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_____V_____ 01-12-2013 09:14 AM

For those who lost the 40s list, here it is again. It will be up for the next 9-10 days as we debate over the final slots for the 20s and take the 30s up. Feel free to send me a PM listing your choices from this period.


LAST SET OF THE FIRST ERA - THE 40s

Here's the third set of films, through 1940 up to 1949.

Again, those films which did not get even a single vote on IMDB have been omitted.

A few noteworthy short films (some animated) have been added again.


Choose 20 from the following and send me your PM:

A Light in the Window (1942)
And Then There Were None (1945)
Bedlam (1946)
Before I Hang (1940)
Black Friday (1940)
Black Magic (1944)
Bluebeard (1944)
Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)
Calling Dr. Death (1943)
Captive Wild Woman (1943)
Castle Sinister (1948)
Cat People (1942)
Crazy Knights (1944)
Cry of the Werewolf (1944)
Daughter of Darkness (1948)
Dead Man's Eyes (1944)
Dead Men Walk (1943)
Dead of Night (1945)
Devil Bat's Daughter (1946)
Devil Monster (1946)
Dr. Cyclops (1940)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1941)
Dr. Renault's Secret (1942)
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors (1943)
Dragonwyck (1946)
Fog Island (1945)
Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943)
Ghost Catchers (1944)
Gildersleeve's Ghost (1944)
Hangover Square (1945)
Hay muertos que no hacen ruido (1946)
Herencia macabra (1940)
Horror Island (1941)
House of Darkness (1948)
House of Dracula (1945)
House of Frankenstein (1944)
House of Horrors (1946)
I Married a Witch (1942)
I Walked with a Zombie (1943)
Invisible Ghost (1941)
Isle of the Dead (1945)
Jungle Woman (1944)
King of the Zombies (1941)
La herencia de la Llorona (1947)
La main du diable (1943)
La torre de los siete jorobados (1944)
Lady of Burlesque (1943)
Le loup des Malveneur (1943)
Linnaisten vihreä kamari (1945)
Man in Black (1949)
Man Made Monster (1941)
Man with Two Lives (1942)
Master Minds (1949)
Night Monster (1942)
Nijiotoko (1949)
O Louco (1945)
Old Mother Riley's Ghosts (1941)
One Body Too Many (1944)
Phantom of the Opera (1943)
Pillow of Death (1945)
Rebecca (1940)
Return of the Ape Man (1944)
Revenge of the Zombies (1943)
Sanbon yubi no otoko (1947)
Secret Beyond the Door... (1947)
She-Wolf of London (1946)
Son of Dracula (1943)
Son of Ingagi (1940)
Sortilèges (1945)
Spooks Run Wild (1941)
Spuk im Schloß (1947)
Strange Confession (1945)
Strangler of the Swamp (1946)
The Ape (1940)
The Ape Man (1943)
The Beast with Five Fingers (1946)
The Black Cat (1941)
The Body Snatcher (1945)
The Boogie Man Will Get You (1942)
The Brute Man (1946)
The Catman of Paris (1946)
The Climax (1944)
The Corpse Vanishes (1942)
The Creeper (1948)
The Curse of the Wraydons (1946)
The Devil Bat (1940)
The Devil Commands (1941)
The Door with Seven Locks (1940)
The Face of Marble (1946)
The Fall of the House of Usher (1949)
The Feathered Serpent (1948)
The Flying Serpent (1946)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947)
The Ghost Breakers (1940)
The Ghost of Frankenstein (1942)
The Ghost Ship (1943)
The Ghost Train (1941)
The Greed of William Hart (1948)
The Headless Woman (1947)
The Hidden Hand (1942)
The Invisible Man Returns (1940)
The Invisible Man's Revenge (1944)
The Jade Mask (1945)
The Jungle Captive (1945)
The Lady and the Monster (1944)
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow (1949 Animated Short)
The Leopard Man (1943)
The Living Ghost (1942)
The Lodger (1944)
The Mad Doctor of Market Street (1942)
The Mad Ghoul (1943)
The Mad Monster (1942)
The Mask of Diijon (1946)
The Monkey's Paw (1948)
The Monster and the Girl (1941)
The Monster Maker (1944)
The Mummy's Curse (1944)
The Mummy's Ghost (1944)
The Mummy's Hand (1940)
The Mummy's Tomb (1942)
The Mysterious Doctor (1943)
The Night Comes Too Soon (1947)
The Night Has Eyes (1942)
The Phantom Speaks (1945)
The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945)
The Portrait (1948)
The Queen of Spades (1949)
The Red House (1947)
The Return of the Vampire (1944)
The Seventh Victim (1943)
The Snow Man (1940 Animated Short)
The Soul of a Monster (1944)
The Spider Woman Strikes Back (1946)
The Spiral Staircase (1945)
The Strange Case of Doctor Rx (1942)
The Tell-Tale Heart (1941 Short)
The Undying Monster (1942)
The Uninvited (1944)
The Vampire's Ghost (1945)
The Wolf Man (1941)
Things Happen at Night (1947)
Third Dimensional Murder (1941 Short)
Uncle Silas (1947)
Unknown Island (1948)
Unusual Tales (1949)
Valley of the Zombies (1946)
Voodoo Man (1944)
Woman Who Came Back (1945)
Ye ban ge sheng xu ji (1941)
Yotsuya kaidan (1949)
Yotsuya kaidan, Part II (1949)
You'll Find Out (1940)
Zombies on Broadway (1945)

_____V_____ 01-12-2013 09:20 AM

Here are the ones vying for our attention for the final 3 spots from the first period of horror - 1890s to 1920s. The ones getting the backing are marked in bold.


DEBATABLE

The Monkey's Paw (1923) - 4
Waxworks (1924) - 4

Bluebeard (1901, Short) - 3
Le Manoir du Diable (1896) - 3 (backed by fortunato, seconded by Fearonsarms)
The Golem (1915) - 3
The Hands of Orlac (1924) - 3
The Hound of the Baskervilles (1922) - 3
The Lodger (1927) - 3
The Lost World (1925) - 3


MINORITY

A Page of Madness (1926) - 2 (backed by fortunato, seconded by neverending)
Dante's Inferno (1911) - 2 (backed by Fearonsarms, seconded by fortunato)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1920, Sheldon Lewis) - 2
The 400 Tricks of the Devil (1906, Short) - 2 (backed by Straker)
The Monster (1925) - 2
The Penalty (1920) - 2
The Student of Prague (1913) - 2
The Terror (1928) - 2
The Unknown (1927) - 2
The Wizard (1927) - 2

A Blind bargain (1922) - The Ugly Duchess
Der Januskopf (1920) - neverending
Destiny (1921) - roshiq
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1912, Short) - The Villain
Eerie Tales (1919) - Fearonsarms
House of Horror (1929) - hammerfan
Salome (1923) - Fearonsarms
The Dark Mirror (1920) - The Ugly Duchess
The Haunted Castle (1921) - fortunato
The Headless Horseman (1922) - The Villain
The Man Who Cheated Life (1926) - roshiq
The Sealed Room (1909) - Straker
The Unholy Night (1929) - The Ugly Duchess
Wolf Blood (1925) - Chronogrl


So far, 2 films look to seal their spots. 1 more remains to be selected.

Chip in with your thoughts, folks!

_____V_____ 01-14-2013 08:14 PM

Anyone else willing to second a backed choice from the first period?

Fearonsarms 01-14-2013 09:56 PM

Not the best quality but you can check out Dante's Inferno (1911) here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo4T3GUL9I0

I don't think I explained before that not only is it the first Italian horror film, it's also the world's oldest surviving feature length film.

fortunato 01-15-2013 07:54 AM

I'll back Dante's Inferno (1911). In addition to what Fearonsarms said, it's also significant in being an adaptation of Dante's work, which would go on to inform horror cinema in countless ways.

_____V_____ 01-15-2013 09:02 AM

Thank you, fearonsarms and fortunato. We have our chosen 20 from the first period. We will revisit this period in the end when we finalise the Honorable Mentions.


Let's now move into the decade of the 1930s. Summation for this era is as follows:-

Total number of lists received = 9.

IN THE CUT

Dracula (1931) - 9
Frankenstein (1931) - 9
Freaks (1932) - 9
The Bride of Frankenstein (1935) - 9
Vampyr (1932) - 9

King Kong (1933) - 8
The Black Cat (1934) - 8
The Invisible Man (1933) - 8

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931) - 7
M (1931) - 7
Mad Love (1935) - 7
The Mummy (1932) - 7

The Raven (1935) - 6

Island of Lost Souls (1932) - 5
Maniac (1934) - 5
White Zombie (1932) - 5



DEBATABLE

Dracula (1931) Spanish - 4
Dracula's Daughter (1936) - 4
Son of Frankenstein (1939) - 4 (backed by hammerfan, seconded by neverending)
The Old Dark House (1932) - 4 (backed by neverending)
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) - 4

Bucket of Blood (1932) - 3
Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932) - 3
The Devil-Doll (1936) - 3
Werewolf of London (1935) - 3


MINORITY

Mark of the Vampire (1935) - 2
Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933) - 2
The Ghoul (1933) - 2 (backed by neverending)
The Golem (1936) - 2
The Invisible Ray (1936) - 2 (backed by neverending)

A Shot in the Dark (1935) - Chronogrl
Black Moon (1934) - The Ugly Duchess
Doctor X (1932) - The Ugly Duchess
I Accuse (1938) - fortunato
Night of Terror (1933) - Despare
Revolt of the Zombies (1936) - hammerfan (-1)
The Bells (1931) - Fearonsarms
The Black Room (1935) - roshiq
The Cat and the Canary (1939) - Despare
The Demon Barber Of Fleet Street (1936) - Fearonsarms
The Devil's Daughter (1939) - Fearonsarms
The Hound of the Baskervilles (1939) Rathbone/Bruce - hammerfan
The Human Monster (1939) - The Ugly Duchess
The Man They Could Not Hang (1939) - roshiq
The Man Who Lived Again (1936) - roshiq
The Monkey's Paw (1933) - Chronogrl
The Thirteenth Guest (1932) - Chronogrl
The Vampire Bat (1933) - hammerfan
The Walking Dead (1936) - roshiq
Witches Night (1937) - Fearonsarms


16 films have made it in, by a vote percentage of over 50%.

We need to select FOUR more films from the other two sections (preferably from the DEBATABLE section), and 6 Honorable Mentions from the rest.

I have posted the names of the HDC-ians who sent in their unique choices, i.e., those which got only 1 vote, and that vote was theirs only.

Please post your reasons for choosing your unique films, your backing for the MINORITY & DEBATABLE selections, and why you feel your chosen ones should be included in the 4 remaining spots.

OR

If everyone is in agreement, we can go for FOUR choices from the FIVE films with 4 votes into the final selection. That way we end up with our selected 20.

So, go ahead. Post your views.

hammerfan 01-15-2013 10:09 AM

I would like to see Son of Frankenstein make the cut. It's my favorite of the franchise - I've always been a big fan of Basil Rathbone.

neverending 01-15-2013 10:28 AM

Son of Frankenstein is a MUST. It completes the Frankenstein trilogy, and contains a lot of the imagery that we remember.

The Old Dark House is also a must. All star cast and a tremendously wicked script combine to make a movie well worth watching.

The Ghoul and The Invisible Ray both have great performances from the King of Horror.

I'd also like to argue AGAINST Revolt of the Zombies. It's a really crappy low budget piece of junk.

_____V_____ 01-15-2013 11:36 AM

Thanks, guys. Original list duly edited.

Straker 01-15-2013 01:26 PM

I'll happily back/ second:

Son of Frankenstein
The Old Dark House
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse

fortunato 01-15-2013 09:03 PM

I'd like to back Son of Frankenstein and The Old Dark House. Like NE said, they both contain so much popular imagery of horror cinema, and The Old Dark House especially set a template that would be used time and time again.

_____V_____ 01-15-2013 11:29 PM

Thanks, guys. We have found 2 more films, and that takes the tally to 18.

Need two more. Let's see which ones make that final cut.


DEBATABLE

Dracula (1931) Spanish - 4
Dracula's Daughter (1936) - 4
Son of Frankenstein (1939) - 4 (backed by hammerfan, seconded by neverending, Straker, fortunato, Despare, realdealblues)
The Old Dark House (1932) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker, fortunato, realdealblues)
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) - 4 (backed by Straker, seconded by Despare, hammerfan)

Bucket of Blood (1932) - 3 (backed by Despare)
Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932) - 3 (backed by Fearonsarms)
The Devil-Doll (1936) - 3 (backed by Fearonsarms)
Werewolf of London (1935) - 3


MINORITY

Mark of the Vampire (1935) - 2
Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933) - 2
The Ghoul (1933) - 2 (backed by neverending, seconded by Fearonsarms)
The Golem (1936) - 2
The Invisible Ray (1936) - 2 (backed by neverending, seconded by Despare)

A Shot in the Dark (1935) - Chronogrl
Black Moon (1934) - The Ugly Duchess
Doctor X (1932) - The Ugly Duchess
I Accuse (1938) - fortunato
Night of Terror (1933) - Despare
Revolt of the Zombies (1936) - hammerfan (-1)
The Bells (1931) - Fearonsarms
The Black Room (1935) - roshiq
The Cat and the Canary (1939) - Despare
The Demon Barber Of Fleet Street (1936) - Fearonsarms
The Devil's Daughter (1939) - Fearonsarms
The Hound of the Baskervilles (1939) Rathbone/Bruce - hammerfan
The Human Monster (1939) - The Ugly Duchess
The Man They Could Not Hang (1939) - roshiq
The Man Who Lived Again (1936) - roshiq
The Monkey's Paw (1933) - Chronogrl
The Thirteenth Guest (1932) - Chronogrl
The Vampire Bat (1933) - hammerfan
The Walking Dead (1936) - roshiq
Witches Night (1937) - Fearonsarms

realdealblues 01-16-2013 07:34 AM

I've been away a while V and haven't sent any votes on this one...do you want a full list?

Or do you just want like 2 votes from the debatable or minority list? If you just need 2 more votes Son Of Frankenstein and The Old Dark House work for me as well.

_____V_____ 01-16-2013 08:03 AM

Hey realdealblues welcome back!

You can send me your lists from all the periods of this first era, and also welcome to chip in with your thoughts for this selection process as well. You will find the Master Lists for the first 3 periods - 1890s to 1920s, 1930s and 1940s in the previous pages. Go through them and send me your choice of top 20 films from each period.

Fearonsarms 01-16-2013 08:05 AM

Can I please back

Murders In The Rue Morgue
The Devil Doll
The Devil's Daughter

and second the backing for The Ghoul

realdealblues 01-16-2013 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 943674)
Hey realdealblues welcome back!

You can send me your lists from all the periods of this first era, and also welcome to chip in with your thoughts for this selection process as well. You will find the Master Lists for the first 3 periods - 1890s to 1920s, 1930s and 1940s in the previous pages. Go through them and send me your choice of top 20 films from each period.

Thanks...Cool Deal. I just sent you the 40's list since I saw that wasn't up yet. I will go back and do the other too.

_____V_____ 01-16-2013 08:09 AM

Done. List duly edited.

Thank you to realdealblues for submitting the 8th list of choices for the 1940s.

Still waiting on Despare, Chronogrl and others for their lists from the 40s. We still have a week to go.

_____V_____ 01-16-2013 11:25 PM

Thanks to Despare for submitting the 9th list of choices from the 1940s, and to realdealblues for submitting lists for the 30s and the first period.

We are still debating for the final 2 spots from the 1930s. Anyone else willing to second the backed choices?

_____V_____ 01-19-2013 07:48 AM

As things stand right now, there is a tussle between The Testament of Dr. Mabuse, The Ghoul & The Invisible Ray for the final 2 spots in the chosen 20 from the 1930s. (that is, if anyone doesn't second any of the other backed choices)

Feel free to throw your weight behind any of these choices.

hammerfan 01-19-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 943775)
As things stand right now, there is a tussle between The Testament of Dr. Mabuse, The Ghoul & The Invisible Ray for the final 2 spots in the chosen 20 from the 1930s. (that is, if anyone doesn't second any of the other backed choices)

Feel free to throw your weight behind any of these choices.

I'll throw some support to Dr. Mabuse

_____V_____ 01-19-2013 10:15 PM

Thanks, HF. We have found our 19th film from the 30s.

Just 1 more.


DEBATABLE

Dracula (1931) Spanish - 4
Dracula's Daughter (1936) - 4
Son of Frankenstein (1939) - 4 (backed by hammerfan, seconded by neverending, Straker, fortunato, Despare, realdealblues)
The Old Dark House (1932) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker, fortunato, realdealblues)
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) - 4 (backed by Straker, seconded by Despare, hammerfan)

Bucket of Blood (1932) - 3 (backed by Despare)
Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932) - 3 (backed by Fearonsarms)
The Devil-Doll (1936) - 3 (backed by Fearonsarms)
Werewolf of London (1935) - 3


MINORITY

Mark of the Vampire (1935) - 2
Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933) - 2
The Ghoul (1933) - 2 (backed by neverending, seconded by Fearonsarms)
The Golem (1936) - 2
The Invisible Ray (1936) - 2 (backed by neverending, seconded by Despare, realdealblues, The Ugly Duchess)

A Shot in the Dark (1935) - Chronogrl
Black Moon (1934) - The Ugly Duchess
Doctor X (1932) - The Ugly Duchess
I Accuse (1938) - fortunato
Night of Terror (1933) - Despare
Revolt of the Zombies (1936) - hammerfan (-1)
The Bells (1931) - Fearonsarms
The Black Room (1935) - roshiq (seconded by Fearonsarms)
The Cat and the Canary (1939) - Despare
The Demon Barber Of Fleet Street (1936) - Fearonsarms
The Devil's Daughter (1939) - Fearonsarms
The Hound of the Baskervilles (1939) Rathbone/Bruce - hammerfan
The Human Monster (1939) - The Ugly Duchess
The Man They Could Not Hang (1939) - roshiq
The Man Who Lived Again (1936) - roshiq
The Monkey's Paw (1933) - Chronogrl
The Thirteenth Guest (1932) - Chronogrl
The Vampire Bat (1933) - hammerfan
The Walking Dead (1936) - roshiq
Witches Night (1937) - Fearonsarms

_____V_____ 01-24-2013 11:01 AM

Still waiting to find our 20th chosen film from the 30s, while I await more entries from the 1940s.

Here's the master list for those who might have missed it...

Choose 20 from the following and send me your PM:

A Light in the Window (1942)
And Then There Were None (1945)
Bedlam (1946)
Before I Hang (1940)
Black Friday (1940)
Black Magic (1944)
Bluebeard (1944)
Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)
Calling Dr. Death (1943)
Captive Wild Woman (1943)
Castle Sinister (1948)
Cat People (1942)
Crazy Knights (1944)
Cry of the Werewolf (1944)
Daughter of Darkness (1948)
Dead Man's Eyes (1944)
Dead Men Walk (1943)
Dead of Night (1945)
Devil Bat's Daughter (1946)
Devil Monster (1946)
Dr. Cyclops (1940)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1941)
Dr. Renault's Secret (1942)
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors (1943)
Dragonwyck (1946)
Fog Island (1945)
Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943)
Ghost Catchers (1944)
Gildersleeve's Ghost (1944)
Hangover Square (1945)
Hay muertos que no hacen ruido (1946)
Herencia macabra (1940)
Horror Island (1941)
House of Darkness (1948)
House of Dracula (1945)
House of Frankenstein (1944)
House of Horrors (1946)
I Married a Witch (1942)
I Walked with a Zombie (1943)
Invisible Ghost (1941)
Isle of the Dead (1945)
Jungle Woman (1944)
King of the Zombies (1941)
La herencia de la Llorona (1947)
La main du diable (1943)
La torre de los siete jorobados (1944)
Lady of Burlesque (1943)
Le loup des Malveneur (1943)
Linnaisten vihreä kamari (1945)
Man in Black (1949)
Man Made Monster (1941)
Man with Two Lives (1942)
Master Minds (1949)
Night Monster (1942)
Nijiotoko (1949)
O Louco (1945)
Old Mother Riley's Ghosts (1941)
One Body Too Many (1944)
Phantom of the Opera (1943)
Pillow of Death (1945)
Rebecca (1940)
Return of the Ape Man (1944)
Revenge of the Zombies (1943)
Sanbon yubi no otoko (1947)
Secret Beyond the Door... (1947)
She-Wolf of London (1946)
Son of Dracula (1943)
Son of Ingagi (1940)
Sortilèges (1945)
Spooks Run Wild (1941)
Spuk im Schloß (1947)
Strange Confession (1945)
Strangler of the Swamp (1946)
The Ape (1940)
The Ape Man (1943)
The Beast with Five Fingers (1946)
The Black Cat (1941)
The Body Snatcher (1945)
The Boogie Man Will Get You (1942)
The Brute Man (1946)
The Catman of Paris (1946)
The Climax (1944)
The Corpse Vanishes (1942)
The Creeper (1948)
The Curse of the Wraydons (1946)
The Devil Bat (1940)
The Devil Commands (1941)
The Door with Seven Locks (1940)
The Face of Marble (1946)
The Fall of the House of Usher (1949)
The Feathered Serpent (1948)
The Flying Serpent (1946)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947)
The Ghost Breakers (1940)
The Ghost of Frankenstein (1942)
The Ghost Ship (1943)
The Ghost Train (1941)
The Greed of William Hart (1948)
The Headless Woman (1947)
The Hidden Hand (1942)
The Invisible Man Returns (1940)
The Invisible Man's Revenge (1944)
The Jade Mask (1945)
The Jungle Captive (1945)
The Lady and the Monster (1944)
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow (1949 Animated Short)
The Leopard Man (1943)
The Living Ghost (1942)
The Lodger (1944)
The Mad Doctor of Market Street (1942)
The Mad Ghoul (1943)
The Mad Monster (1942)
The Mask of Diijon (1946)
The Monkey's Paw (1948)
The Monster and the Girl (1941)
The Monster Maker (1944)
The Mummy's Curse (1944)
The Mummy's Ghost (1944)
The Mummy's Hand (1940)
The Mummy's Tomb (1942)
The Mysterious Doctor (1943)
The Night Comes Too Soon (1947)
The Night Has Eyes (1942)
The Phantom Speaks (1945)
The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945)
The Portrait (1948)
The Queen of Spades (1949)
The Red House (1947)
The Return of the Vampire (1944)
The Seventh Victim (1943)
The Snow Man (1940 Animated Short)
The Soul of a Monster (1944)
The Spider Woman Strikes Back (1946)
The Spiral Staircase (1945)
The Strange Case of Doctor Rx (1942)
The Tell-Tale Heart (1941 Short)
The Undying Monster (1942)
The Uninvited (1944)
The Vampire's Ghost (1945)
The Wolf Man (1941)
Things Happen at Night (1947)
Third Dimensional Murder (1941 Short)
Uncle Silas (1947)
Unknown Island (1948)
Unusual Tales (1949)
Valley of the Zombies (1946)
Voodoo Man (1944)
Woman Who Came Back (1945)
Ye ban ge sheng xu ji (1941)
Yotsuya kaidan (1949)
Yotsuya kaidan, Part II (1949)
You'll Find Out (1940)
Zombies on Broadway (1945)

_____V_____ 01-27-2013 10:47 AM

We have 2 true contenders for the final spot from the 30s - The Ghoul & The Invisible Ray.

This is in addition to the 4 dark horses already backed by HDC-ians.

Waiting to find the one final film to seal the 20th spot from the 1930s. Then we can move into the 40s.

roshiq 01-28-2013 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 943789)

MINORITY

The Black Room (1935) - roshiq
The Man They Could Not Hang (1939) - roshiq
The Man Who Lived Again (1936) - roshiq
The Walking Dead (1936) - roshiq

I would love to see the above 4 on the final list...all were great treats for the Karloff fans. Except the Black Room, the rest 3 were 3 best Karloff's Mad Scientist films...I just loved them, The Man They Could Not Hang comes with a story that may be fairly conventional and routine in today's genre standard, but there are some splendid moments in the house of Karloff menacing his "guests" and letting each one know how long he or she has to live; somewhat like a intriguingly take on Agatha Christie's timeless classic "Ten Little Indians/And Then There Were None".
The Man Who Lived Again aka The Man Who Changed His Mind was another highly entertaining addition to the king's Mad Scientist movies. And this time not only Karloff but also Frank Cellier, as Lord Haslewood, walks away with the picture whenever the duo is on screen. And with somewhat like a film noir mystery & dark atmospheric background, The Walking Dead was highly original in its premise that starts off a bit slowly but soon builds itself to a beautiful, memorable conclusion.

But if I have to pick one, then just for being a good Karloff fan, I'd pick The Black Room; though it comes with a quite traditional set up but it showcases one the best & pretty rare performances from (If I'm not mistaken, I think this is the only film where) the King of Horror on a double role of playing twin brothers: one good-one evil! And that makes it a must see, IMO.

Fearonsarms 01-28-2013 03:55 AM

V sorry to be a nuisance but can I change my backing of The Devil's Daughter? I only backed it (which I should have said so before) because it was the first horror movie to feature an all black cast. So though it was very significant, if you take it as a movie it is pretty bad and doesn't really deserve inclusion just for that. I don't think anyone else will vote for it anyway.

Fearonsarms 01-28-2013 03:58 AM

If it's ok with V as above I'll second Roshiq's backing for The Black Room. Great argument Roshiq :)

_____V_____ 01-28-2013 11:03 AM

Done.

We now have 3 true contenders for the final spot from the 30s - The Ghoul, The Invisible Ray & The Black Room.

This is in addition to the 3 dark horses already backed, 2 by Fearonsarms and 1 by Despare.

Anyone else willing to second one of the contenders to seal the final spot?

realdealblues 01-29-2013 06:07 AM

Out of those 3...I would back The Invisible Ray.

The Ugly Duchess 01-29-2013 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by realdealblues (Post 944278)
Out of those 3...I would back The Invisible Ray.

The same for me.

_____V_____ 01-29-2013 06:44 AM

Thank you, realdealblues and Duchess. We have found our 20th and final film from the 30s. List above is edited accordingly.

We shall move into the 40s in a couple of days, just to give time to others who might be in the process of compiling their last-minute lists for the 40s.

I have received 9 lists for the 40s so far. You have 48 more hours, guys!

_____V_____ 02-03-2013 05:58 AM

For the decade of the 1940s, here's the Summation so far:-

Total number of lists received = 9.

IN THE CUT

Cat People (1942) - 9
The Body Snatcher (1945) - 9

I Walked with a Zombie (1943) - 7
The Wolf Man (1941) - 7

Isle of the Dead (1945) - 6

Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948) - 5
Dead of Night (1945) - 5
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1941) - 5
House of Frankenstein (1944) - 5
Son of Dracula (1943) - 5
The Spiral Staircase (1945) - 5
The Uninvited (1944) - 5



DEBATABLE

Bedlam (1946) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker)
Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker, realdealblues)
Phantom of the Opera (1943) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker)
The Beast with Five Fingers (1946) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker, fortunato)
The Devil Commands (1941) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker)
The Leopard Man (1943) - 4 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker)

Before I Hang (1940) - 3
The Black Cat (1941) - 3
The Corpse Vanishes (1942) - 3
The Fall of the House of Usher - 3
The Ghost of Frankenstein (1942) - 3 (backed by realdealblues)
The Lodger (1944) - 3 (backed by neverending, seconded by Straker)
The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945) - 3
The Seventh Victim (1943) - 3
The Tell-Tale Heart - 3


MINORITY

And Then There Were None (1945) - 2 (-2)
Black Friday (1940) - 2
Daughter of Darkness (1948) - 2
Dr. Cyclops (1940) - 2
Dragonwyck (1946) - 2
House of Dracula - 2
Man Made Monster (1941) - 2
Night Monster (1942) - 2
Rebecca (1940) - 2 (-2)
She-Wolf of London (1946) - 2
The Invisible Man Returns (1940) - 2 (backed by realdealblues)
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow (1949 Animated Short) - 2
The Monkey's Paw - 2
The Mummy's Curse - 2
The Mummy's Hand (1940) - 2 (backed by realdealblues)

A Light in the Window (1942) (Despare)
Black Magic (1944) (The Ugly Duchess)
Bluebeard (1944) (neverending)
Devil Bat's Daughter (1946) (hammerfan)
Dr. Renault's Secret (1942) (The Ugly Duchess)
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors (1943) (neverending)
Hangover Square (1945) (The Ugly Duchess)
I Married a Witch (1942) (fortunato)
King Of The Zombies (1941) (Fearonsarms) (-1)
Son Of Ingagi (1940) (Fearonsarms)
Spooks Run Wild (1941) (fortunato)
The Brute Man (1946) (The Ugly Duchess)
The Devil Bat (1940) (realdealblues)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947) (fortunato) (-2)
The Ghost Breakers (1940) (Despare)
The Ghost Ship (1943) (Despare)
The Invisible Man's Revenge (1944) (realdealblues)
The Jade Mask (1945) (fearonsarms)
The Mad Ghoul (1943) (The Ugly Duchess)
The Mummy's Ghost (1944) (realdealblues)
The Mummy's Tomb (1942) (realdealblues)
The Portrait (1948) (Despare)
The Red House (1947) (The Ugly Duchess)
Valley of the Zombies (1946) (hammerfan) (-1)
Woman Who Came Back (1945) (roshiq)
Yotsuya kaidan (1949) (roshiq)



12 films have made it in, by a vote percentage of over 50%.

We need to select EIGHT more films from the other two sections (preferably from the DEBATABLE section). 6 Honorable Mentions from the rest to be chosen later.

I have posted the names of the HDC-ians who sent in their unique choices, i.e., those which got only 1 vote, and that vote was theirs only.

Please post your reasons for choosing your unique films, your backing for the MINORITY & DEBATABLE selections, and why you feel your chosen ones should be included in the 8 remaining spots.

OR

If everyone is in agreement, we can toss in the SIX choices which got 4 votes each (right now in the DEBATABLE top), and proceed to choose TWO more from the rest. That way we end up with our selected 20.

So, go ahead. Post your views.

neverending 02-03-2013 07:02 AM

I agree with the 6 with 4 votes. I also advocate for The Lodger. Laird Cregar's performance as Jack the Ripper is chilling. It's one of the few Ripper films that isn't gimmicky in some way. It treats the case in a straight forward manner.

I would vote to eliminate both And Then There Were None and Rebecca, as neither of them are horror movies. One is a murder mystery and the other a noir thriller. For the same reason I would eliminate The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. It's what we would now call a paranormal romance.

I would chop out both zombie movies, just because they're really awful films.

Fearonsarms 02-03-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 944498)
I agree with the 6 with 4 votes. I also advocate for The Lodger. Laird Cregar's performance as Jack the Ripper is chilling. It's one of the few Ripper films that isn't gimmicky in some way. It treats the case in a straight forward manner.

I would vote to eliminate both And Then There Were None and Rebecca, as neither of them are horror movies. One is a murder mystery and the other a noir thriller. For the same reason I would eliminate The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. It's what we would now call a paranormal romance.

I would chop out both zombie movies, just because they're really awful films.

If you vote for the six with 4 votes then you are casting six votes out of the EIGHT V said we could cast. Add to that your vote for the lodger and the votes you are trying to cast against films then that is a TOTAL OF 12 VOTES you are casting in this post. V said we could only vote for or against EIGHT films.

Or have I misunderstood this:-

Quote:

We need to select EIGHT more films from the other two sections (preferably from the DEBATABLE section)

_____V_____ 02-06-2013 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearonsarms (Post 944506)
If you vote for the six with 4 votes then you are casting six votes out of the EIGHT V said we could cast. Add to that your vote for the lodger and the votes you are trying to cast against films then that is a TOTAL OF 12 VOTES you are casting in this post. V said we could only vote for or against EIGHT films.

Or have I misunderstood this:-

There's no voting involved here. You can give your opinion as well as to which films can be included/excluded, out of the ones in contention.

We just need to select 8 films from the remaining list, however in the majority.

Any one else willing to back neverending's support of my move? This way, we can seal 6 spots out of the remaining 8, and look to choose 2 from the rest.

Master List adjusted.

Straker 02-06-2013 07:04 AM

I forgot about the 40s debate.... I'll definatly back The Lodger and Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man which I think should both definatly be in the final cut. Also happy to second any of the other 4 vote films, all solid films.

realdealblues 02-06-2013 07:28 AM

I would agree on Removing:
Rebecca (1940)
And Then There Were None (1945)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947)
I don't really think they really fall into what I would consider the Horror realm.

I would back:
Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943)
The Ghost of Frankenstein (1942)

I would also argue I feel "The Invisible Man Returns (1940)" should be up higher. While Vincent Price was in Tower Of London, to me, The Invisible Man Returns really starts his career in Horror and set him on the path to becoming the Horror Icon he became. It's hard to do a movie where the main character is invisible where we are forced to rely on the actors voice to convince and entertain. Vincent Price with his unique voice gave us a performance to cherish.

I would also argue for The Mummy's Hand (1940). While inferior to the original, it was a new idea that allowed the series to continue on in a whole new direction. Dick Foran and Wallace Ford are like a preview of the later Abbott and Costello movies with their comedic performances and while you could argue that adding the "comedy element" to a horror sequel may have started with Bride Of Frankenstein, I think more of what we see today came from ideas that started from this movie.

The others I would back are too low to ever go anywhere but I wanted to at least throw those ideas out there.

_____V_____ 02-06-2013 11:46 AM

Master List edited according to the latest opinions.

Let's hear some more on the debating points raised by realdealblues, and if you are of the same opinion as me, neverending & Straker, feel free to come forth and say so.

_____V_____ 02-10-2013 12:17 AM

Frankenstein meets the Wolf Man will make the cut into the Top 20, sealing it's place.

Anyone else willing to back Neverending and Straker here? Any counter-arguments for realdealblues?

fortunato 02-10-2013 12:07 PM

I'd actually like to back The Beast With Five Fingers, one of the cleverest and most stylish horror films of the decade. A strong, relatively early example of the stylish, low-key look that helps define gothic horror films.

_____V_____ 02-10-2013 09:12 PM

Excellent. The Beast With Five Fingers makes the cut too.

We now have 14 finalised. Six more to go.


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