a lot of people wont admit to that... But they know it is true... I personally dont care if it is a gimmick or shit.. We all know that it is.. Still has catchy songs IMO

Tainted Love is a good remake.. better than the original

For some people though, they have to look past the gimmicks. I know people who refuse to listen to bands like Slipknot, Mushroomhead and The Berzerker because they wear masks. Other people see his satanism/atheism as a gimmick... cause in some songs he denounces God and in others he claims God doesn't exist.

Anyway, your call.

Excuse me but I know ALOT about Satanism. I'm a High Priest!!

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lets see if i can go one post w/o attracting trolls
 

i like manson, though i can agree whole heartedly that his earlier shit is better. i like his new stuff too. but really the old stuff is the best.

as far as a gimmick. i dont think he is at all. hes been doin the same shit since day one when they werent shit but a local florida band. the whole concept of the band is to stirr shit up. look at the names. all model and a serial killers. the concept of the definition of beauty and horror is a central theme of the band, as is controversy. it always has been.

while i was sad to hear of ramirez's departure from the band i was excitied to see that tim skold had joined the line up (though im sure arioch might be the only other person here who knows skolds work).

the bottom line here is that if you dont like his music/imagery thats fine. everyone has their own tastes. but saying the whole thing is a gimmick is just plain ignorant, seeing that most of the fools saying this are about as familiar with his body of work as i am aerophysics.

I'm familiar with all his works, Watch the movie Velvet goldmine, then look at his Mechanical Animals Album. Compare the two and you will learn that he is full of it. You can also look to his downward trend in actual lyric writing as his albums progress, in corilation to the original members leaving.

agreed about velvet goldmine. even manson himself said that album was a glam rock tribute. well even though we dissagree, im glad you back up your opinion with knowledge. I felt that his last album had great lyrics. And you know what people change, and manson is all about reinvention. he always has been. either way after i saw bowling for columbine i gained some respect for him as a person and not just some rock star. but whatever. Im glad you backed up your argument instead of being like

"manson is a faggot. and youre a fucking moron for liking him. fuck you."

that attitude seems to be common around these parts.

Lol, yeah I know of a few people like that around here.

IMO his first album was his best, Superstar and SMC are good albums, but I think the first one is still the best and most...dirty.

Heh, as funny as it is to see people write things like "ur 2 old to undastand the brilaince of slipknot and im mad (sic)", you need proper arguments. Unit 03 has said what I always thought was true, but was never 100% sure. Hopefully I'll sleep better tonight.

I still say Manson is pretty cool.
Has anyone here read the book on his life.
It was way cool!

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I read it, it wasnt even entirely written by him. I think some guy from rolling stone helped him write it.:rolleyes:

The funniest part was when them and NIN were in a van together and someone puked, then they started throwing puke at eachother. LMAO that was funny shit.