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Phalanx 11-24-2006 07:36 PM

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House On Haunted Hill is based on true events, I saw it on the history channel awhile back
Just like TCM was? Just like you can find some kind of "real" stories behind most horror films before they pick up a half million embellishments along the way? You're not saying much...and on the "demon possession" bit...I personally think it's complete bullshit, I'll believe something when I see it. Logic defines my perspective on anything out of the ordinary...just because it doesn't with you, has therefore made it seem more "realistic" in your eyes. Doesn't mean it is. Just stems off from your personal belief, highly doubtful that it comes from an actual personal experience (but yknow...whatever you say).
I think that maybe "realistic/unrealistic" isn't quite the best focal point for this particular discussion, because evidently (as we've both proven with our individual perspectives), the term is pretty subjective.
Difference is, I don't think ANY of it is realistic...but I don't let that spoil the movie for me.

Shady 11-24-2006 07:39 PM

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Around Ann Arbor, GO LIONS!
Lol, football fan eh. Im all for Falcons no matter how bad Vick has been doing lately.

Despare 11-24-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shady (Post 514092)
Lol, football fan eh. Im all for Falcons no matter how bad Vick has been doing lately.

The one team the Lions beat, yeah good choice. ;)

Anyway, realism in movies is ok but some movies should always tell of a fantasy or some other alternate reality, news flash man, it's true... it's damn true. :)

Shady 11-24-2006 07:49 PM

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The one team the Lions beat, yeah good choice.

Anyway, realism in movies is ok but some movies should always tell of a fantasy or some other alternate reality, news flash man, it's true... it's damn true.
Ya I cried that game :(
I agree movies do need to have fantasy. Although I dislike them many people enjoy them and like I said everyone has there own taste and they need to have genres for everyone.

Roderick Usher 11-25-2006 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shady (Post 514094)
I said everyone has there own taste

There?

I think you meant "their"

Nchantress 11-25-2006 09:52 AM

Back to the unrealistic/realistic thing. May I take a stab? Perhaps what Mr. Shady was getting at was possibility? Maybe that's a better term than unrealistic.
I understand why people don't believe in paranormal things, and then the possession stuff, but I think that a good number of those people (if not the majority) believe that there is at least a possibility that they are real. No matter the likelihood.
I tend to like more possible movies myself, because it's scarier to me that what I am seeing could happen.
For instance, I think we would all agree that Vampires and Werewolves don't exist (I don't mean to insult anyone's beliefs). However, we don't know for a fact do we? So it's cool to think, well hey, maybe they do.
Just a thought.

Haunted 11-25-2006 11:18 AM

Well put, Bree.

There are anthropologists who've been studying possession for years, because there are so many cultures and traditions that believe in possesion. So many things have been done "about" a person's possession. I'd say yes that it's definitely possible, however my theory could be countered by anyone. My philosophy is that a person has to invite the entity inside, so all someone has to say is that it isn't an entity but the person's own mind.

Ultimately, it all honestly boils down to what you've experienced, but even that is subject. Look at all of the people who experience something frightening or something they don't understand, and two days later they don't believe anymore. Experience can create a deep belief or connection, or it can scare you so much that you'd rather not believe. That's why I say that it comes down to experience.

As for vampires, werewolves, and zombies... Not on this particular side of the omniverse;)

Which is my point, writers don't get this shit from eating their Wheaties and then drinking 300$ red wine. These are a part of oral traditions and then part of them come from forensic pathology, criminal investigations, dreams, visions. Ya can't make this shit up.

Movies are stories that you don't have to really imagine. A bad movie is a film that you know isn't real...dig? What I mean is, if I go see a film, and can see the actor, not the character, I'm done. It's gonna suck. However, if the [I]story[I] takes hold... That's groovy.

My thing is that you've got to ride the story, like you would in a book. Some situations are going to get nutty, but you just ride the story, and it will make sense.

Shady 11-25-2006 11:41 AM

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There?

I think you meant "their"
This isn't English class. I know the difference between "there", "their", and "they're", but when I'm in a rush and I am typing without paying any attention to whether I am using proper grammar I don't really care.

if u wuld like i culd talk like half of the people on this site and write like dis

When I type the majority of my sentences are proper grammar. I use periods, commas, apostrophes, capitalization, but when it comes down to using their, there, or they're I honestly do not care. If I'm not in a rush and I have nothing better to do I will correctly spell check my paragraphs from now on if that will make you feel better.

Nikkif8 11-25-2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Phalanx (Post 514088)
Just like TCM was? Just like you can find some kind of "real" stories behind most horror films before they pick up a half million embellishments along the way? You're not saying much...and on the "demon possession" bit...I personally think it's complete bullshit, I'll believe something when I see it. Logic defines my perspective on anything out of the ordinary...just because it doesn't with you, has therefore made it seem more "realistic" in your eyes. Doesn't mean it is. Just stems off from your personal belief, highly doubtful that it comes from an actual personal experience (but yknow...whatever you say).
I think that maybe "realistic/unrealistic" isn't quite the best focal point for this particular discussion, because evidently (as we've both proven with our individual perspectives), the term is pretty subjective.
Difference is, I don't think ANY of it is realistic...but I don't let that spoil the movie for me.

TCM is not actually based on true events. They made it seem that way. If anything it is based on shit Ed Gein did, that's all. There is not any truth in TCM.
Anyhow, I can see what Shady is saying. I too can not get into sci-fi movies much at all. Anything that is extremely unbelievable puts me over the edge. I do agree it is one persons own opinion of what is realistic or not though. I personally like slasher movies even tho I think they are very unrealistic, I love Haunting movies cause I believe in that though never experienced in it, and I love movies like Se7en and Saw ect cause they could happen for sure!

Vodstok 11-25-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikkif8 (Post 514283)
TCM is not actually based on true events. They made it seem that way. If anything it is based on shit Ed Gein did, that's all. There is not any truth in TCM.
Anyhow, I can see what Shady is saying. I too can not get into sci-fi movies much at all. Anything that is extremely unbelievable puts me over the edge. I do agree it is one persons own opinion of what is realistic or not though. I personally like slasher movies even tho I think they are very unrealistic, I love Haunting movies cause I believe in that though never experienced in it, and I love movies like Se7en and Saw ect cause they could happen for sure!

it is in fact very very vaguely based on ed gein. leatherface's mask is inspired by ed making a suit out of women's skin, although buffalo bill is a better example. And they believe he did practice some cannibalism. Thats about it.


Oh, and in case anyone cared, ed gein is techincally not a serial killer, he was a sick fuck, but he had to have at least 3 victims with a "cooling down" period in between by most efinitions, and he only killed 2.


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