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MythMan84 02-04-2004 04:32 PM

dude knife y did you come to this thread if you just came here to bitch on and on and on about how you didnt like it you preppy punk

PsychoticPanda 02-04-2004 06:18 PM

Re: Donnie Darko
 
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Originally posted by MythMan84
Awesome movie, kinda confusing but really kewl ifyou understand it. Anyone else like it?
I looove that movie. I had to watch it with the commentary on the DVD to get a couple (small) things, but it's really good and everyone should see it.

EEEEEVVVVVVEEEEERRRRRRYYYYYYOOOONNNNNEEEEE!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

knife_fight 02-04-2004 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by MythMan84
dude knife y did you come to this thread if you just came here to bitch on and on and on about how you didnt like it you preppy punk
wtf? that was pretty much out of left field

Hate_Breeder 02-04-2004 08:00 PM

One of the best movies Ive seen in years!

nightbreed 02-05-2004 01:26 AM

ey knife fight-

when you said that Donnie Darko was a "poseur" (i even spelled it right), i was just wondering what movie it was/is posing off of. Personally i quite like this film. And really past all the mumbo jumbo timetravel stuff- to me it was about sacraficing for those you love. True not a new concept, but hey, if you thought it was that terrible, how bout write a script, get funding, make the movie, and then if its better than Donnie Darko- then maybe youll have some space to talk shit.

knife_fight 02-05-2004 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by nightbreed
ey knife fight-

when you said that Donnie Darko was a "poseur" (i even spelled it right), i was just wondering what movie it was/is posing off of. Personally i quite like this film. And really past all the mumbo jumbo timetravel stuff- to me it was about sacraficing for those you love. True not a new concept, but hey, if you thought it was that terrible, how bout write a script, get funding, make the movie, and then if its better than Donnie Darko- then maybe youll have some space to talk shit.

Ok, first off the spelling of "poseur" has changed over the past 30 years. Any student of language could tell you that. Linguistics, motherfucker!!! Not only that, but even if I had spelled it wrong, trying to insult a person on a message board because they spelled something wrong is really weak. Obviously I could have pointed out several grammatical errors in your post, but I'm an adult and feel like I'm past that. What movie is it "POSING" off of??? I thought I made it clear that I felt like Donnie Darko was
"POSING" as a thought-provoking, important piece of art. At least, that's what it was passed on to me as.

The part about how I should make a movie and then I could talk shit: let me get this straight. What you are basically saying is, "Unless you have made ONE movie yourself, you cannot say that you DON'T LIKE any one movie." Did I get that right? Because if I did, THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO GODDAM SENSE. You know it doesn't. Search in your heart for the truth and you will find it is there. The critical mind is something that many people possess: political analysts, social activists, literary scholars, art critics, etc. It is the ability to point out what is wrong, but then not have any real, tangible solutions for how to fix it... or in this case, make a better movie. If you really do feel this way, you shouldn't be on a message board that is based on how people view different expressions of the horror genre.

If I had known so many people's vaginas would start bleeding because I said I didn't like this movie, I certainly would not have stated my opinion in the first place.

Sam the Eggg, WHERE ARE YOU??? I'm tired of people who want to argue but have nothing to say!!! You're not boring, I take it back!!!!! Just please, come back with something that makes sense!!! Also, after much deliberation, I have decided to concede the fact that, at their base elements, no movie has said anything new within the past ten years. However, I would go back farther than ten years, maybe forever. This does not alter the fact that this movie has a reputation for being something it is not. It also does not change the (other) fact that the movie leaves many loose ends never tied. But going back to the "critical mind" thing, I feel like there are two different ways of viewing a movie: 1. as pure entertainment. This is the mindset I got into when I put in Freddy vs. Jason two nights ago. It's the "I'm off of work so I'm going to turn off my brain and enjoy this movie as shallowly as I possibly can." Other examples of pure entertainment are: Ski School 2, any Jackie Chan movie, the Exterminator... you get the idea.
#2. the "Film is an important medium for art and thus change" mindset is a treacherous one. It is one that, to me, is not to be toyed with. It begins when I am handed or recommended a movie under the pretext that it is "good art" (whatever the fuck that is). That is when my critical mind goes into high gear, and if a movie is not absolutely done 100% right, it is automatically thrashed. To shorten an already long post, I won't go into what makes a 100% movie, but it is what makes movies go through that wonderfully pretentious transformation from "movie" to "film."

Ok, sorry to get into that, but I felt like it was important for my would-be detractors to know where I'm coming from with this movie.

I hate artsy people.

BudMan 02-05-2004 08:16 AM

Movies,like music, are subjective. This forum is suppose to be about opinions , no? knife_fight expressed his or her opinion most elegantly and gets bashed for it. If we all had the same taste in movies this would be a pretty boring forum.

nightbreed 02-05-2004 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by knife_fight
Ok, first off the spelling of "poseur" has changed over the past 30 years. Any student of language could tell you that. Linguistics, motherfucker!!! Not only that, but even if I had spelled it wrong, trying to insult a person on a message board because they spelled something wrong is really weak. Obviously I could have pointed out several grammatical errors in your post, but I'm an adult and feel like I'm past that. What movie is it "POSING" off of??? I thought I made it clear that I felt like Donnie Darko was
"POSING" as a thought-provoking, important piece of art. At least, that's what it was passed on to me as.

The part about how I should make a movie and then I could talk shit: let me get this straight. What you are basically saying is, "Unless you have made ONE movie yourself, you cannot say that you DON'T LIKE any one movie." Did I get that right? Because if I did, THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO GODDAM SENSE. You know it doesn't. Search in your heart for the truth and you will find it is there. The critical mind is something that many people possess: political analysts, social activists, literary scholars, art critics, etc. It is the ability to point out what is wrong, but then not have any real, tangible solutions for how to fix it... or in this case, make a better movie. If you really do feel this way, you shouldn't be on a message board that is based on how people view different expressions of the horror genre.

i said goddamn nashville! calm down man. its cool that your backing up your opinions- thats more than half the people on here do. most would just be like "that movie was stupid b/c its stupid". So we disagree. Who cares? The point about making a film i was trying to make is that making a film that is original, thought provoking, and emotionally stirring is no easy task. thats all man.
I hate artsy people.

HappyCamper 02-05-2004 12:16 PM

actually if you think about it, every movie ever made, can be based on two maybe really 3 basic stories, that have existed throughout history.

1.) a stranger comes to town

2.) our character(s) go on a journey

3.) a combination of 1&2.


and actually, if you think about this, almost every story, steals/borrows ideas,concepts from another.

Sam The Egg 02-05-2004 01:50 PM

actually, there are seven basic stories/themes
Man vs. Man
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. Self
Man vs. Environment
Man vs. God/religion
Man vs. Supernatural
Man vs. Technology

Although there's also the 37 plots theory:
Supplication (in which the Supplicant must beg something from Power in authority)
Deliverance
Crime Pursued by Vengeance
Vengeance taken for kindred upon kindred
Pursuit
Disaster
Falling Prey to Cruelty of Misfortune
Revolt
Daring Enterprise
Abduction
The Enigma (temptation or a riddle)
Obtaining
Enmity of Kinsmen
Rivalry of Kinsmen
Murderous Adultery
Madness
Fatal Imprudence
Involuntary Crimes of Love (example: discovery that one has married one's mother, sister, etc.)
Slaying of a Kinsman Unrecognized
Self-Sacrificing for an Ideal
Self-Sacrifice for Kindred
All Sacrificed for Passion
Necessity of Sacrificing Loved Ones
Rivalry of Superior and Inferior
Adultery
Crimes of Love
Discovery of the Dishonor of a Loved One
Obstacles to Love
An Enemy Loved
Ambition
Conflict with a God
Mistaken Jealousy
Erroneous Judgement
Remorse
Recovery of a Lost One
Loss of Loved Ones.
Mistaken Identity


But I tend to go with the seven plots


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