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_____V_____ 07-31-2012 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 929976)
Dr. Loomis is not the leading character, that would be Laurie, so yes

No heroes, heroines or villains.

Laurie is the female lead, and Loomis is basically the male lead, Myers the villain. Remember their characters recur throughout the series.

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 929976)
Captain Spaulding, is definitely a side character, so yes

Spaulding, Otis and Baby are the 3 leads of the second film. I can include him for House of 1000 Corpses alone, though.

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 929976)
Granny Boone, how you could consider her a lead role is beyond me, I still say yes.

My bad, I should have said female lead antagonist.

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Luke from the Innkeepers, Claire is obviously the lead and Luke barely does anything, so yes.

Nevertheless, the male lead of the film.

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The Stranger, he is in no way the main antagonist, so he is a yes

In the context of the film, he sure is.

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 929976)
Disagree with me if you like but I feel confident that I am right on these. I will only accept a character as a co-lead if said character has just as much air time as the main lead like in Men in Black, Will Smith is the main lead and Tommy Lee Jones is the co-lead.

Protagonists (main, joined, couple) both male & female, and antagonists (either male/female or both) are to be excluded. Purely supporting characters are to be considered here. Someone, like the cat lady from Jeepers Creepers or Mrs Dudley from The Haunting, cannot be compared to other choices listed above.

Bob Gray 07-31-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 929978)
No heroes, heroines or villains.

Laurie is the female lead, and Loomis is basically the male lead, Myers the villain. Remember their characters recur throughout the series.



Spaulding, Otis and Baby are the 3 leads of the second film. I can include him for House of 1000 Corpses alone, though.



My bad, I should have said female lead antagonist.



Nevertheless, the male lead of the film.



In the context of the film, he sure is.



Protagonists (main, joined, couple) both male & female, and antagonists (either male/female or both) are to be excluded. Purely supporting characters are to be considered here. Someone, like the cat lady from Jeepers Creepers or Mrs Dudley from The Haunting, cannot be compared to other choices listed above.

No Loomis is not the male lead, he is a supporting character.

I agree about Captain Spaulding, he is a supporting character in Ho1000C but a co-lead in DR

Granny Boone I supposed could be called a co-lead antagonist

I don't go for female and male leads, they are either the lead or a co-lead, Luke is neither.

The Stranger isn't even the main antagonist, that would be the head vampire, so yes

Oh, I changed my mind about Dr. Markoway, Elenore is the lead, Markoway is a supporting character

The Villain 07-31-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 929980)
No Loomis is not the male lead, he is a supporting character.

I gotta agree with V. Loomis is definitely the male lead. Now the sheriff in the remake, he would be a side character.

Bob Gray 07-31-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 930013)
I gotta agree with V. Loomis is definitely the male lead. Now the sheriff in the remake, he would be a side character.

The male lead is Michael Myers

The Villain 07-31-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 930015)
The male lead is Michael Myers

No he's the Villain. A totally different thing.

Has anyone said Rod, Glen or Nancy's father from Nightmare on Elm Street?

Bob Gray 07-31-2012 03:39 PM

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No he's the Villain. A totally different thing.

Has anyone said Rod, Glen or Nancy's father from Nightmare on Elm Street?

Now wait a minute, V and I agreed on the fact that Spaulding, Otis, and Baby were the leads in The Devil's Rejects, yet they are villains. Now you're trying to say that a villain can't be the lead. Hypocrisy!

The Villain 07-31-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 930018)
Now wait a minute, V and I agreed on the fact that Spaulding, Otis, and Baby were the leads in The Devil's Rejects, yet they are villains. Now you're trying to say that a villain can't be the lead. Hypocrisy!

Not only were they the villains but the movie was about them. Like in A Clockwork Orange, Alex is the villain but it's also about him. Halloween isn't about Micheal Myers, he's just the villain.

Bob Gray 07-31-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 930019)
Not only were they the villains but the movie was about them. Like in A Clockwork Orange, Alex is the villain but it's also about him. Halloween isn't about Micheal Myers, he's just the villain.

Like hell Halloween isn't about Michael Myers, he's is in every one of them but one. When I watch Halloween I root for Michael, same goes for Jason and Freddy. They are the villains but in many horror fans eyes, they are also the heroes. Therefore, to me, your argument is invalid.

The Villain 07-31-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gray (Post 930020)
Like hell Halloween isn't about Michael Myers, he's is in every one of them but one. When I watch Halloween I root for Michael, same goes for Jason and Freddy. They are the villains but in many horror fans eyes, they are also the heroes. Therefore, to me, your argument is invalid.

It doesn't matter if they're the heroes in peoples eyes at all or if you root for them. If you start using that logic, then every movie is debatable. It's about how the movie portrays them. He is the villain plain and simple. You are not watching Micheal Myer's story unfold like you are The Firefly family in Devil's Rejects. You are watching Myer's victims as they are stalked by him. They are the leads, he is the villain.

Bob Gray 07-31-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 930021)
It doesn't matter if they're the heroes in peoples eyes at all or if you root for them. If you start using that logic, then every movie is debatable. It's about how the movie portrays them. He is the villain plain and simple. You are not watching Micheal Myer's story unfold like you are The Firefly family in Devil's Rejects. You are watching Myer's victims as they are stalked by him. They are the leads, he is the villain.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, to me, Halloween is the story of Michael Myers and how he progresses from just being a psychotic killer to a demon.


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