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Stingy Jack 10-04-2004 05:44 PM

Re: debate
 
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Originally posted by brideofcthulu
Eloquently put. The point that I was trying to make exactly. I believe that marriage is an intrinsic right, not one to be debated. I can't believe that people don't understand that. Did you think I meant something else?
Yes, I misunderstood you. I thought you meant that these topics were not worthy of debate and should not be considered when choosing who you're going to vote for. My bad.

;)

brideofcthulu 10-04-2004 05:46 PM

So what do Canadians think of gay marriage and religion

Stingy Jack 10-04-2004 05:50 PM

I grew up in Canada, and can tell you that they are far more accepting of differences than people are here in the US.

Tubalcain 10-04-2004 05:58 PM

creeper, before i say anything else, let me first say this. i mean you no disrespect in anything i say, just genuinely curious. you say you are a practicing witch, and have respect for nature, which is honorable, and yet you say that if you had to choose between the two candidates you would choose bush. yet in the short period before 9/11, bush did several things to rape the natural resources of our countries, including cutting the epa budget, opening up talks about drilling and logging in our national forests, etc... i admit that i dont know as much about the wiccan religion, but doesnt this weigh on your mind. im christian, and it bothers the hell out of me. sorry, no offence intended, like i said, im just curious.

brideofcthulu 10-04-2004 06:34 PM

I applaud openminded people Stingy jack. Wish there were more

Tubalcain 10-04-2004 06:41 PM

sure canada is opened minded, they let anyone in. including terrorists.

Tubalcain 10-04-2004 06:48 PM

i'm sorry, that was wrong. i just have a lot of border patrol agents it the family, and im subjected to their rants. i guess canada is alright. one thing i did like, though. i saw on bowling for columbine michael moore was going door to door, opening peoples doors, because he heard that noone locks their doors. and after he opened them the people came out and they weren't man. we dont lock our doors where i live, but if someone walked into my house, it would be hard not to attack them. sorry though, please forgive.

Steve_Hutchison 10-05-2004 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by brideofcthulu
So what do Canadians think of gay marriage and religion
Canadians don't share one brain but we even have gay divorces now. Cool EH?

Steve_Hutchison 10-05-2004 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by Tubalcain
sure canada is opened minded, they let anyone in. including terrorists.
There are no green cards here! If I could, I'd move to NYC. I like Canada tough.. just not my place. But our healthcare is really good... then again our taxes are high.

Arioch 10-05-2004 08:32 AM

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They say never to discusss religion or politics. No one ever sees someone else's point of view no matter how well argued or construed that point is. I wondered how long it would take the argument to come down to Christ and gay marriage. All I can say on that is, I can't you believe in the 21st century IN AMERICA people are telling others who they can and can't marry. I can't believe that people don't realize marriage and love are basic rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Why you would care who someone else marries or worships is beyond me. How could two people getting married effect you. I think this election should be won or lost on issues that affect all of us, all of our defense, all of our taxes, all of our health. Not on if two people who want to, get married. It seems laughable that that is even an issue.
Agreed.....very well put.....its just another form of discrimination...why dont we just have all the gays work cotton fields for us....:o

Steve_Hutchison 10-05-2004 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Arioch
Agreed.....very well put.....its just another form of discrimination...why dont we just have all the gays work cotton fields for us....:o
I should be free to marry to 4 women at once.

DaBroMain 10-05-2004 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by Arioch
Agreed.....very well put.....its just another form of discrimination...why dont we just have all the gays work cotton fields for us....:o

LOL nice.....:D :D

Arioch 10-05-2004 02:45 PM

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I should be free to marry to 4 women at once.
Haha....agreed....

Arioch 10-13-2004 06:46 PM

So anyone see the last debate tonight?

I thought Kerry laid it down over and over about the Top 1% tax cuts bush has initiated.....

But other than that, it was really even.....

MichaelMyers 10-13-2004 06:55 PM

I thought it was a tie. I was hoping for some kind of "zinger" from either side...none really, though.

newb 10-13-2004 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I thought it was a tie. I was hoping for some kind of "zinger" from either side...none really, though.
Agreed. Same ole same ole.

Arioch 10-13-2004 07:32 PM

I was REALLY dissapointed that they BOTH thought Religion was such a big issue with legislating.....NIETHER of them said anything about the SEPERATION that SHOULD exist between their religion and the laws they make governing the rest of the country.....and us hethens....

last bad move 10-13-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Arioch
I was REALLY dissapointed that they BOTH thought Religion was such a big issue with legislating.....NIETHER of them said anything about the SEPERATION that SHOULD exist between their religion and the laws they make governing the rest of the country.....and us hethens....
actualy i was just thinking that i only cought a little of it but i was disipointed that they made no statment about what you just said

newb 10-13-2004 07:35 PM

We interrupt this political debate for an important message.

The Red Sox just lost another one.


THE CURSE LIVES ON.


Now back to our regular programming.

last bad move 10-13-2004 07:45 PM

i swear it makes me sick to even watch that shit any more.they just bullshit its fucking discusting and we have to pick one of them to be our president. it impossible to tell who is honest or shit. war, health care, freedom. they say what people want to hear empty lies. ok ill shut up im just bitching now.

Arioch 10-13-2004 08:17 PM

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i swear it makes me sick to even watch that shit any more.they just bullshit its fucking discusting and we have to pick one of them to be our president. it impossible to tell who is honest or shit. war, health care, freedom. they say what people want to hear empty lies. ok ill shut up im just bitching now.
Why i dont vote sir....i refuse to perpetuate the problems inherent in a 2 party system....

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 05:26 AM

I watched the debate last night, and was really looking forward to it because domestic issues are a major concern for me. I agree with Arioch in that I was disappointed in how much clout both candidates put in faith. But I can understand it. If you're going to win the votes of as many Americans as you can, you'd better talk about how faith and religion are important (even if you don't believe it). I think Kerry did a better job than Bush in emphasizing that people of all faiths (and even those of us with no faith at all) deserve equal rights. And Kerry was more clear with the point that he would not legislate in such a way that his faith is pushed on others (hence his stances on abortion, stem cell research, and gay marriage.) Granted, he does agree with Bush that "marriage" is defined as the union between a man and a woman. But Kerry is more accepting of gay couples than Bush is, and is willing to extend the same rights to gay couples that married couples already enjoy. Basically, even though Kerry did talk about how his faith is important to him (he HAD to say that -- anything else would have been death for him, unfortunately), he was pretty clear -- albeit, in a roundabout way -- that he does not believe in governing a nation in such a way that everyone is forced to conform to the religious ideas of the President -- meaning: he is so very much for separation of church and state.

Can't say the same for Bush.

movieman64 10-14-2004 06:00 AM

Busch won last night, and will go on to defeat Kerry in November. I also felt bringing Chaney's daughter into it was unnecessary.

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
Busch won last night, and will go on to defeat Kerry in November. I also felt bringing Chaney's daughter into it was unnecessary.
Why do you keep spelling Bush's name like the beer? Is it some kind of joke (like: "I hope the beer wins the presidency!"?)

I agree that Kerry shouldn't have mentioned Cheney's daughter. Not really anybody's business.

movieman64 10-14-2004 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Why do you keep spelling Bush's name like the beer? Is it some kind of joke (like: "I hope the beer wins the presidency!"?)

I agree that Kerry shouldn't have mentioned Cheney's daughter. Not really anybody's business.

OOOP's, habit I guess, thank you for correcting me.

On that note isn't the Owner/CEO of Coors's running for Governor in Colorado?

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by movieman64
OOOP's, habit I guess, thank you for correcting me.

On that note isn't the Owner/CEO of Coors's running for Governor in Colorado?

lol I don't really know. Not sure how I would feel about that, though.

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 06:26 AM

War issues aside, we need a democrat in the house.

Simple as that.


Republicans care about the upper class.

Democrats care about the people.

You want more jobs in this country? You want to bring back the jobs Bush sent overseas so that the rich got even richer? You want our economy to get better? You want the middle and lower class people to have more money and food on their tables?

Then you need Kerry in the White House.


I'm about this country, and our people, I've felt firsthand what the job loss has done, what this fucked up economy has done.

It's time to fix it!

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by Ninja Moo
War issues aside, we need a democrat in the house.

Simple as that.


Republicans care about the upper class.

Democrats care about the people.

You want more jobs in this country? You want to bring back the jobs Bush sent overseas so that the rich got even richer? You want our economy to get better? You want the middle and lower class people to have more money and food on their tables?

Then you need Kerry in the White House.


I'm about this country, and our people, I've felt firsthand what the job loss has done, what this fucked up economy has done.

It's time to fix it!

It's too bad you're married. (sigh). Then again, I'm married too ... forgot about that.

allmykids 10-14-2004 06:48 AM

AAAHHHHH!!!! :( No more please! it's on every chanel. Make it stop!!

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
It's too bad you're married. (sigh). Then again, I'm married too ... forgot about that.
It wouldn't work anyways... You're an English teacher ... I'm going to school to be an English teacher.. We'd spend our whole lives correcting one another .. and neither would be able to add worth a shit. :D

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by Ninja Moo
It wouldn't work anyways... You're an English teacher ... I'm going to school to be an English teacher.. We'd spend our whole lives correcting one another .. and neither would be able to add worth a shit. :D
You have a total of 6 uneeded ellipses points in that entry. Edit, please.

:eek:

You might be right! :D

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 06:58 AM

:) I never use sentences on the 'net ... I use ellipses.. They're cute...

My husband and I work out just fine ... He's the "math and computer guy"... I correct his spelling and speech ... he adds for me.. and fixes my computer..

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by Ninja Moo
:) I never use sentences on the 'net ... I use ellipses.. They're cute...

My husband and I work out just fine ... He's the "math and computer guy"... I correct his spelling and speech ... he adds for me.. and fixes my computer..

The wife is the cold voice of logic and reason (she majored in philosophy). So, basically I say or do something ... and she points out how ridiculous what I just said or did was. Then I write her an "I hate you" poem, which she doesn't get because it has symbolism and figurative language throughout.

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
The wife is the cold voice of logic and reason (she majored in philosophy). So, basically I say or do something ... and she points out how ridiculous what I just said or did was. Then I write her an "I hate you" poem, which she doesn't get because it has symbolism and figurative language throughout.
That's good stuff.

My husband just laughs at me when we shop. Because I never add correctly.

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 07:14 AM

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That's good stuff.

My husband just laughs at me when we shop. Because I never add correctly.

My wife won't let me have any money, because I never add correctly. She'll tell me "Here's twenty dollars. You can only spend ten." I'll come home after spending the whole twenty, and writing a check to cover what I didn't have in cash. Of course, she just doesn't understand how I needed both the copy of Jack-O and the special edition of Fulci's Zombie.

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
My wife won't let me have any money, because I never add correctly. She'll tell me "Here's twenty dollars. You can only spend ten." I'll come home after spending the whole twenty, and writing a check to cover what I didn't have in cash. Of course, she just doesn't understand how I needed both the copy of Jack-O and the special edition of Fulci's Zombie.
My husband is pretty understanding about my addiction to Horror movies. He has one to video games so it goes both ways. He'll shake his head and rolls his eyes occassionally. Like when I got all five Silent Night Deadly Nights and all three Sleepaway Camps on ebay and they came in the mail in a huge package. :D

The only time he complains is during Shocktober, (My friendly term for this, my favorite month of the year) when I insist upon watching one horror movie a day and buying new ones every week at the store.

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by Ninja Moo
My husband is pretty understanding about my addiction to Horror movies. He has one to video games so it goes both ways. He'll shake his head and rolls his eyes occassionally. Like when I got all five Silent Night Deadly Nights and all three Sleepaway Camps on ebay and they came in the mail in a huge package. :D

The only time he complains is during Shocktober, (My friendly term for this, my favorite month of the year) when I insist upon watching one horror movie a day and buying new ones every week at the store.

lol! Same here! I'm under lock and key during the weeks leading up to Halloween. Not only do I go on random horror movie shopping sprees, but I stock up on decorations and scary music too. My wife tried to allay my spending by buying me one of those "10 Horror Movies on Double-Sided Disks!" collections ... but most of those suck.

Ninja Moo 10-14-2004 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
lol! Same here! I'm under lock and key during the weeks leading up to Halloween. Not only do I go on random horror movie shopping sprees, but I stock up on decorations and scary music too. My wife tried to allay my spending by buying me one of those "10 Horror Movies on Double-Sided Disks!" collections ... but most of those suck.
Oh yeah, those are the lame horror movies made in 1835... lol..

I went out and got a part time job at the end of August. He can't say a word to me... Every Friday guess where my check goes? Horror movies, decorations, stuff for costumes.. hahaha...

Stingy Jack 10-14-2004 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Ninja Moo
Oh yeah, those are the lame horror movies made in 1835... lol..

I went out and got a part time job at the end of August. He can't say a word to me... Every Friday guess where my check goes? Horror movies, decorations, stuff for costumes.. hahaha...

Damn ... see, that's where the laziness comes in. I should get a part time job. But will I? Hell no.

Arioch 10-14-2004 08:24 AM

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War issues aside, we need a democrat in the house.

Simple as that.


Republicans care about the upper class.

Democrats care about the people.

You want more jobs in this country? You want to bring back the jobs Bush sent overseas so that the rich got even richer? You want our economy to get better? You want the middle and lower class people to have more money and food on their tables?

Then you need Kerry in the White House.


I'm about this country, and our people, I've felt firsthand what the job loss has done, what this fucked up economy has done.

It's time to fix it!
OMG! Can i marry you?!?!?!


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