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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 866900)

I'm one of those oddballs who actually liked HOSTEL 2 better than the original. Although it lacked the socio-political impact of the first film, it wandered into uncomfortable and odd territory by guiding us into the hollow desparation of the type of person who needs the thrill-kill to validate his life.

That was a good part of the movie, to be honest - If the movie explored this a little more rather then focus on the female versions of the first movies - I'd of liked it more. But it was made by Eli Roth, he has his... ways with movies

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Originally Posted by itsneverover (Post 866896)

Whoa, character development is fine. Here I'll get into specifics, and yes its all my opinion on certain movie trends these days.

My example (Sorry Wickerfan) will be the Ruins...
It had a lot of suspense but no plot. It didn't build up to anything, or reveal anything or bring the characters any further as characters. Everyone was flat, boring, useless characters that I could not care for - sure they had a little 'drama' as in they were banging each other but I had more sympathy for the Mayans then these fools.

Hostel had A LOT of padding, but I can say the end bits were entertaining. Hostel 2 was horrible, downright horrible - It was the same thing but with flat uninteresting characters - almost unwatchable.

As I said though, there are exceptions - very few in my opinion. But Ias I said, I enjoyed The Collector, & Saw 3-5. But only because there was a element of mystery and dying to see whats next. I also liked the CUBE series.

I guess I don't feel it's necessary to have deep characters in a horror movie every single time; as long as the characters aren't really obnoxious (which does happen sometimes) I'm okay with having a suspense driven film.

I can't recall anyone in the 3 films mentioned that really got on my nerves or that did anything really frustratingly stupid, and that's good enough for me with this type of film.

My list of films I enjoyed from 2000-present (I'll exclude The Ruins and Hostel):

Battle Royale
Uzumaki
Final Destination
The Cell
The Devil's Backbone
The Others
Session 9
Jeepers Creepers
Frailty
Joy Ride
Signs
The Ring
28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
Ju-On The Grudge
Dark Water
The Eye
Phone
The Mothman Prophecies
Open Water
Identity
Saw
R Point
Shutter
Incident At Loch Ness
The Devil's Rejects
Wolf Creek
The Descent
The Booth
Skeleton Key
The Host
Behind The Mask The Rise Of Leslie Vernon
Lady In The Water:o
Planet Terror
The Orphanage
Joshua
Paranormal Activity
The Mist
1408
Let The Right One In
Cloverfield
The Happening:o
Quarantine
Trick R Treat
Eden Lake
Drag Me To Hell
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo

Interesting discussions

I just stumbled across the postings and I thought I might try to offer an opinion.

I have always loved horror films of all shapes sizes and sub genres. Character development is usually not the top priority in a lot of horror films
being made now. However character devlopment can (at times)ruin a movie.
The remake of Halloween is a good example.

IMO there are pieces from all of points made which are quite valid (IMO)

One last thing:

Signs, The Ring,Mothman, Lady in the Water, 1408, Drag Me to Hell,

really?

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Originally Posted by urdevil (Post 867710)

One last thing:

Signs, The Ring,Mothman, Lady in the Water, 1408, Drag Me to Hell,

really?

Yeah, really.:D

Moth Man & Drag me to Hell are awesome movies!!!