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The_Return 07-25-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 617285)
I'm here for ya, ill!


We gotta get Return in here- I know he wasn't as fond about Jaws as others are, and he's good at making valid arguements.

Heh, that's actually why I haven't chimed in yet - I tried to convincingly rip apart this movie, but it just wasnt coming out right.

Basically, I find it to be really slow and poorly written...suspense falls flat and turns to tedium. The actors are good, but with few exceptions the characters are empty. The final confrontation with the shark is awesome, but otherwise I didn't find much to like about it.

swiss tony 07-26-2007 12:28 AM

i disagree. i thought the two ultimate victors were very likeable. even robert shaws character was charasmatic. there was also a nice little thread of humour running through it.

Kane_Hodder 07-26-2007 02:16 AM

I think the central part of Jaws was a bit tedious and stretched for some reason. It starts off brilliantly and ends in a great thrilling climax sequence, but in-between it drags a bit. Of course the suspenseful moments are aplenty, and they carry it forward.

swiss tony 07-26-2007 07:01 AM

just cause it's technically a horror doesn't mean there shouldn't be significant sections of story telling and character development. i just wish there was more horror containing quality acting/drama/plot. maybe the genre would be more credible if it did so. don't forget, the exorcist also had large sections seemingly innocuous drama.

_____V_____ 07-26-2007 07:32 AM

I dont think Jaws ever let up on the atmosphere for one bit, whether it be the beginning, middle or end...each part was laced with plenty of pacy atmosphere which keeps the overall movie quite pacy and relentless.

Spielberg did really good to stick to his script, and Benchley wrote one hell of a story. No complaints there.

Its a great movie, and of course, one of the most scariest movies ever made.


Nice bashups there, Vamp and Kane. Although we have more Jaws lovers here, it was a good buildup. This is becoming great...


Okay we have seen a fan favorite of many horror fans out there get plenty of ridicule and hate here in HDC. But, guys, why dont most of you like

Child's Play?

Chucky is regarded as somewhat of a cult horror icon in his own right. There are plenty of creepy slasher moments in the franchise, and Brad Dourif has gathered quite a fan following after the movie...

So...what actually doesnt tick in it for you? Bring it on!!:D

massacre man 07-26-2007 07:51 AM

I love Child's Play, maybe because it scared the hell out of me when I was little and I'm proud I'm not scared anymore. I think Chucky would probably be the most popular horror icon in terms of being well-known behind Michael, Jason, and Freddy, maybe Leatherface. I liked the sequels too, Don Mancini is cool in the fact he kept the series and wrote every installment (unless I'm mistaken). Plus, the sequels are also personal favorites of mine, I'm glad they realized it couldn't stay a serious series for more than 3 movies, Bride and Seed are the two most entertaining in the series, the first 2 are good horror movies. I think I'm the only one who liked Child's Play 3.

newb 07-26-2007 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 617351)
I dont think Jaws ever let up on the atmosphere for one bit, whether it be the beginning, middle or end...each part was laced with plenty of pacy atmosphere which keeps the overall movie quite pacy and relentless.

Agreed

Child's Play?

Chucky is regarded as somewhat of a cult horror icon in his own right. There are plenty of creepy slasher moments in the franchise, and Brad Dourif has gathered quite a fan following after the movie...

So...what actually doesnt tick in it for you? Bring it on!!:D

Not a bad flic but c'mon.....its a fucking doll. I'de punt the little fucker with no problem.

massacre man 07-26-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 617361)
Not a bad flic but c'mon.....its a fucking doll. I'de punt the little fucker with no problem.

Come on, it's a mom and her kid, and most footballs don't swing knives or bite, I'd rather run than lose some toes.

Unaboner3000 07-26-2007 08:57 AM

Not the worst movie ever...BUT there is just something very corny about a killer doll. In a horror flick, the killer/monster is what makes the movie. Chucky was pretty medicore IMO.

Doc Faustus 07-26-2007 08:58 AM

Good premise. Good acting from Brad Dourif. It's really scary if you're a kid. Child's Play gave my brother nightmares for months, but he was five. The problem with Child's Play is it can be very scary for kids, but they're not the target audience, in fact, it's far too scary for them in their context. For adults, it's not so scary. The only Child's Play I really liked is Bride of Chucky, because it's smarter, funnier and sexier. All the others are good for traumatizing and boring or getting uncomfortable laughter out of grownups.

novakru 07-26-2007 10:42 AM

Taking something that has so many emotional connections as a doll and turning it into this horrid lil killing machine.....strikes too close into my sense of balance... of what I will always see as soul comfort.

I will not re-watch this flick and I will never watch the sequals.

swiss tony 07-26-2007 11:05 AM

extremely average slasher that had an original gimmick which seems to have struck a chord with many, but not i. if it comes to picking a movie character that gives you a false sense of childhood security i'll go for pennywise. i just didn't buy into him. there are so many better baddies to choose from. even as a comedy its a million miles away from the bench mark that shaun... made.

Despare 07-26-2007 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 617272)
I gotta disagree with you on that one. It has a near-unstoppable killer that takes out a naked chick, a kid, a couple of old men, the tough-as-nails fisherman and nearly eats our hero.

There are jump scares, lots of creepy mood, a chilling soundtrack and tons of suspense.

And there are people who were so traumatized by the film (both my wife & my mother fall ionto this category) that they will not set foot in the ocean for fear of being eaten.

Any film with all these elements is a horror film.

Or just a scary adventure film. Either way I liked it.


Child's Play did nothing for me except give me hours of fun torturing my little sister with my little bro's "My Buddy".

jenna26 07-27-2007 10:53 AM

I actually really like Child's Play, and a couple of the sequels, but at the same time I have never understood why it is as popular as it seems to be.
For what it is, it is pretty well done. But as others have said, I just can't find a doll all that scary, its just not that effective in that way. Its entertaining enough though, and Chucky moved very well. And I have to admit, there is one very good scare scene here.

megamoviejohn 07-27-2007 12:00 PM

I was about 6 or 7 when I saw childs play, it was pretty scary to me. And I actually still enjoy it now, even some of the sequals were enjoyable.

_____V_____ 07-27-2007 09:39 PM

Nicely covered, guys. Of course it scared the bejesus out of us when we were kids, but now...nah it feels like one swift kick to Chucky's head and we get rid of the annoyance forever. Parts II & III and Son were extremely annoying btw. Bride was good because it FELT mature, so was the original.



Hmm...we have watched it, loved it, adored it...and some of us have hated it.

It was such a trendsetter of its time, and yet...some of us feel that it didnt quite live upto expectations...but why has

The Amityville Horror

not been a regular in the choices of anyone's list? Its rare to see the name come up in anybody's top 20...let alone a top 10.

Bring on the bashings, folks!!

Unaboner3000 07-28-2007 09:17 AM

Haunted houses are alot like killer dolls. Might be scary when your 8 years olds, but as an adult all you can think is, "Damn, this is stupid. George and Kathy, pack your shit and move already!"

massacre man 07-28-2007 09:39 AM

I thought it was cool when I was a kid, I don't know if I outgrew it or saw it too many times, but it's just boring to me now.

paws the great 07-28-2007 12:14 PM

The Shining (1980)- 8/10

Land of the Dead - This flick should have never been made.It almost gives Remero's Dead films a bad name!:) 3/10

Jeepers Creepers - 8/10

House of 1000 Corpses - 6/10

Halloween 3- 6/10

Event Horizon - 7/10

Friday the 13th - 10/10

Jaws - 6/10

Child's Play - 5/10

The Blair Witch Project - I like the first ten minutes.....but the rest of the flick is HORRIBLE!! 1/10

The Amityyville Horror - 6/10

novakru 07-28-2007 12:33 PM

This was a solid horror movie, nothing to bash from my end.

_____V_____ 07-28-2007 08:59 PM

Yes it is almost equivalent to Child's Play. Back in its day it created some big spooks and jitters but today it doesnt scare much. Of course the franchise and the remake did nothing to its reputation either.

There has been some argument over this movie...some hail it as a new dimension in horror...yet others say it wasnt anything great...can anybody elaborate why

The Burning

isnt regarded too highly in every horror fan's book?

Here it comes....!!!

newb 07-28-2007 09:17 PM

The Burning was good.......actually a bit underated. Great Tom Savini effects.....plot was a bit lame, but most 70's slashers were.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 07-28-2007 09:34 PM

it was pretty lame but it gets points for showing a Jason Alexander with hair.

megamoviejohn 07-28-2007 10:25 PM

i watched it after the remake, I enjoyed the remake better, I guess because it actually made me jump a little.

paws the great 07-29-2007 12:32 AM

The Burning is one of my favorite 80's slashers.Awesome flick!

paws the great 07-29-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by megamoviejohn (Post 617692)
i watched it after the remake, I enjoyed the remake better, I guess because it actually made me jump a little.

Remake??:confused:

megamoviejohn 07-29-2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by paws the great (Post 617698)
Remake??:confused:

sorry, I was talking about Amityville Horror remake, I saw that before I saw the original, didnt really like either one, but if I had to pick I'd watch the remake over the original.

_____V_____ 07-29-2007 09:43 AM

Remakes are a totally different track. Of course we will eventually run into them, but for now lets stick to the originals...largely those which have shared love-hate relationships with the audiences over the years.

Speaking of love-hate...a very recent movie has had mixed reactions from the audiences...here at HDC, most of us have loved it...yet I usually come across some negative vibes towards it too...usually from over-critical members and newbies...

The accusations of ripping off a video-game's atmosphere shot-for-shot, and stretched use of characters...why do the critics not like

Silent Hill?

Roderick Usher 07-29-2007 02:20 PM

I seriously wouldn't know...I don't watch movies adapted from video games

massacre man 07-29-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 617758)
I seriously wouldn't know...I don't watch movies adapted from video games

Yeah.

Except for Super Mario Bros., but I was little.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 07-29-2007 03:18 PM

Silent Hill was like watching someone play a video game, the characters were pretty horrible and the acting was pretty bad for a big budget movie.

illdojo 07-29-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 617765)
Silent Hill was like watching someone play a video game, the characters were pretty horrible and the acting was pretty bad for a big budget movie.

On the subject of video game based movies.....House of the Dead was equally as worthless. :rolleyes:

jenna26 07-30-2007 08:24 AM

For what it is, I don't think Silent Hill is bad at all. Not brilliant by any means, but entertaining enough. But yes, it did have that video game feel, which just doesn't work very well in films. And even though I don't, I can understand why others would dislike it.

The_Return 07-30-2007 08:33 AM

I thought Silent Hill was pretty good...nothing mindblowingly amazing, but it was a fun way to kill a couple hours.

swiss tony 07-30-2007 11:47 AM

if its as bad as doom or resident evil i'll just stay clear.

Doc Faustus 07-30-2007 02:30 PM

I liked Silent Hill. Not too much, but I liked it. The monsters were cool, the atmosphere was interesting and Alice Krige did a good job. I wish the story were more substantial, but I still think it worked. Especially for a videogame movie.

paws the great 07-30-2007 05:43 PM

I thought Silent Hill was okay.

_____V_____ 07-30-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss tony (Post 617904)
if its as bad as doom or resident evil i'll just stay clear.

Absolutely not. When compared to those two, Silent Hill would be a masterpiece. But its a good entertainer, a fun way of killing off 2 hours.

The atmosphere may be video-gamish, but thats what makes it entertaining...because it sustains the stuff from the most chilling video-game ever made, I dare say. I would recommend it.


Righto...this is getting good. People coming forward all keen to bash a movie, others to defend it. I must commend the bashers for putting forward very frank views.

I have read comments made that this movie helped kick a failing genre back into some hyper-activity in the 90s, but others say they found it obnoxious, annoying and boring. What is the real reason behind the haters giving

Scream

such a hard time?

massacre man 07-30-2007 08:43 PM

Not a big fan of Scream, I'll watch it when it's on but I won't choose to watch it. The only character I really liked was Jamie Kennedy's.

illdojo 07-30-2007 09:27 PM

I actually like Scream. Very refreshing at the time of it's release. Wes Craven brought life back to the Slasher genre in the mid 90's with that film. I liked the old school Horror film stereotypes.
The only thing I hate about Scream is that fuck Skeet Ulrich. That Depp wannabe is a terrible actor. :rolleyes:


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