Okay, this is going to get worse before...the thread gets locked...so I'll do one more post in this particular discussion and leave it at that.


I haven't read her say that it was a suicide attempt, so I will assume it wasn't. Which means it was just cutting.
I don't have a problem with cutting (hell, I used to cut). Whatever someone wants to do with their OWN body, I don't care one way or the other. Same with drinking, smoking, piercings, tattoos, S&M, black tar heroin, coat hangers, anything like that. I don't know the reasoning, whatever it may or may not be, for what Haunted did, so I can't judge or say anything about it. All I know is that she cut. I assume that there's a reasoning behind it, but for all I know she could just be a masochist. I agree, however, that cutting doesn't actually help problems. But neither do things like having a drink after a bad day, but people do that anyways and nobody bats an eye.
And I don't think this was for attention either. She didn't go on about it, she didn't give a lengthly diatribe about the reason for what she did, just a simple "this is what happened, I'll see ya later" not really ASKING for support even. This would all have gotten out anyways no matter how it went down now. Either she just goes away for a while without saying anything:
*Haunted comes back*
Some poster: Hey, Haunted, where ya been?
Haunted: Personal stuff.
Some poster: Sam has a limited amount of space for posting, so lets just pretend I and others have asked about the "personal stuff" a lot.
Haunted: *first post in this thread*
Or she just says that she'll be gone for a while and leaves:
*Haunted comes back*
Some poster: Sam has a limited amount of space for posting, so lets just pretend I and others have asked about the "personal stuff" a lot.
Haunted: *first post in this thread*

I don't think discussion at any length taking any side is going to do any good, be it support or getting in her face, cause in the end she's gonna do what she's gonna do. So, I'm gonna try and stay away from the main argument that's going on.

You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave.

For starters I dont think cheeba is coming back anytime soon. I dont blame him either. As for the banning that was just out of boredom right?

For some reason many of you dont seem to understand why he said what he did. Have none of you seen the way she acts??

I for one know she has gone over the top in expressing her mental issues, calling attention to them at any given opportunity. This thread is the same. " Look at me, look what other stupid shit I can do to myself, sympathise with me".
If it wasn't a cry for attention she wouldn't have posted it in a public forum.

Im glad cheebs said what he did. Maybe it will help Haunted in some ways..

Haunted not here to bitch at you, stating some facts that I have seen firsthand from you on the forums ok. I know you have been a bitch to him, ( and dont dare tell me otherwise).

Its over, cheeba aint coming back yet. Lets see who the assholes are now hey.

As for you trippin, Fuck you.

My apologies if I went too far, but I will stand up to people who wanna bitch at Cheeba for his comments.

What you don't know about me could fill volumes of books. O' course I'm not saying that you'd want to know that much about me. So, for you to make blanket statements is preposterous. Not only that, I'm tired of you making assumptions about me.

The reason Spallalala, that I make a big deal about mental illness is because I'm something of an activist. I want people to know that it's like any other disease. I want people to understand that it's genetic and strikes at random. I caught from genes. Nothing I could do about it.

(Understand the difference between someone who is psychotic and someone who is a psychopath. Two totally different balls of wax).

I would like to know how I've been a bitch to Cheebs. I reamed him ONE time...count it, ONE time. I thought, and still believe that he was having a go at me so I reacted. I will DARE tell you otherwise, thank you so very much.

This is the point, Spallalala, where you need to step out of the conversation. Cheebs is gone, go with him. One of our US presidents (Abe Lincoln) once said, "It is far better to sit and silence and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." My point, nothing you've said has indicated that you know anything about what you're talking about, and I'm tired of it. Bugger off.

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I'm guessing that's why he was banned. I don't really think he should have been banned, but according to these new rules... It's just that the way Cheeba posts does seem insulting at times, but it's how he gets his point across. I think he was just trying to help aswell as make you feel stupid for attempting to kill yourself, Haunted.
(which is what he thought you were trying to do, I'm pretty sure)

Not everyone can be educated on mental illness, nobody without depression can understand depression etc. At the core of things that sound ignorant to you, might be someone who honestly cares about you, Haunted. I hope Cheeba decides to come back and I hope you can understand eachother better.

Anyway, I don't think this was a cry for attention. If you were going to the hospital with a physical injury, you might post about it, no? Same thing to me.

Haunted, this is the first I've seen this thread. I'm so sorry I'm late in replying.

I feel for what you're going through - I can't say I know what you're going through because I don't, I've never done anything like this. However, my 16 year old niece has and has had a history since she was a small child of emotional problems.

For what it's worth, I'm here for you. If you ever need to talk, cry, laugh, bitch, whatever, I'm here for you, I have a huge box of Kleenex and a drip-dry shirt. Know that, believe it. I'll be saying many, many prayers for you sweetheart. You're a good person and I care about you. Granted, I don't really know you, but you've helped me in the past and you didn't have to do that. But, you did, and in my book that makes you a person worth knowing.

Ladies & gentleman...without further ado...i give you...Sonny & Cher

CHORUS:
The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da

Charleston was once the rage, uh huh
History has turned the page, uh huh
The mini skirts the current thing, uh huh
Teenybopper is our newborn king, uh huh

Chorus

The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da
http://www.sundazed.com/artists/arti...nnycherpic.jpg

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lmao :p

This is exactly what I was trying to say in my previous post. Mental illness has such a bad stigma attached to it...people usually assume that if a person wants to, they can just stop their behavior. That's just not true. With the right help, sometimes they can learn to control their behavior a bit...but it never truly goes away. Also, like Haunted said...alot of these illnesses are inherited, like schizophrenia, psychosis, etc. People inherit them because of genetic and/or a combination of environmental factors...again, not all...but in Haunted's case, genetic factors along with her life experiences seems to be the cause. Like she said, it runs in her family.

Again, I like to think I know something on the matter considering I actually studied it. I'm not just throwing out information that isn't true, I've done the research and know that it's backed up. I'm not trying to side with anyone. I respect both Cheeba and Haunted and their opinions. I may not always agree with what they say, but that's okay. That doesn't change the way I feel about either of them, and I can sympathize with both of their viewpoints (aside from the actual name calling).

If Haunted WAS looking for attention (which I honestly believe she wasn't), perhaps it's a good thing. Why do you think alot of times, people just THREATEN suicide, when they really have no intention of doing it. Attention? Yes, that's part of it. But the other part is the fact that they NEED HELP. They're asking somebody to help them get better. They're asking for support.

I have to imagine that...after a while, of course you would get angry if you loved somebody who consistently put themselves in harm's way. However, there's getting angry and then there's just being mean...huge difference.

I'm actually glad this topic was discussed at length...I wish it hadn't spiraled as out of control as it seems to have...but I think it'd good to talk about these types of issues. If more people took the time to understand the CAUSES of mental illness...perhaps they wouldn't be so quick to judge it.

You say im assuming shit Haunted, yet look what you just did. You ASSUMED that I was talking about your mental state, when it seems that it was everyone else doing it. NOT ME
And dont tell me to keep out of a conversation. You have no right to tell me to step out.

As for the whole bitching to cheeba. Im not going to answer that. Dont want anymore fights started in here.

All I have said is the truth. Things I have seen on here since cheeba first made an appearance.


Im not sticking around. Please go ahead with the assumptions about me.

Bye all.

Might come back when things arn't so Psychotic around here.

omfg..!!

what..are you going for a record..seeing how many more you can get rid of within a space of time.??
You have the support...you have the sympathy..you have the 'what ever the hell else your looking for'...try getting off the computer and grabbing a life.
Mental illness is not a thing to be used as a tool to manipulate then use as an excuse for the behaviour.
As i mentioned before ..many of us have had the shit kicked out of us sometime during our lives (not exact wording ..but close) n your going to get the odd negative response but their opinions are not based on malice..if you take off the rose tinted glasses and read between the lines and stop looking at the nick thats advising you and read what they have to say..I personally found Cheba' and Lala's replies quite supportive and somewhat helpful in thier own way.

yeah right....it was boredom

I wanted to respond to this earlier, but I wasn't sure how... I had to think about it first...Given the limited time that I have here now, I wanted to be sure that I had enough time to make the response that I wanted to...

First of all, Sam already made many of my points...It almost doesn't scare me so much anymore that he keeps doing that:p...I am often amazed by his intelligence and insight, especially for his age (I hate to keep bringing up the 'age' thing, Sam...But, a fact is a fact...You are an exceptional person...Most people don't attain the type of knowledge and independant thought that you exhibit, until much later in life...I certainly hope that you accomplish something with that amazing brain of yours, that someday leaves a permanent mark on this miserable world)...

Like Sam, I do NOT believe that Heather was 'trying to commit suicide'...First of all, if a person TRULY wants to die, they don't really have to 'try' very hard to accomplish that...Human life is actually quite fragile...People die by ACCIDENT every day...If you put even a LITTLE bit of intention behind it, death is quite easily achieved...

In my own personal assessment of these types of situations...I have come to believe that:

Attempted Suicide: People say it's for attention...People say it's a cry for help......I tend to agree, based on what I mentioned above...Maybe it's because they feel neglected, and they just want to see who really cares...Of course this is DEFINITELY the WRONG way to go about it...

Suicide: People say it's a selfish, cowardly act, and that the person who commits suicide doesn't think about anyone else........I believe that there are two types of thought behind the reasons for actually committing suicide:

1) I believe that many people DO think of others when they commit (or even attempt) suicide...As a matter of fact, I believe it's the main reason for the act...

Often they think to themselves "They'll be sorry"...They want to hurt the people (in the worst way they can imagine) who have hurt them so deeply...They use this as a form of punishment (unfortunately...It definitely has its drawbacks)....Often, the ONLY thing they are thinking of at the time that they do this, IS the person/people they are trying to retaliate against...They imagine what the reaction of the person will be when they either find the body (which, of course, is what the suicide committer hopes for the most), or when they find out that they are dead...They imagine many different scenarios, and they regret the fact that they won't be there to see it for themselves...The reason for the 'suicide note' is to make certain that the person who was supposed to be punished, knows that it was for them....Even if it just says their name and something simple like "I love you"...It still hits hard , as it's supposed to.....Often suicide (or attempted suicide) is a very vindictive thing to do, but they feel that they have no other recourse left, because they haven't been able to 'reach' the person any other way.

They DO, however fail to think of the people they will hurt UNintentionally...They lose sight of this, because all of their focus is on revenge/self-pity...and the person for whom it is intended

2) In my opinion, a REAL suicide is committed by a person who has simply become completely overwhelmed by life itself, and can see no other way out...They really do just want it all to end...They believe that they have failed at making things work the way they should, and that life will NEVER get any better...They are defeated, tired of trying and not accomplishing anything, and they feel that it's just pointless to continue on....They honestly don't believe that they will really hurt anyone, or even be missed by anyone, because they TRULY feel that their life has no purpose or meaning to ANYONE, as it doesn't to themselves.....These people will usually not leave a suicide note, unless it's just an explanation...Usually something like "I'm just too tired" or "I just can't do it anymore"......They do not 'threaten' to commit suicide...They do not 'discuss it' with anyone....They just DO it...Usually quite quickly, and always effectively...

Cutting: I have no personal experience with this, but I have known people who do......I do not believe that what Heather did was an actual act of 'cutting'...Although, I could certainly be wrong....This is the extent of my knowledge on this subject:

There are usually different reasons for cutting...The act may be the same, but the reason and intended outcome can vary...For example:

'Cutting' To Stop 'Feeling':

Some people 'cut' because they feel that they are so completely filled with emotions that they can't handle, and that these emotions are suffocating them, killing them...They have to find a way to 'release' these emotions, in order to keep their sanity, or even to survive.....The physical act of cutting open the body, gives them a sense of 'letting things out'...It's a very physical way, to deal with an emotional problem.....This act is actually beneficial to them in a few ways...It makes them feel that they are in control, because they are doing something to make themselves feel better...It allows them to visualize the emotions (most often, deep pain) actually leaving their bodies through the open wounds, which allows them to experience a form of relief....It's psychosomatic, but it works for them

'Cutting' To 'Feel'

Some people 'cut' because they have been so bombarded with emotional pain, they simply want to feel something, ANYTHING else....They hope that the physical pain will be greater than the emotional pain, and will distract them from their torment for a time........

OR they have become emotionless, due to the fact that they have been put through so much emotional trauma in their lives, they have simply detached themselves from all emotions, in order to protect themselves.....So, they 'cut' in order to be able to feel SOMETHING, and not just feel that they are completely 'numb'


I honestly have NEVER heard of anyone committing an act of 'cutting' (for whatever the person's reason, or desired effect may be) simply for ATTENTION...In fact, the intent behind it is often quite the opposite...Almost always committed by people who feel that no one else is capable of helping them (nor would they want to try to rely on anyone else FOR help), that it's something they have to deal with themselves, and therefore 'attention', even if received, would be quite pointless....It's an extremely personal thing, that they usually DO NOT want others to even know about....It becomes a form of 'personal emotional/psychological maintenance'



As I have given this much thought...I honestly believe that what Heather did was neither a form of 'attempted suicide' or an 'act of cutting'

What she did, felt more to me like an act of 'self destruction/self hatred'...Which is brought on by a completely different thought process (usually caused by frustration, hopelessness, helplessness, self-disgust, despair, anger, etcetera) and intent........It was not intended to punish anyone but herself, it was not intended to affect anyone but herself...It was a deeply personal thing, but NOT for 'relief' as in cutting...I feel that it was truly an attempt to try to 'destroy' herself, although not actually 'kill herself'.......

I see it in the way that a person might slash a painting or ruin a work of art by covering it in paint......Destroying it, but not causing it to cease to exist...

I believe that mentioning it here was NOT for sympathy or attention...But, seemed more like a "Damn, I got wasted last night, and now I have one HELL of a raging hangover...Man, I shouldn't have done that" kinda thing........Many people here have made posts like that, are they trying to get sympathy, or attention?...Nah, pretty much just telling how they feel, passing along information...

I REALLY wish that I could explain it better than that...I know what I'm trying to say, I just can't quite get it out the way I want to...*sigh*

As for the comments that Cheeba made:

Anger is much easier to express than sorrow or fear.....

We do not control our emotions, they control US...

Sorrow and fear are considered 'weak' emotions...Anger and Rage are very strong emotions.........To allow ourselves to be controlled by 'weak emotions' causes us to feel VERY weak and helpless....We can allow ourselves to be controlled by stronger emotions, far more easily

Often we will express anger in a situation where we feel sorrow or fear, often exchanging the weaker emotions for the stronger one....We can simply accept it more easily, and we do it automatically, without even realizing that we're doing it

For example: When my mother told me that my uncle died, I should have cried, I should have been sad, or even a little afraid because he was only 38 (early deaths remind us that we can check out at ANY time)...BUT...I was pissed off...I was EXTREMELY pissed off...Demanding to know how it happened, and who was responsible, as well as many other things......Many might consider this an odd reaction, or simply a reaction that was not what they would have expected...But, it's just the way I'm made...It's how I deal with things...

I have a feeling that Cheeba is a lot like this...Some people can't allow themselves to feel 'weak' or admit that they hurt...Because weakness disgusts them...It may also cause them to lash out at someone else that they feel is weak, when they should be strong...

I have a recent personal example of THIS, too:

I went to that 'Astrology' thing with my mother...The girl who was doing the presentation claimed that she was psychic, and could see and communicate with ghosts...When a little boy asked if she could see his dad, who recently died, she said "Well, there is a man behind you, he says that he is very proud of you, and that you have taken on your new responsibilities well"...When the boy's mother asked her what the 'ghost' looked like, she was very hesitant and you could tell that she was grasping for anything, starting off with 'white male...':rolleyes:...It was disgusting...The girl was nervous as hell during the ENTIRE presentation, she felt to me like a very 'weak' person...Seri said that she thought the girl seemed 'afraid' of me somehow...Dustin said that he could actually FEEL that the girl did not like me and was avoiding making eye contact with me, even when I was asking her questions, he said that the tension was almost visible......There were many times when she simply should have said "I don't really know', instead of trying to make shit up...It pissed me off that she was so fake, and could not admit it when she was unsure........Anyway, her weakness made me angry, it made me feel vicious...It reminded me of 'blood in the water' to a shark, or the 'smell of fear' to a predator.....I felt like destroying her, ripping her apart...Publicly humiliating her...Exposing her as a fraud....And I think she knew it...


Anyway...You can try to decipher where I was going with all of that in relation to how Cheeba responded to this situation....Fortunately for all of you, I am out of time again :p...lol


@ Heather...I'm truly sorry for what you're going through...I disagree with the way you chose to handle it (in that, it isn't something that I would do myself, or that I would want to see anyone else do), BUT I also am incapable of understanding what you have to do to deal with things, as I have never walked in your shoes, so I am not permitted to judge you for it.....I believe that there are better ways to cope, but it's obvious that you felt this was the route you had to take, perhaps you feel that 'other options' are unavailable to you, or most likely you were not thinking rationally enough to consider anything else, which would make the most sense, considering you obviously weren't in the best 'emotional state' or experiencing the most 'mental clarity' at the time, or it probably wouldn't have happened in the first place...

I love you, regardless

okay, I wasn't going to post in here again, but this is bugging the shit out of me...


just how many fucking people here are named Heather?!

Rayne, your analysis of why I cut myself made me stop. I think you just cracked open part of my psyche. That's SOME thinkin' I appreciate the fact that you took the time to think it over like you did.

I really wanted to tell you about what I did personally, but obviously that's outta the picture. Your love and compassion warms me up tremendously. You know me so well, it's almost frightening, but then, you "know" everyone you meet. (You sure there's no witch in you?...what sights I could show you) I love you for all the woman that you are. A damn fine woman at that.

Everyone who encouraged me through the dark and those of you who simply kind then distant because of the bullshit that was stirred, I thank you.

I'm delving more deeply into the Craft and my faith within. I'm deepening my personal relationship with The Morrighan, my Goddess (don't I sound the Baptist). This has all be exceedingly helpful.

As Cartman once said, "I love you guys."

2?

at least

I <3 Bloodrayne.

Rayne, you blow me away! I really enjoy reading your post, such words of wisdom. BTW.. have you had your new bundle of joy???;)

weird thing: Rayne calls Haunted by her real name, but still calls me Sam

just sayin

I know your real name, but still think of you as Sam. It is strange...maybe it's just your alter ego.

Bloodrayne.

Your not a psychologist are you? Im pretty sure your not. If you think that what you have said about cheeba is true then you dont know him at all. So save the cereal box psychology for those in here that wish to hear it.
I didn't bother reading it all, just the parts about cheebs, coming from someone that actually knows him, you are incorrect.

Sounds to me like you read it all. Why else would you respond as such???

Maybe youre the one who doesnt know CHeeba the way you think you do. Maybe he has a side to him that your not seeing, everyone does. Perhaps your too blind to see it.

Seems you are quite on the defensive dont you think. I believe that Rayne made a simple opinion. Lets see if I can come up with something that you will like.

Cheeba is the greatest guy on the earth. He is so compassionate and understanding of others. He is quite tolerant and open to others ideas and expressions. He is not the kind of person that would hurt a fly. Nor would he ever hurt the woman that he loves by doing things behind her back. As a matter of fact just yesterday I saw him in the yard planting flowers and a small bird fell from a tree. He scooped the bird up and nursed it back to health and returned it to the wild.

Could be CHeebs could be TED FUCKIN BUNDY.

I only know him from what I have seen and heard. I make my own judgements. Like I said perhaps I will visit him in a dream and we can discuss it further and maybe I can see things from your point of view. Then maybe I can visit you, and I can show you things you arent seeing.

Do yourself a favor and let it go.

..know him or is him ?

Hmmmmmmm.........good question! I think shes just a little biased!

LOL!!!!! I think shes just a little rude,but im not here to judge!!:rolleyes:

Spallalala, I have kept this hidden for a long time. However, sense you've decided to keep the argument alive, and have now attacked Rayne, I'm going to open a can of worms.

I have a chat between me and Cheeba saved that will make your hair turn white. It goes beyond what you can imagine a chat could be.

I swore I'd never let it out. I swore that I would not stoop so low as to use it as blackmail. However, you need to back the fuck off, especially of Rayne. She's one of the most genuine people I've ever met.

Wanna take a gander at what I've got? You might find it really interesting. Wanna see what Brendon is really like behind your back?

I didn't think so.

I'm a decent sort of woman, but I can only be pushed so far. And you are about to knock me over the edge. You don't wanna do that.

Back off. Rayne just made an observation and a correct one at that.

I would say, "normally, I don't start shit," but the fact is, I didn't start anything. I didn't make this thread to stir up trouble. However, you two (I know you're reading this, B) came in with your high and mighty bullshit and started ripping into me and anyone who disagreed with you. To prove this, all you have to do is read the thread to it's entirity.

I hate the bitch, but I'm going to have to quote Fiona Apple: "Go back to the rock from under which you came take the sorrow you gave and all the stakes you claimed...and don't forget the blame."

As Zwoti would say, "Pack it in."

I <3 you Haunted!!!:p Youre just the shit!!!!;) I only have a few things to say......nah, I dont feel like getting banned!!!

For christ sake.... Can´t we just all get along in here?

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthr...;threadid=17292

I can see that. :rolleyes:

Spallalala,

you were warned pages ago. Perhaps your mind isnt getting the messages that have been sent.

Haunted,

no one would fault you for doing what you have to do. Turn the lights on and see what runs and hides under the bed. Better yet a public broadcast of the situation. That way the masses can all digest.

Yes I am being a BASTARD. Normally I say not to do laundry in public but since some want to make a public spectacle of the situation "Let them eat war."

I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

The colours of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shakin' hands, sayin' "How do you do?"
They're really saying "I love you"

I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world



*Pulling out my machine gun* ;)

I told a coworker that this song will be playing in my head as I empty magazine after magazine thru my AR15 at work.

Everything will be going in slomotion. From the bullets blasting off the service managers desk throwing paper in the air, to the service writers diving behind their desks, to the brass casings bouncing off the floor.

I have been thinking of making a short film from this very idea.

*Disclaimer*

Meetthecreeper in no way shape or form intends to polish off his coworkers now or any time in the immediate future. Just in case anyone was wondering ITS A JOKE.

I know, dude.;) LOL



I seriously think that would be a classic scene that lots and lots of movies would copy.

For real, it´s a great idea.:)

Why don't you allow me.
Digest this: I'll say this but once - I will not allow people to use information against me, so I'm here only to take that ability away from a person that I hadn't thought to actually be low enough to bring private conversations (regardless of situation and/or nature) to public attention.
Since evidently Haunted wants to hit beneath the belt anyway, why not...although, before I launch into the information people are attempting to hold against me, since I'm here for the moment, allow me to respond to some comments made in my absence. I say these things not to cause any further arguments, and if by the responses of others, this becomes the case - they will be engaging in battle by themselves.

First if all...Creeper...Numerous times you seem to have taken delight in the fact that ~OOOH~ you might know a little summin' summin' about old cheeba here. I hope this post will indicate to you clearly enough just how much I DON'T give a shit.
Like I said beforehand, any information you have is speculative at most, and biased. So you go right ahead and view your own friends through rose coloured glasses, and be a good little soldier, I don't CARE.
I never had a problem with you, but obviously you're someone that felt their friend REALLY needed to be backed up, and had to say your peice. That's ok, I voiced my opinion, you voiced...well, I'm not sure WHAT you voiced, for the better part.
As for me being the pot calling the kettle black...Unworthy of comment. I'm not here to peddle stories about others, or at least, I wasn't...However, I will say this - If actually you've convinced yourself that showing your cock to a public forum which children could easily browse while describing their sexual arousal to girls less than half your age, and private conversations that took place between two (or, so I thought) adults are AT ALL comparable, that is a shortcoming you'll have to live with. As I have admitted in my post made through Marroe, what I said about him was a deliberate, and unneccessary attack on Trippin', only in response to his comments about cowardice regarding my attitudes...I'm a little confused as to what that had to do with you, but that's alright, clearly you don't like me very much on account of being a "good friend" to another. Don't worry, SOMEHOW I'll live with that.
Wow...me AND my girlfriend? Are you looking for a....dreamsome?
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
You go right ahead and buy bulk stocks of that kind of rubbish all you want, just don't expect me to...So if that was some kind of threat, allow me to point out how seriously I take it - Go right ahead and work that voodoo you do so well, bone-daddy, if you think you can make your point more effective if you come across as "crazy guy" to me, that's just fine.
I am, however, beggining to understand why you constantly rave about the amount of guns you pack - it's PROBABLY the only way anyone that's known you for more than five minutes would actually take ANYTHING you have to say at all seriously. I was going to post more here, but I see no need to go into any great length, or start another argument - the main point I want to get across is that you'll get no response from these kind of "threats", save for laughter - For now, kick back, the show that your voyeuristic self has obviously been aching to witness is coming right up.

Sam, I have to say...you made a good point.
However, if it was just "cutting", I share similar disregard for this kind of behaviour. That's all I've really got to say on the matter.

Angela, thankyou for not leaping up to judge my opinions, and methods of delivery.

BR - I bear you no ill will.
I understand why you may have come to the conclusions you did, however, in the points potentially (eg - I have a feeling) pertaining to me, you were incorrect. This is coming from me, not my girlfriend. Of course I've followed this thread with some interest...My girl had a point, regardless of how it came across to you. I hope you're doing well all the same.

MD/hell/trippin - Nothing new to say.
You disagree with my methods on account of potentially hurting peoples feelings, I disagree with yours on account of potentially endorsing further attempts. Both are valid, and just a matter of perspective. Enough said.

So here we are, is everyone on the edge of their seats?
The incidents I am about to describe took place sometime between 1 and 2 years ago as I recall. Before then, Haunted and I spoke frequently on msn. About a lot of things really...there WAS a point I actually considered her a friend, a good friend, as anyone who has been here for a while will recall. I have respect enough not to go into specific detail, but all the same, certain topics that may be considered innapropriate for a guy involved in a relationship, and a girl who is fully aware of this, came under discussion. Admittedly, our conversations had piqued my interest enough to proceed further.
Just so people don't assume I'm skirting around the topic, the conversation lead to both parties talking about sexual history, preferences, and furthermore, into discussing and exchanging ideas in terms of scanario, methods...etc. Things were said that shouldn't have been. This happened a few times, maybe 3-4? At this point, it was actually difficult to steer the conversation towards anything BUT in the following discussions. Whatever, that's the changing nature of conversation through knowledge and familiarity I suppose.
So there you have it...I apologise to anyone perhaps expecting something a little jucier, I don't intend to make things any more graphic, that's not my style, I have more respect for both myself and haunted to make it so, not to mention - I have no intention of drawing any attention that hasn't been already with additional information. I'm not putting any "blame" for what happened on either of the two of us...things happen, whatever. Yet, it ended.
Partially because I acknowledged that it was pointless and unrealistic to pursue anything like this (geographically, and availability-wise), not to mention, I actually felt like I was doing the wrong thing...yup, had an attack of conscience...probably because I DO have a girlfriend, and a great one at that. Sure, you lot probably don't like her on account of me being the "bad guy" in these parts nowadays, but whatever...YOU don't have to. Her standing up for me is admirable, and part of what makes her the woman she is, the one I chose.
Personally, I would have liked to have continued the friendship that Heather and I once had, and I even told her so. Her solution to this situation and my decision to discontinue this kind of thing was to (for reasons of her own) back right off, and not talk to me any more whatsoever. This actually pissed me off, bigtime...I sent a few abusive emails, as I DID in fact miss our friendship. But that's in the past, as I said, the reasons were her own, therefore I am not required to understand or judge them.
Since this took place, we've made a few attempts to reconcile,
and (as you might have guessed) this hasn't come to fruition. No doubt a few of you have noticed that I've been on her ass a little in various threads, and she's given the same back in kind, as expected. I admit, going from frienship to...pondering...to not talking at all, to friendship to not talking at all again, to frienship was not something I could handle. Apparently being honest about that, and letting my former friend know this was the case makes me a real asshole. It's unfortunate, but everyone has a right to react, and feel however they want to when faced with the end of a friendship.
Here's a little trivia - haunted wasn't the only girl up in here I've breached these kinda topics with, but I'm not about to call anybody out...there's no need. I consider these people friends to this day, and know that none of it was ever serious on either end...although, they might understand why I don't talk to them quite as much these days, after reading of this incident. Simply put, it's not something I want to happen again, because friendships, for one reason or another, can be harmed, or killed when this kind of thing happens.
I want to make one thing clear, to smite any assumptions before they occur. My comments and views on the "suicide/hurting ones self" topic are in no way reprasentative of my individual "past" with haunted. I have told her, and I am telling you, if my BEST FRIEND told me about having done the same thing, the first thing they'd be greeted with would be a punch in the face, possibly multiple punches, and yes, I would turn my back on them until they solved their OWN problems.
So, Haunted...like I told you via email...this WAS over for me at the point I was banned. I have told you everything that I've wanted you to know, take from it only what you will...I don't think this thing is any longer worth it, and if I said anything that did in fact hurt your feelings up in here, that is regrettable.
Hope you folks enjoyed the show.

Have a nice day - B

Oh, and zwoti...I don't hold my banning against you.
IMO, you're the best mod here, and you performed your duty as required. Don't worry...I'M not here to crawl...just letting you know we're cool. ;)

The only thing that I have to say is, I think it really sucks to see a good friendship go down the drain. I hope you guys can work out your problems:)

I was attacking BR. I was stating the truth was I not?

As for you Haunted, thanks for the laugh. Your not a threat to me in anyway possible. Brendon had told me about your conversations a while back so its nothing new. So you dont have to stoop to your low level of blackmailing.

You live in the USA. You have nothing on me or cheebs, so whatever you say makes shit all difference in regards to the way I feel about him. I can just continue to laugh at your stupid shit .

I dont know why you all seem to think you know him better then I do. Cause thats a fucking joke in itself. You guys have known him for about 2yrs. I myself about 7yrs. So do the math. Would you like a calculator?

Some of you are telling us to shut up and just end this all, when you all should be taking your own advice and let it go.

I didn't come on to bitch, I wasn't gonna sit back and let you fools try and tell me what to think .

In my mind. Cheeba has done nothing wrong in regards to your conversations. I dont care, I just find it amusing that you would stoop to a stupid low level as to go personal with shit. Sad really when you think about it.

Craving more attention I see Haunted. You must feel great about yourself right now.

I don't know anything about the controversy that ensued from this thread and it seems as though the nastier responses were removed.

I just want to wish Haunted the best.