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massacre man 08-11-2004 07:18 AM

no id rather run if i get sent to war im running i wont put saddam in cuffs and bring to america i see saddam's head sticking out of a hole im shooting him

sugar shane 08-11-2004 01:33 PM

CLIVE BARKER MAKES MOVIES???!!????

Stingy Jack 08-11-2004 02:10 PM

Hmmm .... this thread started out to be pretty interesting. What constitutes a "square" I wonder? Am I a square? I wear a suit, most of the time, for my job. Not because I have to, but because I want to set an example of myself as a figure of professionalism and class for my students. I am a democrat, for the most part, but tend to agree with conservative views in the area of economics.

I grew up and matured in small towns made up mainly of the stereotypical republican, redneck hunter. But I never considered styling my fashion in a way that would purposefully piss off this group, nor did I have a wish to show them that I was not one of them. When someone pisses you off to the extent that you feel the need to model your clothing and hairstyles in an "anti-them" fashion, well, it seems that you are letting them control you to a certain extent. These people don't really earn as a much as a thought when it comes to what I do with my life (let alone my purchasing decisions). Sort of a "live and let live" policy, I suppose. Passively attempting to piss them off really doesn't help relations that much.

Anyway, I think people like horror for a number of reasons. I'm not a misfit ... and I don't think I ever was. Yet, I enjoy horror. Why? Well, unlike Dr. Kelvinstein, I don't relate to the villains on an emotional level (although, this is certainly a valid approach to appreciation of the genre. I do not scoff at it). For me, the villains all stand for some dark side of human nature ... and deciding what, exactly, this dark side is is part of the challenge. Clasic vampires, for example, represent (for me) the human struggle with addiction. Think about it. They appear attractive, seductive, charming ... but can't really hurt you unless you invite them into your home (your body). Once you choose to do this, you are under their power. The more they "suck you dry", the more control they have over you. Horror explores the worst aspects of humanity, and the more frightening the story or film is, the more it tells me about myself.

True, horror, sci-fi and fantasy are normally associated with those people who choose to live a more clandestine lifstyle. But I don't think that these genres should be claimed by these people. Getting upset that a Republican likes horror is like yelling at an imbecile for trying to learn to read. "Reading is not for you! You have your place, and the library is not it!" We should embrace the fact that horror has something to offer to a variety of people. At least, in this light, we know that horror will not soon die out.

Vodstok 08-12-2004 07:33 AM

King of the long post, indeed. We love you stingy :D


ther is an interesting article at the crime library about what makes serial killers tick, and they use horror examples in partof it to describe the types of killers, so they have vampire, wolf-man, jekyl and hyde....


My fiance used this in a presentation she had to do for a psychology class. VEry intersting :)

Sam The Egg 08-12-2004 08:19 AM

Re: What's up with all the stupid political posts on the horror board?
 
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Originally posted by Dr.Kelvinstein
Isn't horror the literary and film equilant of punk rock? As Skipp and Spector once said over a decade ago, horror is the genre to get laid to and piss off your parents. Corporate America doesn't get it and never will. Don't preach to me and I won't preach to you. I might offend you and piss you off--but that's what horror is supposed to do.

Oddly enough, it turns out that horror ISN'T the literary and film equivalent of punk rock. Apparently, and this is just what I heard so it might be wrong, horror is supposed to scare and/or entertain. They have these "independent arthouse" movies to offend and piss people off. As for the getting laid part, who gets turned on by watching this? Know what movies to get laid to and piss off your parents with? Porn.

Dr.Kelvinstein 08-12-2004 08:49 AM

Re: Re: What's up with all the stupid political posts on the horror board?
 
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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Oddly enough, it turns out that horror ISN'T the literary and film equivalent of punk rock. Apparently, and this is just what I heard so it might be wrong, horror is supposed to scare and/or entertain. They have these "independent arthouse" movies to offend and piss people off.
gets .

Sam the Egg--who always thinks he knows more about film than anyone else. Want to go movie trivia with me? I guarantee I know more about movies than you---horror, Western, inde, crime, whatever. I am the consummate film geek, so don't condescend to me.

Ever hear of a movie called Cabinet of Dr Caligari? First survivng full-length horror movie? It was made by some very angry, young Germans in protest against the military, men in suits, and especially war. It sort of set the standards for the whole genre.

Sam The Egg 08-12-2004 12:06 PM

Wow, someone's got sand in their vagina. You realize that any kind of trivia thing is useless over the internet, right? Yes, I've seen Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. Who the hell hasn't? It was used as protest? Whoopty shit. Movies in general have been used as protest. The fact that a horror movie, even the 'first surviving full-length' horror movie, was used as protest doesn't mean shit.

meetthecreeper 08-12-2004 07:25 PM

Just because one does not embrace the BS being pushed by John Kerry and the rest of the Demorats doesnt make one a republican.

Is there any room for libertarians here??

Sam The Egg 08-12-2004 07:58 PM

sure hope so. Down with big government in anything!!!

mothermold 08-12-2004 08:06 PM

can we put this shit to bed.....it's time to get tanked!:cool:


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