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HappyCamper 07-22-2004 11:58 AM

fluffho, sorry didn't mean to attack you.

Arioch 07-22-2004 12:07 PM

We just need to let go of the heresy and bullshit and see marijuana for what it really is....no worse than cigarettes and alcohol....ESPECIALLY not alcohol...

fluffho 07-22-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by HappyCamper
fluffho, sorry didn't mean to attack you.
no biggie

just that theres so much to this is all. example, look how fucked up our meds poilcy is already. prescriptions suck

and with the philippines. the main problem is majority of the druggies there are poor or homeless. i live in mid class sub urbia but just 15 minutes away we've got homeless people all over the place.

its not so much the well off folks but these people that would be very dangerous to give drugs too..

that and america is already ranked 8th best place to live, we've gone down due to low education, work.. etc.

i think we have a lot more problems to deal with before the drug issue

HappyCamper 07-22-2004 01:08 PM

agree with you there fluff, America does have a lot worse problems than illegal drugs...

for instance: that dumb ass we have for President

Vodstok 07-22-2004 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by HappyCamper
Just because a country decides not to outlaw drugs doesn't mean they don't give a shit about their people! What about countries like Jamaica and Holland? I don't see their people living in shitty conditions or fleeing to come here.
Been to Holland. not exactly the cleanest place on earth.... Could be a lot worse though.


The funny thing is... Our president DID illeagle drugs.. in college...

Candy Man 07-22-2004 01:22 PM

I think the kronic needs to be legal. Everyone like smokin some blunts now and then, and putting muthafuckas in jail cause they be having the shit is just all wrong. We be wasting so much time and shit with people arrested for just having an 1/8th. That shit whacked. Cops should be smokin it to. Than they be more mellow and won't be beatin a nigga they see that gots just a dime and shit.

bwind22 07-22-2004 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by HappyCamper
thanks Arioch!

I think it's in Sweden or Norway, that people register as addicts. And I know that in Amsterdam they have 'hash' bars, were you can go and get high! I'm all for both of those here in America!

Canada even decriminalized it. You can go to a hash bar in Vancouver if you want!

My thinking is this... A pretty good chunk of the population smokes weed. (I've never seen any numbers, but I would say a minimum of 20%.) Now those people may lead great lives, go to school, go to work, whatever, but in the eyes of the law they are criminals because they like to smoke a joint when they get home from a long day of work. That's simply stupid.

The fact that it is currently illegal, yet so many people smoke leads me to believe that stiff penalties are not a deterent.

How about if our government pulled their fucking heads out of their asses for once and consider a change of ideas? Instead of arresting harmless potheads and then complaining about overcrowding in the prisons, why not legalize it? Register the users (18+ only), charge a tax (this could be used to reduce our enormous debt). Then, 'the man' would know who's smokin and how much as well as who's selling, not to mention taking in a tidy profit.

Now that's my view on recreational usage. Medical and industrial is an even easier arguement to make. Instead of bitching about people cutting down forests so much for paper products, let's grow hemp fields. Hemp is a faaaar more effective form of producing paper products than lumber. (Interesting side note: Reefer Madness, the movie that played a critical role in getting weed outlawed in the first place, was hugely endorsed by William Randolph Heart, who owned a newspaper company and had a good deal of interest in the lumber companies.)

The medical benefits of it are for anyone to refute. Surely you can't justify calling a deathly ill cancer/chemo patient wanting to hit a joint to ease the immense pain they are in, a criminal, can you? It has also been proven to help reduce glaucoma.

California has already semi-decriminalized it. Nevada won't be far behind, but how long until the rest of the country figures it out?

feral cat 07-22-2004 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by HappyCamper
Just because a country decides not to outlaw drugs doesn't mean they don't give a shit about their people! What about countries like Jamaica and Holland? I don't see their people living in shitty conditions or fleeing to come here.
weed is illegal as fuck in Jamaca, because the US goverment makes sure pressure is put on them!!!

bwind22 07-22-2004 10:00 PM

Anyone notice that The Man deleted my 'Predict the next terrorist attack' thread?

What? We can't talk about terrorism now? I thought this was a free country.

:p

bloodrayne 07-22-2004 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by bwind22
Anyone notice that The Man deleted my 'Predict the next terrorist attack' thread?

What? We can't talk about terrorism now? I thought this was a free country.

:p

I thought you may have been mistaken...But...I checked...You're right...It wasn't even flaming...and no Darth...Strange :confused:


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