True, they have definitely made him a more serious character since his "unveiling."

I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE MASK I JUST THINK IT'S THE WAY THEY WRITE OUT HIS STORY LINES WHEN HE'S ACTING LIKE ''THE BIG RED MACHINE'' HE'S GOOD AND WHEN HE'S TALKING TO THE ''KANANITES HE GETS HIS ASS KICKED.

My fav. wrestlers of all-time are:

#1 The Ultimate Warrior

#2 Mankind

# 3 Kane

Kane is definitely better without his mask on. I just don't believe he was ever burned. I mean where are the scars or where is his skin underneath him. The only reason he ever worn the mask is because he is ugly. He probably isn't ugly , they probably put makeup on him.

Hmm, wrestling is fake. It was just a storyline. ;)

He was also Isaac Yankum, D.D.S. and the fake Diesel.

Yes, wrestling has no past. Once upon a time he was burned over 90% of his body and he couldn't talk. Now he appears to be just fine and can talk all he wants too. Anyone remember when X-Pac just took that stupid voice box thing from him and said you don't need that anymore and then Kane could talk just fine? WTF?? Funny as hell.

Oh yeah, I just saw Jackie's nipple on Raw. Her boob totally just fell out on national tv.

KANE IS WAS THAT FAKE DEISEL WHO JR ANNOUNCED LIKE 5 YEARS AGO.

My friend told me that Kane was actually the Undertaker when he first came to the wwe. I don't believe him. Hell, I barely believe any of the shit that comes out of his mouth. Just in case u were wondering his name is Devon.

So who thinks Austin is gone forever? :p

He'll come back in like 5 years. It's gonna be a long wait. I'll forget about him soon. Can't wait till Edge comes back. Better be soon.

AUSTIN IS'NT GOING TO BE GONE FOR THAT LONG DON'T BELIEVE ME GO TO WWW.WRESTLINGATTITUDE.COM THEY TELL YOU THE WHOLE STORY AND ALOT OF OTHER STUFF.

Raw Roullette is tonight. Hell Yeah!:D

AFTER SURVIVOR SERIES RAW'S RATINGS WENT DOWN FROM 15 MILLION TO 3.6 MILLION.

ONE REASON ONE REASON ONLY.

AUSTIN WAS'NT SUPPOSE TO BE THERE.

i can do with out austin he's not a wrestler he's simply a character. true fan's of pro wrestling watch wrestling good wrestling not this bra and panties crap. i mean it's fun but when i wan to watch wrestling that's what i want to see. i can appreciate the entertainment part of it but wwe just go's overboard.

YOU KNOW THAT NONE OF THIS (TNA-WWE-OVW ECT. ECT.)IS ACTUALLY PRO WRESTLING PRO WRESTLING IS THE OLYMPICS AND WHERE EVER THE HELL GRECO ROMAN WRESTLING TAKES PLACE. BUT AS FOR WWE AND ALL THE OTHER WRESTLING PROMOTIONS IT'S JUST FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT.

I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT AUSTIN IS THE BEST WRESTLER IN WWE HISTORY.

no aj styles, rey mysterio junior, jerry lynn, rob van damn, ricky steamboat. that my friend is wrestling. if you consider austin to be the best you are what i call the occasional wrestling fan who appreciates the entertainment part of it. because that is what steve austin is if you are telling me that yo like him because of his "wrestling" ability i really don't know what to tell you? because he is not by any mean's a great wrestler. he got over because of his acting because he is good at the entertainment part of it. that's all.

damien u are dead wrong. sure austin was great at acting but he was also very good at wrestling. IMO he is the best wrestler and will be remembered. He is already in the legends book. He made history. And that's the bottom line, cause Stone Cold said so.

ok can u name four moves that stone cold does that is impressive.................... no i didnt think so. either you guy's don't know what true good wrestling is or you never really watched it. do u ever hear people say wow that stone cold did one hell of a dropkick last night? no u hear man he drink's them beer's like they were nothin or did you hear what he said to vince mcmahon. the truth is and you know it you like him because of his attitude and his character that by no mean's make 's you a great wreslter. im sure you think hulk hogan is a great wreslter too? another example of someone who wasn't great at wrestling but was extremely popular because of his look and his character.

shut the fuck up damien u cocksucker. I'll name u four moves that stone cold does that are cool.
1. Stone Cold Stunner
2.boston crab
3.lou thez press
4. sleeper hold
So there. now shut your god damn fucking mouth u assclown.by way, hulk hogan was cool. sure he wasn't that good of a wrestler but he could hulk up and make the fans go wild.

damien,

Did you ever see Austin wrestle as Stunning Steve in WCW (think it was also still NWA when he first started wrestling there)? He was a great wrestler before injuries. He could pull off just about any wrestling move that did not involve high flying.

I noticed you only listed (with the possible exception of Steamboat) guys that can do incredible high impact physical acts, but most (again, with the exception of Steamboat) have no idea how to work the psychology side of a match.

Flair was the greatest wrestler of all time because he could work the psychology side and the pace of the match better than anyone else that has ever lived. This also applies to HBK when he was easily the best North American wrestler in the 90s. This is where Austin now excels. No one in the business can work the psychology side of a match like Austin. THAT, my friend, is wrestling.

There is more to wrestling than just performing gymnastics with another person like Van Damn does. Van Damn wouldn't know how to work the mental aspect of a match even if Flair spent a year personally trying to teach him.

NirvanNole is completely right. Stone Cold, Ric Flair, and Shawn Micheals were so good with physical wrestling. It would take RVD a long time to learn physical wrestling. So there damien, now shut your mouth.

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did u accidently press the post reply button? Those buttons are to damn close.

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my fav.wrestler.it is undertaker hhh stone cold

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the undertaker ,hhh,brock lesnar,kane,kevin nash

oh ya those moves are so damn hard. that's exactly what im talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he does nothing that set's him apart form the rest. what's up with the verbal assault? are u like 12? i didn't swear at you dude ,what's your problem? you think stone cold is great i don't who care's. ask any serious fan and he will understand exactly where im comin from. stone cold is not a wrestler. but i will agree that when he was in his wcw and ecw day's he was good.

first stone cold is a good wrestler. second I am 12. Third let's talk about somebody else.

ok

how about we talk about Rodney Mack. Where the hell is he?:confused: anybody know?

I see you have little regard for ring psychology, damien. You might as well just watch gymnastics with some of the wrestlers you listed. It appears obvious that you equate high flying moves as what a wrestler should be, and do not take into account how that wrestler can work a match. There is not a wrestler alive that can pace a match better than Austin, nor use ring psychology like he can.

Perhaps you should see interviews of what Flair, HBK, and Bret Hart think of Austin. They've all stated he is as good as any wrestler within the last 10 years when it comes to wrestling a complete match. You do not have to perform a high impact move from the top rope in order to wrestle a great match. But then again, perhaps those three wouldn't qualify as "any serious fan" in your book.

ok ok nirvana i completly understand what you are trying to say. you obviously know what you are talking about. i will admit i enjoy watching the high flyers and high risk wrestlers more than anything. maybe that is why i don't really care for austin. while i do respect him he is good at what he does but when ever i watch him wrestle all i see him do is punch, kick, a occasional clothesline. the gorrila press what ever the hell you call it when he jumps on the guy and start's punching . im not saying he has to do a high flying move but he realy doesn't perform any outstanding(wrestling moves)

damien does have a point there. IMO I think Austin should try to some high flying moves. now that would be cool.

well i don't think he can do any high flying stuff he is falling apart. too many injuries.

i know that damien but if he could do some high flying moves wouldn't that be cool?

WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT WHAT HE WAS GOOD AT WRESTLING IS NOT REAL IT DOES'NT MATTER IF HE CAN DO A PERFECT DROP KICK OR IF HE CAN'T EVEN DO A HEADLOCK PROPERLY HE HAS BEEN IN SOME OF THE TOP MATCHES IN WWE HISTORY AND YOU'RE RIGHT MAYBE HE CAN'T DO WHAT RIC FLAIR OR ROB VAN DAM CAN DO BUT HE STILL PUTS ON A GREAT MATCH WITH THE SKILLS HE HAS JUST LIKE THE UNDERTAKER HE CAN'T WRESTLE HE JUST GOES OUT TO THE RING AND STARTS SWINGING HIS FIST BUT HIS MATCHES ARE GREAT LIKE THE RIVALRY HE HAD WITH MANKIND THAT'S ONE PERSON WHO DOES'NT HAVE A OUNCE OF ATHLETIC ABILITY BUT HIS MATCHES ARE GOOD AS WELL CAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO PUT ON A SHOW AND THAT'S ALL IT IS IS A SHOW SO WHO CARES WHO HAS THE BEST ARSENAL OF MOVES OR WHO CAN DO THE BEST DROP KICK OR SUPLEX IT'S ENTERTAINMENT AND STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN IS ENTERTAINING BOTH ON THE MICROPHONE AND IN THE RING WHICH IS WHY HE IS A SEVEN TIME WWE CHAMPION AND THE MOST POPULAR WRESTLER EVER BESIDES PROBABLY HULK HOGAN WHY DO YOU THINK BILLY GUNN HAS BEEN IN THE WWE FOR TEN YEARS AND HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING MORE THAN BE A TAG TEAM COMPETITER HE'S GOT A IC REIGN AND A KING OF THE RING WIN UNDER HIS BELT BUT THAT'S NOT MUCH FOR TEN YEARS. RIC FLAIR SIXTEEN TIME WORLD CHAMPION WHY CAUSE HE'S A FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND TECHNICAL WRESTLER NO CAUSE HE'S ENTERTAINING HOW MANY TITLE REIGNS YOU HAVE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR WRESTLING ABILITY IT'S WEATHER YOU CAN ENTERTAIN OR NOT SERIOUSLY CAN YOU PICTURE MARK HENRY OR STEVEN RICHARDS WITH THE TITLE CAUSE I SURE CAN'T (NOT EXAMPLES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POINT ABOUT GOOD WRESTLERS) THAT WOULD BE BORING AS HELL THAT'S EXACTLY THE REASON WHY AUSTIN,TAKER,HOGAN ECT. ECT. ARE ALWAYS IN THE TITLE PICTURE CAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST ENTERTAINING.


NOW AFTER ALL OF THAT I GUESS THE POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT GOOD WRESTLING I WANT A SHOW.

damn austin! u proved a damn good point. hell u still have me in shock. I never thought of it that way. good speech.

damien,

That's fine if you prefer high flying wrestlers, but I think you should be able to admit other styles of wrestling. There are many different areas a wrestler can be skilled at and be a good performer in the ring. Would you consider Flair, HBK, Hart, etc., good wrestlers? None of them are high flyers, but all of them know how to work a match. Same with Foley. He may be none for doing insane things, but he also knew how to work a match with the best of them.

But you're right, Austin's physical abilities aren't that great anymore. He was never a high flyer, but he used to be able to do any ground oriented move in wrestling when he was younger. Him and Pillman were amazing as a team. Unfortunately both had serious injuries and had to change their style. I think that forced both of them to develop their mic skills and ring psychology. They, and HBK/Flair, are probably my four favorite wrestlers of all time.

For the record, I do like Van Damn, Rey, etc., but none of them can work the emotional side of a match like Austin. I enjoy their matches for what they are, incredible physical acts that few men can do.

Also, I've hated Hogan with a passion since I was a little kid. We can agree on that point. Oddly, I used to love the Ultimate Warrior and he was only a tad better than Hogan in the ring lol.

austin316............... my point exactly you want a show i want wrestling. and you obviously don't know what you are talking about because there is nothin fake about wrestling. by you saying what you said in your last post just proves my original point you don't know what wrestling . that is why you favor guy's like austin he's a entertainer that's it!!!!!!!!! he was in his early day's very good but not anymore.

yeah that's what i was trying to say in the first place austin is very limited to what he can do, he get's over because of his character. it is so obvious why can't you guy' understnd this? and yes i d appreciate guy's like flair and hbk and hart. but austin on the other hand ......... drink's his beer's uses the middle finger does his punches his kicks and hten finally the stuner thats all he does.

You're commenting on his interviews and not his actual matches. How many PPV matches have you seen of Austin over the years? If you think his matches are purely what you described, then you're letting your personal feelings on him cloud your judgment. The man sells moves better than anyone you listed (even including Steamboat in his prime).

Seriously, go rent the Wrestlemania he lost to Bret Hart when he passed out. If you can watch that match and still think all he does is what you just mentioned, you're nuts, Damien. ;)

You have to remember Austin needs to have a decent opponent to have a chance at a great match. He hasn't exactly been able to wrestle a good wrestler recently.


On another note, what do you think of Chris Benoit? He can't do many high risk moves, so I'm curious to see your opinion on him. Is he a better wrestler than RVD?