Oh, I never viewed that as hippie-ish. Well, nevertheless, what he said is true. ;)

Men (boys?) are killed in slasher films as frequently as girls, but they're killed much quicker--and their bodies are usually found by the girls, simply to heighten the amount of torture the girl goes through before she is eventually killed. The girls are chased, cut, and terrorized much more than the males. All this is of course "foreplay" in terms of what is going on up on the screen.

Hooper acknowledged this in TCM when Sally offers to have sex with The Family; what she doesn't realize is that by their terms, they already ARE. He also addresses this in 2 when Leatherface prods the girl with his saw, and then again in Funhose when the girl offers her body to the killer if he'll let her live (but he kills her---having his cake and eating it, too).

And as Argento said: "Killing is a sexual act. I like women so my killers kill women."

In the old days of Hollywood, a man could kill another man on screen, but not a woman. Not because it was conisdered meaner, but it was too much like showing sex. Dracula couldn't go for a man's neck on screen because it was deemed gay.

I'm NOT saying I agree with old Hollywood's ruling, simply that killing, at least on a subconcsious level, is seen by many man as sexual act---if not even a sexial fantasy. And I DO think the more violent slashers play on this. Just look at those bozoes who paid three thousand bucks to go on Bambi hunts, chasing naked women through the woods and shooting them with paint guns.

Well, I understand what your saying, to a point. But let me first correct you about Funhouse. The girl offers to have sex with the monster, so it wont kill her. But, when he is kissing on her neck and such, she stabs the monster in the back with some sort of sharp object, and THAT is why he kills her. As for men being the only ones who get sexualy excited by violence, I STRONGLY DISAGREE. I have to admit that I get pretty horny watching Terry O'Quinn throw his weight around in both Stepfather movies. I ecspecialy enjoyed watching him kill that one womans ex husband in the second one. Hehe Guess I'm just an evil bitch.
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I am apathetic towards the slashers because I feel they don't have enough personality for me. I am a fan of camp and over-the-top humorous gore. I like the first Hellraiser movie, I like Evil Dead series, zombie movies, and Peter Jackson's earlier works. I like pinhead over the other slashers because he talks, I like his concept. A 'silent killer' may be more scary but I watch these movies more to be entertained than scared really. I also like it when there are original ideas or good execution. ie: I liked Martin for the characterization.
I do think some slasher movies prolong the women's torture to give the male audience some kind of titillation. I feel uncomfortable seeing women (and men) brutalized, if there is no plot movement and if there is no substance to the character and she's obviously there just to be killed. I like to look at cute guys, but I wasn't titillated by Derry's fear in Jeeper's creepers. I just liked to see him on-screen. Most guys like to look at cute topless girls, so throw some in there and get more viewers. Easy enough formula, so they do it. It is creepy to think all these guys are out there turned on by watching violence towards women, but I don't think that's really how most men react to it. There's some kind of connection, but I doubt it's as clear-cut as that. Anyway I hope not!
It's much harder to come up with good ideas than gratuitous nudity as 'fan service'. Also in slashers, more often than not, the 'final girl' emerges as the heroine and beats the monster. They just have to make some more where she's not a virgin because it really does seem to put this message across that sexually active women (and men) are somehow being punished brutally. There have been quite a few books on the subject of the 'final girl'.

Yes, there have been a lot of good books on the Final Girl complex, and I'll take this moment to again recommend Clover's Men, Women, and Chain Saws. In my opinon, this kind of literate direction is the route all new genre books should take. I was very impressed.

First off, let me say that I'm a guy, I checked out this thread to see the female opinion of horror films and I think that the "Killer" in the film is really like a "do-gooder" he kills men and women who have sex and get undressed and skinny dip or what ever because pre-maridal sex has been a sin since religion was created, Jason kills teens having sex because he drowned while the counselors were screwing. he also kills them while they're having sex because they are preocupied and don't expect to be killed.
If I were a Director, I would hate to tell a girl to get undressed so that the movie will sell
I personally am tired of those stupid horror movie rules, it makes them to predictable.
Leave nudity to porn and Sex and the City

Amen.

A guy with a female as an Avatar... riiight...

So? Who give's a shit?
Ok, thats it. It's Official, you're a fag.

Uhhhhhhhhhhh...............

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Because

1) 50% of the human race is female so it makes sense that they'd get killed in roughly the same amount ratio in any given situation. (including a horror movie.)

2) Stabbing someone with a knife is not sexually suggestive unless you are a deranged lunatic. The killer is not saying he wants to have 'sex' with the victim just because he stabs them. The fact that the killer 'gets off' on their crime is irrelevant, they still are not having sex. He is saying he wants to kill them. If a knife impalement carries a sexual undertone based solely on the fact that its is a fallic object being thrust 'into' someone then...
A) Michael Myers wants to be a sister fucker.
B) Freddy Krueger is super gay because he's 'stabbed' lots of guys.
C) Just think about what it means for The Tall Man! He sends his silver ball at people to penetrate them!

3) Someone already said this, but it was a good point. The majority of horror fans were predominantly male, explaining why the older films tend to feature more scantly clad women. It is also why the newer ones tend to feature more and more dudes with their shirts off. They realize that more and more females are gaining interest in horror and they are adjusting accordingly. Sex sells.