels its kinda funny to see the ridicoulous ideas people actually make (Jason X had me laughing my ass off!) and I'd rather watch Jason, Freddy, Myers, Leatherface in a 10000000 shitty sequels than sit thru a James Bond or Godzilla movie.

YESS I agree 1000 percent

Glad someone does!

They DO NOT rival the original....hogwash!

5 best horror films
 

the exorcist
the evil dead
the thing
friday the thirteenth
from dusk till dawn

Well Elvis you dont have to sit and watch a James Bond or Godzilla movie which is fine by me. On the other hand I doubt if Jason Myers or Freddy will ever have a fanbase that even comes close to that of bond and Godzilla. I know you might want to cover your ears or close your eyes rather then know how large the fanbase is for Bond and Godzilla. I can tell you this much for fact there are at least twice as many Godzilla fans than there Starwar fans in the world. If you look at horror movie history you can see right away one of the main reasons Frankenstien Dracula Werewolf Mummy have survived decade after decade is because better remakes were made about them. Anyone who says remakes arnt a good thing and that only the original movie is the best is dead wrong and probley a fool.

Just everything you seem to say most of the time makes me laugh Gojira.

It has almost been 30 years since Myers has been around.

You say they prolly won't last but if you think about it.

How do you know? You don't not until people will say damn these movies suck I don't like them anymore.

If people want to watch a fake ass lookin monster destroy somethin then let em.

If people want to keep watchina British agent stop nuclear warfare/mad evil villains over and over again let em.

Myers, Freddy, Jason, Leatherface will always be around b/c ppl love them thats the bottom line.

You're probably right - Jerry Springer won't seem to piss off, either.

Sloooow down there Gojira.

How can you compare Godzilla's fanbase to that of Freddy/Micheal/Jason? Godzilla has been amassing fans since 1954, over 50 years ago, while the earliest of the three slashers, Micheal Myers, first apeared in 1978, 24 years later. No shit Godzilla has a bigger fanbase, he's been around longer!

Not to mention about a bah-zillion Japanese fans who wouldn't give a weakling in a funny mask the time of day...

That sounds pretty true to me.

A weakling in a funny mask.....shit all the "weakling" in the funny mask would have to do is turn around and unzip the rubber suit.

aren't you just a genius. I had no idea studios make movies so they can make money. I'm sure classic knows that too what He/She is getting at is that it's better when a movie is made because the director/writer/producer wants to make the movie not because he was the guy hand picked by the film company.

totally agree.

I hate to break this to you Gojira but both Jason and Freddy have a bigger following. There are SO MANY websites on both of these guys, i havn't seen too many Godzilla ones.

i don't know what's with this guys Godzilla fetish but it's just not a better directed/writen/produced/acted/set designed/costume designed/scored/anything else you can think of film than Halloween,The Exorcist.Texas Chainsaw Massacre and definately not the Shining or any of the other films that he's been doing nothing but bashing since he got here. I mean seriously it's a guy in a big rubber suit knocking over fake buildings with a buch of Japanese people running around screaming and they just keep going back and forth between him knocking down buildings and people running and screaming and the military trying to think of a way to stop him that's the whole freakin movie.

yep yep you got that right...

it seems to me this guys isnt even a horror fan.

i mean i know there are fans that have bazaar tastes but this guy is just i dont even know

Whacko?

LOL LOL LOL man I have been watching horror movies for 39 years but in the eyes of Nemesis that does not make me a horror fan. LOL LOL LOL Now thats funny. I post how I felt about watching a few horror movies and the onesI dont care for and that makes me a bully lol. Whats funny is that I see some not all board members bash Godzilla without seen the latest Godzilla movies. At least I am honest when I say not all Godzilla movies are good and I bash the ones that do stink. Some of you kids just crack me up. LOL kids these days

Gojira, it appears to me that you think any modern horror films can't hold a candle to your Godzilla films. Frankly, it just sounds like a bitter middle aged man holding onto his favorites from childhood. I should know, I AM a bitter 30 year old, and I think everything made between TCM('74) and A Nightmare On Elm Street('84) is the golden age. So I can relate to you viewing your formative years fondly. But to dismiss Halloween, The Shining and TCM is just laughable, really. I defend these movies to the death since I grew up watching them, but even a younger fan can see that they are great films. I think you really need to expand your horizons just as you wish others would expand theirs to include Godzilla.

Bottom line is, we all think the horror movies that shaped us when we were young are the greatest...maybe we remember them too fondly through nostalgia sometimes, but it doesn't make that opinion wrong. But to ignore movies just based on a bias is wrong ...and that goes for people ripping on Godzilla too.(like me;) )

1) Halloween 4
2) Dawn of the Dead (original)
3) Night of the Living Dead (remake) yup..what can I say I saw the remake when i was like 7 and I saw the original later, I dunno I just love the remake.
4) Halloween
5) The Butterfly Effect ....I don't consider it Horror, but alot of people do.


I'm more of a sequel and remake type then original. And I'm sure I'll get quoted and some fucking asshole will tell me that I know nothing about Horror movies..

Hi Omen I respect your thoughts on what you said and if you read everything I have said about Godzilla you will I dont defend all his movies as I have posted that I really hate all of the 5 1970s Godzilla movies with a passion. It baffles me when people say they like Godzilla vs. Megalon 1973 as much as when people say they like TCM in 1974. I dont like either one of those movies and I think both are big let downs. Here is a list of Godzilla movies I think suck KingKong vs. Godzilla 1962 Godzilla vs. the Seamonster 1966 Son of Godzilla 1967 Godzillas Revenge 1969 Godzilla vs. Hedora 1971 Godzilla vs. Gigan 1972 Godzilla vs. Megalon 1973 Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla 1974 Terror of MechaGodzilla 1975. I think the best quality horror movies were made in the 50s and 1960s and a few in the 1970s. Alot of Dracula fans will admit that Lee is a better Dracula than Bela this does not mean Dracula 1931 was a bad movie it just means Hammer made better Dracula movies. And Bram Stokers Dracula in 1992is down right AWESOME and that is a much much better made movie than Horor of Dracula in 1958. I like all 3 but I think Lee is a better Dracula and Cushing a better Vanhelsing. I am sure those who like Lon Chaney in the Wolfman 1941 will agree that the Howling 1981 is a better movie the Howling is my Fave Werewolf movie. But I still enjoy Chaneys the Wolfman. I am into film advancement and horror movies that are reaaly well made. I was not so suprprised to see on this boars that some fans hat remakes and those same fans love the 1931 Dracula and 1931 Frankenstien movies. I pointed out that those movies are remakes. I have not bashed those remakes at all. I remember when TCM was being remade there was talk that that would suck yet I think remakes are a good idea. What irks me is when people talk bad about a movie they have never seen that just tells me that person is a total moron. What I like are fans who ask about movies they have not seen and where they can see them. Old or new if a horror movie is good and I like it i will say it if I dont and others do I will ask why and if others ask me why I lik dislike it I will tell them my reasons. This does not mean I am bashing the movie I am just saying how I felt about it thats it. There are people back in 1977 who saw Starwars and said they hated it. I asked them why when everyone else seems to like it. They simply said they dont like movies about space. They didnt bash SW they just said how they felt about it and I can respect that. Now imagine a person bashing SW who never saw it. Yep thats a moron. Omen my thinking is that maybesome younger board members are to sensitive.

Hi Joker I agree some sequels are pretty good like the Hammer Dracula movies imo the best Dracula series ever made. When it comes to remakes I am all for them. Famous remakes include 1923 Hunchback of Norte Dame Frankenstien 1931 Dracula 1931 The Mummy 1932 Wolfman 1941 another WW movie made after 1913. Hammer remade a few of Universals movies as well. The way I see it some of these movies are better than originals in some cases. I think if a movie company is lucky enough to make a horror character into a franchize where they can makes sequels fans like then more power to them. Any Franchize will only make money as long as the movies are good.

Hi Classic go to the Godzilla 1954-2005 section of the board in Classic horror movies I will post what the Godzilla fanbase is but your not going to believe it.

you keep saying that these old Dracula,Frankenstein wolfman ect. films are remakes but they aren't. Everytime a Dracula movie or Werewolf movie is made they're for the most part all different when we're talking about remakes we don't mean the ones where it has the same name and that's basicly it, we mean the remakes that are being done by people who aren't like the guys in the 70's and 80's those guys like Wes Craven,Sam Raimi,Bruce Cambell,John Carpenter ect. ect. they were broke and just wanted to make movies it wasn't all about the money it was about doing what they liked to do and doing it well. These days the people who get the assignment to remake those classic films most of the time don't even have history in horror for example i could be off a little but i can't recall his name at the moment but the guy who did the texas chainsaw remake hadn't even directed anything but music videos before he was given the job. The point is the guys back in the 70's and 80's had a passion to make movies and make them well and that's what they did,the people that get the job to remake them don't want to do anything but make money.

Well Austin growing up and reading as a guy who was 12 12 14 years old Famous Monsters Magazine and the Monster Times I can tell you this back in the late 60s early to mid 70s I would see what guys like Steve Speilberg George Lucas Steveen King Rick Baker Joe Dante would write in and ask how to make a movie certain way like applying make up a certain way or how to make special effects etc. And they wanted to learn how to become better film makers and make money. Some of these guys succeeded. Some started out as independent film makers that worked real hard and who got a chance at making a studio movie. Then they made some good movies. The bottom line is no film maker will make a movie out of his own pocket and let people see it for free. They want to make a profit so they can make a 2nd and 3rd movie. Now believe me back in 1992 there was an awesome remake of Bram Stokers novel Dracula and in 1958 Hammer studios bought the rights of Dracula and a few other of Universals monster to remake those movies. And back in 1931 Universal bought the rights of Dracula to remake the movie from Florence Stoker. The 2 Dracula movies that were made before in Russia 1920 and Hungry 1921 were made without the permission of Florence and Florence stopped a 3rd Dracula movie from being made without her permission in 1922 that movie became Nosferatu instead. And I am sure Universal obtained the rights to remake Frankenstien in 1931 after all Frankenstien had been made twice before in 1910 & 1915. Werewolf movies were not really remakes someone would make a Werewolf movie then someone else made their own and so on all diffrent storys about Werewolfs. The same might be said for Mummy movies except when Hammer remade the old Universal movies. Mary Shelleys Frankenstien movie in 1994 is out standing and of course its a remake of Shelleys famous novel imo its better than Universals 1931 movie. I think Wes Cravens movie The Hills have Eyes back in 1977 is pretty good. If you ask guys like Rick Baker where he learned how to do what he does he will tell you from a guy in NY who use to work on the old horror movies. Phil Tippot of course learned spfx and stop motion by studdying Ray Harryhausen Ray learned from willis O brian about stopmotion effects and the guy who invented stopmotion was Georges Melies. If you look at how each person devolops the art a little better than the person who invented itthen thats a good thing because now better movies can be made. I think the guy who directed TCM in 1974 was Tobe Hooper he also directed the movie Polterguist. Believe me when Tobe was offerd to direct that movie Polterguist he didnt say no and he made a damn good movie. It made lots of money enough to warrent making a sequel. I dont see fans complaining about how Tobe made it for the money do you?

Hey Jokermoney... Glad to see Im not the only one who really really liked The Butterfly Effect... I loved the plot, creepy scenes and even thought the acting was good. I didnt expect much because it was Ashton Kutcher in it but it was one of the best movies I've seen in a couple years. I've been telling a lot of people to watch this movie.

no offence .. but if you could start using paragraphs or something on a post this long ... i'd start reading them ..

Hi Urgeok point taken lol sometimes I just keep typing and oh well
Anyway I will try and make the effort and glad you told me thanks.

i know nobody is going to make a movie then let people see it for free,i know that the point of making independent films are to eventually make it to hollywood all i'm saying is when people are doing independent films trying to make it big they try and work harder than they do after they make it. My theory is that they get to comfortable and maybe a little cocky and think that they can make anything and people will like it for example one of the guys you mentioned Wes Craven, The Hills Have Eyes good film made by a hard working director/writer, Last House on the Left great film made by the same hard working director/writer then after awhile came Nightmare on Elm Street another great film by the same hard working director/writer who had finally made it big. Ever since the original Nightmare Wes Craven has been making either ok or just crappy films.
Get my point.

i guess this applies to me as well. I'll do that.

I just have one question.

How do you know all this shit? lol

Case in Point : Chiller:mad: