IMDB has a strange way of categorizing films. It tends to label mysteries and detective films as horror, when they are not. I don't think the Charlie Chan films belong on the list.


First draft of my list came to exactly 20 films, so no editing needed. Still, the 30s were one of the greatest decades for horror, and a lot of worthy entries will have to be overlooked.

If Maniac doesn't make it, I'm staging a protest.

And a lot of these films don't have a premise which is exactly horror, per se. Still, as a base for a master list, it's the only reliable source on hand.


Each movie nominated and ending the round with 1 vote will be given a chance. The chooser will be asked to put forth their argument/reasons for choosing that film, and they can ask for popular opinion based on their reasons. If more than 5 people are in favor, it will be marked. If not, it will be discarded.


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Three lists have already come in thick and fast - neverending, hammerfan & Fearonsarms, thank you for submitting your choices so quickly. Let's see some more lists before Christmas fever takes over, folks!

Decisions, decisions....

It's almost worth not voting for it just to see the nature of the protest. :cool:

The Most Dangerous Game,
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse,
& the Spanish Dracula
...though I have them in my collection but still haven't seen them yet.:o
I'll send my list as soon as I check them out soon.

The 4th list of 20 choices from the 30s has come in - thank you, fortunato.

Expecting to see at least 6 more lists before Christmas! Come on, gang!

I'm gonna have to put my list together after christmas now, but I havent forgotten!

Now that Christmas is over, let's see those lists people!

Totally dragging my heels on this one, sorry... Christmas has me a little behind the pace!

I'll get on it though, don't end the voting for this decade without me, please! :cool:

Don't worry, Straker. Voting for any era won't be ended until we have crossed all the decades of horror.

In fact, voting for the 1st era (1890s-1920s) is still open, for anyone wishing to submit their list.

Even if someone logs in very late and goes through this thread, he/she can submit their lists for ALL the decades of horror, if they choose to. Voting is open till we close the final decade (2000-2010).


Thank you for submitting the 5th list for the 30s, Despare. :)

Let's see some more before the New Year rolls in, people!

Thank you for submitting the 6th list of 20 choices, roshiq.

Still eagerly waiting to see your choices, folks!

Big Thanks to the Duchess for submitting the 7th list of choices.

The New Year is upon us, folks! Let's see your lists as well!

Sent mine in. :cool:

The 8th list for the 30s has come in, thank you Chronogrl. You can submit your choices for the 20s as well. (same for you, Despare, love to see your list of the 20s as well)

Still eagerly awaiting The Villain and Straker's lists, as well as anyone else's who is willing to submit one. I am extending this till the 6th of January, when we have our first peek at the 40s, before starting our debate on the first era of horror - 1897 to 1949.

Hmmm... Not sure if I've seen that many from the 20s, which is why I didn't resubmit it before. Let me check again. I was surprised at how many I had seen from the 30s.

Here's the list from the 1890s to the 1920s - http://www.horror.com/forum/showthre...t=57593&page=7

For the benefit of those who haven't submitted their list for the 30s.

Thanks - Done!

Thank you, Chronogrl, for submitting your choices for the 20s as well.

Let's see those lists of yours, people!

To everyone who may be struggling with that decade (and the earlier films) - You don't necessarily have to have seen the movies you pick - as V said earlier in the thread - you can just have read about many of these films and their inpact on horror. Some though are public domain and are still widely available to watch on the internet. But some haven't survived and are completely lost but that shouldn't exclude them-they still had a huge impact on the horror genre as a whole.

Here's what V said:-

Yep - I included a few I hadn't seen but had heard or read about. Or ones whose titles I thought sounded cool. ;)

Nice one I can't wait to see everyone's choices :)

And the 9th list has come in. Thank you, Straker. Finally!

Two more days before we move into the 40s, the last decade for this early era of horror. Let's see your lists, folks!

LAST SET OF THE FIRST ERA - THE 40s

Here's the third set of films, through 1940 up to 1949.

Again, those films which did not get even a single vote on IMDB have been omitted.

A few noteworthy short films (some animated) have been added again.


Choose 20 from the following and send me your PM:

A Light in the Window (1942)
And Then There Were None (1945)
Bedlam (1946)
Before I Hang (1940)
Black Friday (1940)
Black Magic (1944)
Bluebeard (1944)
Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)
Calling Dr. Death (1943)
Captive Wild Woman (1943)
Castle Sinister (1948)
Cat People (1942)
Crazy Knights (1944)
Cry of the Werewolf (1944)
Daughter of Darkness (1948)
Dead Man's Eyes (1944)
Dead Men Walk (1943)
Dead of Night (1945)
Devil Bat's Daughter (1946)
Devil Monster (1946)
Dr. Cyclops (1940)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1941)
Dr. Renault's Secret (1942)
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors (1943)
Dragonwyck (1946)
Fog Island (1945)
Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943)
Ghost Catchers (1944)
Gildersleeve's Ghost (1944)
Hangover Square (1945)
Hay muertos que no hacen ruido (1946)
Herencia macabra (1940)
Horror Island (1941)
House of Darkness (1948)
House of Dracula (1945)
House of Frankenstein (1944)
House of Horrors (1946)
I Married a Witch (1942)
I Walked with a Zombie (1943)
Invisible Ghost (1941)
Isle of the Dead (1945)
Jungle Woman (1944)
King of the Zombies (1941)
La herencia de la Llorona (1947)
La main du diable (1943)
La torre de los siete jorobados (1944)
Lady of Burlesque (1943)
Le loup des Malveneur (1943)
Linnaisten vihreä kamari (1945)
Man in Black (1949)
Man Made Monster (1941)
Man with Two Lives (1942)
Master Minds (1949)
Night Monster (1942)
Nijiotoko (1949)
O Louco (1945)
Old Mother Riley's Ghosts (1941)
One Body Too Many (1944)
Phantom of the Opera (1943)
Pillow of Death (1945)
Rebecca (1940)
Return of the Ape Man (1944)
Revenge of the Zombies (1943)
Sanbon yubi no otoko (1947)
Secret Beyond the Door... (1947)
She-Wolf of London (1946)
Son of Dracula (1943)
Son of Ingagi (1940)
Sortilèges (1945)
Spooks Run Wild (1941)
Spuk im Schloß (1947)
Strange Confession (1945)
Strangler of the Swamp (1946)
The Ape (1940)
The Ape Man (1943)
The Beast with Five Fingers (1946)
The Black Cat (1941)
The Body Snatcher (1945)
The Boogie Man Will Get You (1942)
The Brute Man (1946)
The Catman of Paris (1946)
The Climax (1944)
The Corpse Vanishes (1942)
The Creeper (1948)
The Curse of the Wraydons (1946)
The Devil Bat (1940)
The Devil Commands (1941)
The Door with Seven Locks (1940)
The Face of Marble (1946)
The Fall of the House of Usher (1949)
The Feathered Serpent (1948)
The Flying Serpent (1946)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947)
The Ghost Breakers (1940)
The Ghost of Frankenstein (1942)
The Ghost Ship (1943)
The Ghost Train (1941)
The Greed of William Hart (1948)
The Headless Woman (1947)
The Hidden Hand (1942)
The Invisible Man Returns (1940)
The Invisible Man's Revenge (1944)
The Jade Mask (1945)
The Jungle Captive (1945)
The Lady and the Monster (1944)
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow (1949 Animated Short)
The Leopard Man (1943)
The Living Ghost (1942)
The Lodger (1944)
The Mad Doctor of Market Street (1942)
The Mad Ghoul (1943)
The Mad Monster (1942)
The Mask of Diijon (1946)
The Monkey's Paw (1948)
The Monster and the Girl (1941)
The Monster Maker (1944)
The Mummy's Curse (1944)
The Mummy's Ghost (1944)
The Mummy's Hand (1940)
The Mummy's Tomb (1942)
The Mysterious Doctor (1943)
The Night Comes Too Soon (1947)
The Night Has Eyes (1942)
The Phantom Speaks (1945)
The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945)
The Portrait (1948)
The Queen of Spades (1949)
The Red House (1947)
The Return of the Vampire (1944)
The Seventh Victim (1943)
The Snow Man (1940 Animated Short)
The Soul of a Monster (1944)
The Spider Woman Strikes Back (1946)
The Spiral Staircase (1945)
The Strange Case of Doctor Rx (1942)
The Tell-Tale Heart (1941 Short)
The Undying Monster (1942)
The Uninvited (1944)
The Vampire's Ghost (1945)
The Wolf Man (1941)
Things Happen at Night (1947)
Third Dimensional Murder (1941 Short)
Uncle Silas (1947)
Unknown Island (1948)
Unusual Tales (1949)
Valley of the Zombies (1946)
Voodoo Man (1944)
Woman Who Came Back (1945)
Ye ban ge sheng xu ji (1941)
Yotsuya kaidan (1949)
Yotsuya kaidan, Part II (1949)
You'll Find Out (1940)
Zombies on Broadway (1945)

First list of choices from the 40s has arrived. Thank you, fortunato.

Thanks to Straker and neverending for submitting entries #2 & #3, respectively, for the 40s.

At work right now, I'll get my list to you tonight, V.

Thanks, hammer!

And thanks as well to The Ugly Duchess and roshiq, for submitting the 4th and 5th lists of choices from the 40s.

...and thank you to hammerfan for submitting the 6th list for the 40s.

As the lists continue to pour in for the 40s, let's start our summation for the first period of this era - the 1890s to the 1920s.

Total number of lists received = 9.


IN THE CUT

Nosferatu (1922) - 9
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) - 9
The Fall of the House of Usher (1928) - 9

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1920) - 8
Faust (1926) - 8
Frankenstein (1910) - 8
The Phantom of the Opera (1925) - 8

The Cat and the Canary (1927) - 7
The Golem (1920) - 7
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1923) - 7

Haxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (1922) - 6
London After Midnight (1927) - 6

The Bat (1926) - 5
The Man Who Laughs (1928) - 5
The Phantom Carriage (1921) - 5
Un Chien Andalou (1929, Short) - 5
West Of Zanzibar (1928) - 5


DEBATABLE

The Monkey's Paw (1923) - 4
Waxworks (1924) - 4

Bluebeard (1901, Short) - 3
Le Manoir du Diable (1896) - 3 (backed by fortunato, seconded by Fearonsarms)
The Golem (1915) - 3
The Hands of Orlac (1924) - 3
The Hound of the Baskervilles (1922) - 3
The Lodger (1927) - 3
The Lost World (1925) - 3


MINORITY

A Page of Madness (1926) - 2 (backed by fortunato, seconded by neverending)
Dante's Inferno (1911) - 2 (backed by Fearonsarms)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1920, Sheldon Lewis) - 2
The 400 Tricks of the Devil (1906, Short) - 2 (backed by Straker)
The Monster (1925) - 2
The Penalty (1920) - 2
The Student of Prague (1913) - 2
The Terror (1928) - 2
The Unknown (1927) - 2
The Wizard (1927) - 2

A Blind bargain (1922) - The Ugly Duchess
Der Januskopf (1920) - neverending
Destiny (1921) - roshiq
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1912, Short) - The Villain
Eerie Tales (1919) - Fearonsarms
House of Horror (1929) - hammerfan
Salome (1923) - Fearonsarms
The Dark Mirror (1920) - The Ugly Duchess
The Haunted Castle (1921) - fortunato
The Headless Horseman (1922) - The Villain
The Man Who Cheated Life (1926) - roshiq
The Sealed Room (1909) - Straker
The Unholy Night (1929) - The Ugly Duchess
Wolf Blood (1925) - Chronogrl


17 films have made it in, by a vote percentage of over 50%.

We need to select 3 more films from the other two sections (preferably from the DEBATABLE section), and 6 Honorable Mentions from the rest.

I have posted the names of the HDC-ians who sent in their unique choices, i.e., those which got only 1 vote, and that vote was theirs only.

Please post your reasons for choosing your unique films, your backing for the MINORITY & DEBATABLE selections, and why you feel your chosen ones should be included in the 3 remaining spots and/or the 6 Honorable Mentions for this first period of horror.

OR

If everyone is in agreement, we can toss in the two films with 4 votes into the final selection. That way we end up with 19 films, and need to select ONE from the rest.

So, go ahead. Post your views.

La manoir du diable deserves inclusion by virtue of that fact that it's generally considered to be the first horror film. While it was made to be goofy and playful rather than frightening, it still contains many aspects of what would become part of the language of horror cinema--Gothic castle, bats, ghouls, ghosts, as well as some early special effects--all in one 3+ minute short.

Seconded :)

Dante's Inferno (1911) Deserves inclusion because not only the first full length horror from Italy but because it successfully adapted the first on-screen vision of hell adapted from Dante's writings. Though it's more like a series of set pieces than a cohesive movie, it impressively portrays in graphic detail the many torments to be inflicted on it's residents. Inspired by the illustrations of Gustav Doré the original silent film has been restored and has a new score by Tangerine Dream. This gives the whole nightmare an atmosphere that is relentlessly unique and otherworldly that will still send a shiver down the spine of the viewer.

The Sealed Room: Kinda plays out more like a melodrama, loosely based on The Cask of Amontillado. Nice early example of gothic cinema. Pretty well edited for the time, which keeps the drama/ tension flowing which in itself is a pretty awesome achivement considering there are only a handful of static shots across the 11 minuites run time. Its quite dark for the time and the tension builds nicely and its all well put together. Great movie from a great director, check it out here if you have a spare 10mins:



OK, now do I think its worthy of one of the final spots? I'm not so sure looking at the competition... The Student of Prague is amazing and I expected to see that in the final cut without debate, along with Waxworks. The Golem, not a huge fan but totally expected to see it in the final cut.

Skimming through the list though if I had to get behind just one film to make the final cut that is looking like its going to fall short, it would totally be 400 Tricks of the Devil George Melies deserves a spot on the final cut and could easily have two or three in there. 400 tricks is my personal favourite, but Le Manoir du Diable is equally deserving. Either way I really think he needs a little love as a genuine pioneer of visual effects which plays such a huge role in the horror genre.

Please check it out:

All excellent arguments. Edited the list accordingly.

Please check it again.

Holy cow! I just realized A Page of Madness is up for debate.

Okay, so this one really deserves a spot. It's one of the first films, as far as I know, to use a "pure cinema" approach to exploring the subjectivity of madness, creating expressive visual poetry of a distorted and frightening world. With surreal imagery and experimental editing techniques, A Page of Madness is a haunting, insane masterpiece, surely unique in not only its time, but even to this day. I strongly encourage anyone not familiar with the film to watch it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zud4gj9FYzU

Unfortunately a lo-res copy of a terrible transfer, but even still it's hypnotizing.
It would really be a shame for such an incredible, singular film to be excluded from the list.

I know Roshiq will back me on this one!

I'll vote for A Page of Madness as well.

Done .

Still waiting for some more entries from the 40s, and backings for the 20s period.

Feel free to chip in with your thoughts, folks.