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_____V_____ 01-29-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 663075)
looks good to me.
i might suggest putting a brief description of each and perhaps an example of a movie for each genre before you start taking recommendations. it might help to clear up any discrepancies or confusion.

I will. Lets hope to finalise the categorisation by tomorrow morning, and then I ll elaborate on each sub-genre with an example.

Looking down the list, I am pretty satisfied myself. I am wondering if Body Horror can be grouped with Weird/ Pulp. If that is done, its as good as completed.

_____V_____ 01-29-2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 663069)
Good work, folks. Very good points raised...and that changes the sub-genre list a bit, which looks like this now :
  1. Ghosts and The Supernatural
  2. English Gothic/ Haunted Houses
  3. American Gothic/ Surreal
  4. Psychological
  5. Human Atrocity
  6. Traditional/ Pagan/ Ritualistic
  7. Occult/ Demonic Possession
  8. Telekinesis/ Mind Control
  9. Human Monsters
  10. Creature Monsters
  11. Vampires
  12. Werewolves/ Shape-Shifters
  13. Golems/ Mummies
  14. Zombies/ Re-Animations
  15. Splatterpunk
  16. Slashers
  17. Comic/ Dark Humor/ Cheesy
  18. Sci-Fi Horror
  19. Weird Pulp (Body Horror under this...maybe?)
  20. Redneck/ Cannibalism


Looks like a pretty good categorisation. If all are satisfied, we can proceed to the next stage. If not, bring your views forward.

Just in case somebody misses it on the previous page.

The STE 01-29-2008 08:22 PM

I never put much stock in building lists based on individual categories. What if there's a movie that's not quite as good as five vampire movies but better than any slasher movie? Either you break a rule of the list or you leave off a movie that should, by all rights, be included.

fortunato 01-29-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 663078)
I will. Lets hope to finalise the categorisation by tomorrow morning, and then I ll elaborate on each sub-genre with an example.

Looking down the list, I am pretty satisfied myself. I am wondering if Body Horror can be grouped with Weird/ Pulp. If that is done, its as good as completed.

i wouldn't say no to that, truthfully. splitting those up might just cause more confusion and make it harder to make higher quality recommendations.

fortunato 01-29-2008 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The STE (Post 663085)
I never put much stock in building lists based on individual categories. What if there's a movie that's not quite as good as five vampire movies but better than any slasher movie? Either you break a rule of the list or you leave off a movie that should, by all rights, be included.

i hear what you're saying, but honestly, whatever hypothetical movie you're referring to is probably on one of the hdc lists already.

_____V_____ 01-29-2008 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The STE (Post 663085)
I never put much stock in building lists based on individual categories. What if there's a movie that's not quite as good as five vampire movies but better than any slasher movie? Either you break a rule of the list or you leave off a movie that should, by all rights, be included.

Valid point, but consider this...if a movie is not quite as good as five vampire movies but better than any slasher movie, it is good enough to be included in any other sub-genre...if it criss-crosses with any other sub-genre. And there are 20 of em.

If it is a 6th awesome vampire flick, it might be worth mentioning it under a prominent Honorable Mention under the Top 5 of the sub-genre. We could have 2 of em for each sub-genre.

roshiq 01-29-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 663078)
I will. Lets hope to finalise the categorisation by tomorrow morning, and then I ll elaborate on each sub-genre with an example.

Great initiative V! I'm sure that it'll be another excellent list of horrors that's gonna enrich this forum to a great deal. Hope everyone who can contribute to develop the list will give their best effort.

I think you have already categorized the genres in all possible way. Till waiting for the final categorization.

ChronoGrl 01-30-2008 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 663034)
BODY HORROR

Tetsuo
The Brood
Videodrome
Shivers
The Fly remake
Baby Blood
X the man with X-Ray Eyes
The Amazing Colossal Man
Attack of the 50-ft woman
The Incredible Shrinking Man

Thanks, Rod... I've seen Tetsuo, 50-Ft Woman, and Shrinking Man, so I think I'm starting to understand the sub-genre.

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 663034)
Good work, folks. Very good points raised...and that changes the sub-genre list a bit, which looks like this now :

1. Ghosts and The Supernatural
2. English Gothic/ Haunted Houses
3. American Gothic/ Surreal
4. Psychological
5. Human Atrocity
6. Traditional/ Pagan/ Ritualistic
7. Occult/ Demonic Possession
8. Telekinesis/ Mind Control
9. Human Monsters
10. Creature Monsters
11. Vampires
12. Werewolves/ Shape-Shifters
13. Golems/ Mummies
14. Zombies/ Re-Animations
15. Splatterpunk
16. Slashers
17. Comic/ Dark Humor/ Cheesy
18. Sci-Fi Horror
19. Weird Pulp (Body Horror under this...maybe?)
20. Redneck/ Cannibalism



Looks like a pretty good categorisation. If all are satisfied, we can proceed to the next stage. If not, bring your views forward.

That's pretty good, V... Could I just make a wee suggestion? Along with Fortunado, I think that a brief description would definitely be necessary (because while I understand your rationale, I know for a FACT that the verbiage and semantics of "genre" is eventually going to drive me mad)... I also think that the sub-sub-genres that have been brought up by other members should be included as sub-bullet-points (to be clear, for example that "Torture Porn" is under "Human Atrocity," and "Infection" is under "Zombies," and etc).

_____V_____ 01-30-2008 08:07 AM

Okay since there arent any objections to the sub-genre categorisation till now, I guess they will stand.

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 663173)
That's pretty good, V... Could I just make a wee suggestion? Along with Fortunado, I think that a brief description would definitely be necessary (because while I understand your rationale, I know for a FACT that the verbiage and semantics of "genre" is eventually going to drive me mad)... I also think that the sub-sub-genres that have been brought up by other members should be included as sub-bullet-points (to be clear, for example that "Torture Porn" is under "Human Atrocity," and "Infection" is under "Zombies," and etc).

Sure thing, Chrono. Here we go...

1. Ghosts and The Supernatural - As is evident. Best example - Poltergeist.

2. English Gothic/ Haunted Houses - Basic theme of a dark past shadowing the present. These stories are abundant in enclosed or haunted settings, such as castles, crypts, dungeons, and mansions. There are also gloomy images of ruin, decay, imprisonment, cruelty, and persecution. For example - The Haunting.

3. American Gothic/ Surreal - It focuses on psychological breakdown, rather than the gloomy setting. For example - Jacob's Ladder.

4. Psychological - Fear of the unknown and affecting the human psyche. Example - Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.

5. Human Atrocity - Covers the brutality done by humans on fellow human beings. Includes Torture Porn and sadistic flicks. Example - Last House on the Left.

6. Traditional/ Pagan/ Ritualistic - Horror perceived in the religious sense. Includes movies about Devil's worship, witchcraft and Christian Horror. Example - The Omen.

7. Occult/ Demonic Possession - Bodies taken over by other-worldly spirits, manifestations and exorcisms done on em. Example - The Exorcist.

8. Telekinesis/ Mind Control - Use of mind over matter either to dominate or seeking revenge. Example - Scanners.

9. Human Monsters - Created by man or his psyche, rooting for domination over life. Example - Frankenstein.

10. Creature Monsters - As is evident. When creatures other than man decide to take matters into their own hands. Example - Jaws.

11. Vampires - Creatures of the night, driven by an insatiable appetite for human blood only. Example - Horror of Dracula.

12. Werewolves/ Shape-Shifters - Once bitten, they turn into a "werewolf" every full moon and rip anything apart. Example - Silver Bullet.

13. Golems/ Mummies - Animated beings created from either well-preserved but long-dead human bodies or inanimate matter through a set of rituals. Example - The Mummy.

14. Zombies/ Re-Animations - A corpse brought back to life by either Voodoo, supernatural or scientific means. Limited intelligence and a hunger for human flesh. Includes diseased and infected re-animations. For Example - Night of the Living Dead.

15. Splatterpunk - Gross-out, gorific horror at its best. Blood, guts and disturbing images which send the stomachs churning. Example - Dead Alive.

16. Slashers - Involves a killer who stalks and murders his victims. Usually referred to as bodycount flicks too. Example - Friday the 13th.

17. Comic/ Dark Humor/ Cheesy - Satire added to horror. Example - Shaun of the Dead

18. Sci-Fi Horror - Totally set under a sci-fi setting. Horrors of deep space, or experiments gone awry in horrific ways. Example - Alien.

19. Weird Pulp - Includes tales of strange, bizarre occurrences which make audiences go "Oh my God what did we just see?!". Includes Body/ Erotic Horror. Best example - Tetsuo.

20. Redneck/ Cannibalism - Humans living outside the society and preying on others. Includes mutants and cannibals. Example - The Hills Have Eyes.



I know that every sub-genre of horror overlaps with each other. When you consider a particular movie, think over it for a few seconds and decide which sub-genre would suit it best. For example, if Re-Animator made you smile more, then it will be considered under Comic Horror rather than Sci - Fi Horror.

Confused?;)

My advice, go for the best in every sub-genre which has an overall effect of THAT particular sub-genre throughout the movie. The effect it had on you, as a viewer, is the one that counts. Happy choosing!

So, as of this moment, I declare the project open!

If there are plenty of good recommendations in a particular sub-genre which are worth mentioning and go beyond the most-popular chosen 5, we will have a Honorable Mentions at the end of each sub-genre, which will be reserved for 2 flicks each...so that they too get their place in the limelight.

My email inbox and PM inbox wait for your recommendations. Choose wisely, HDC...for you will be choosing a unique set of 100 movies which will suit the tastes of particular audiences of the Horror genre. All the best!:cool:


Voting officially ends on Sunday, February 10th, 2008. Mark that on your calendars.

_____V_____ 01-30-2008 08:55 AM

Received the first PM full of recommendations for each sub-genre.

Although leaning a bit towards modern horror, but a good effort nevertheless. Kudos!


Which brings me to an important reminder...

Blurbs - We will be adding blurbs to each chosen movie.

The first member who has PMed me has already booked 3 of his recommendations in advance, if they are in the final chosen 100.

Blurbs will be given out on a strictly first-come-first-serve basis. If the member declines a blurb, or is unable to send me his/her blurb within a week of the final 100 being posted, the particular movie blurb will be freed for anyone else to claim it.


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