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Vodstok 11-03-2006 08:26 AM

I never particularly cared for nudity in movies. For the most part, i am neutral about it, if it's there, whatever. When it becomes intrusive, then i dont like it. When it is simply tacke don because the movie was going to have an R rating anyway, then i have no use for it. however, there are plenty of movies where it was just fine, to being integral to the plot (or just tastefully done as to not pull you out of the established atmosphere):

Terminator. Completely justified, and handled very well.
The Abyss. If you are watching her naked breasts in that part of the movie, you have HUGE problems...
Titanic. Perhaps not necesarry, but still handled well. plus, when was the last time you saw bigger than b-cups in a movie that werent saline or silicone?


okay.. well.. i seem to have established that Jim Cameron knows how to shoot knockers with class....

I knwo there are other out there, I am just drawing a blank.

newb 11-03-2006 08:28 AM

Cat People used nudity in a very casual and tasteful manner.

Vodstok 11-03-2006 08:29 AM

Ohh.. Example of a nude scene i had no use for: Starship Troopers... Too much dude, for one thing... But, IMHO, not a looker in the bunch... Dina Meyer is SCARY topless. Eek...


is there more too it than me just not htinking a single person in the scene was attractive? Yep. The whole thing could have just as easily taken place in a lunch room. It pulled me out of the movie, and it doesnt help that pail verhoven was pretty honest about just wanting a scene where they showed that everyone would get naked in the same area together in his future world. Did it in Robocop too



By the same token, the little bit that was in Total Recall was completely in place. It was whore house on Mars...of course a whore house (brothel, whatever) is going to have body parts flashed about...

Roderick Usher 11-03-2006 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scaryminda15 (Post 501866)
because nudity is just gross. but violence is sexy and hot in my opinion.

it's this kind of fucked up attitude that really pisses me off.

and yes, I find violence hot and sexy, but I find most things dealing with the flesh sexy.

Nudity is YOU! do you hate yourself?

You came into the world nude, you bathe nude, you fuck nude, being nude is the natural state of all humankind. A body is a body is a body.

PhilnEdee 11-03-2006 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 501842)
Our country was founded by, and is still under the control of, religious extremists.

Tell me about it. My city is in dire need of some financial assistance...yet the Churches have come together and killed a wet/dry reforendum that would inject an estimated $2million in new tax revenue to this city annually...they squashed it with a moral mudslinnging campaign entitled the Citizens to keep our city safe...we are the only city in the county that is dry...we are 8 minutes away from not one, but two wet cities....unbelievable.

As for nudity, from a parents standpoint I don't care too much for it in mainstream movies...doesn't offend me at all, just don't like to watch a sex scene in a horor movie that my 14yo wants to watch with us...oh and by the way...the same Church(es) group caused the video stores in this city to have to remove all pornographic/back room movies in 1990...now its alcohol...in 5 years it will be the Citizens to keep the city THIN and they will try to force a ban on all BUFFET restaurants in the area.

urgeok 11-03-2006 08:35 AM

if you're making a movie about people - and complaining about a scene involving nudity - its like complaining about scenes where people are eating dinner. Or shopping, or sleeping.

sometimes people are nude each day ! gasp !

i dont think many people after sex sit up in bed talking with the covers up around their necks as a rule.

people really dont put on roves over their nightgowns in the summer to go downstairs to get a glass of water..


there is nothing natural about the way nudity is handled in films in america.

and yeah - in dumb slasher movies nudity is taked on .. big fake tits for the horny teenage male viewers .. but so what - the movie is shit anyway and usually the little flash of breast flesh is the only redeeming quality of the film. and it gives a truely untalented los angeles blonde clone a way to make a couple of bucks off her knees.


but the italian/french films ... they handle nudity the way it should be - a reflection of how it exists in day to day life.
and if it is a film about love and sex is an integral part of the film .. then the scene will be worth watching ..

Vodstok 11-03-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilnEdee (Post 501886)
Tell me about it. My city is in dire need of some financial assistance...yet the Churches have come together and killed a wet/dry reforendum that would inject an estimated $2million in new tax revenue to this city annually...they squashed it with a moral mudslinnging campaign entitled the Citizens to keep our city safe...we are the only city in the county that is dry...we are 8 minutes away from not one, but two wet cities....unbelievable.

As for nudity, from a parents standpoint I don't care too much for it in mainstream movies...doesn't offend me at all, just don't like to watch a sex scene in a horor movie that my 14yo wants to watch with us...oh and by the way...the same Church(es) group caused the video stores in this city to have to remove all pornographic/back room movies in 1990...now its alcohol...in 5 years it will be the Citizens to keep the city THIN and they will try to force a ban on all BUFFET restaurants in the area.

Watch out, once they burn Allessa, you are all fucked....

Miss Olivia 11-03-2006 08:52 AM

Nudity doesn't bother me....graphic sex scenes are another matter. I can't watch stuff like that with my nine year old. He's going to do it one day whether I agree or not, I just don't want him to be obssessed with doing it before he hits puberty. Just me. I'm not saying anybody else's child rearing techniques are right or wrong, velcro them to the ceiling for all I care, it's just my personal feeling about it. I've met way too many people who lost their virginity at eleven or twelve, but so far I've only met one preteen murderer.:p

Despare 11-03-2006 09:01 AM

With gore it's not real. It's incredible to watch the creativity and talent that goes into making something fake look so disgustingly real that it makes people sick. With nudity it's real, it's already there and showing nudity isn't as tough as creating good gore. I don't have a problem with nudity in movies or in life at all but I will say this; I have thought a movie or two would have been better with more or more realistic gore but never thought a movie NEEDED more nudity.

bloodrayne 11-03-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 501856)
well, i think your analogy breaks down here .. your posts suggests that horror is ok because it's fake, and nudity (which you keep curiously equating with sex - is real) but porno (which i never mentioned - just nudity) is ok if it's a porno you want..

*sigh*...Let me try again...I equate sex with nudity, because in most (not all, but most) movies where there is nudity there is sex, about to be sex, or just had sex, people have sex when they're naked...As for ME, I have no interest in watching people have sex, or seeing people naked...As for my son, he has no interest in sex (he's 11), and needs not to have any interest piqued yet, and I was hoping that the first time he saw a woman naked it would be something special for him...I would like for him to remain innocent of adult matters until he is an adult...If he has seen a million naked chicks before he even has a girlfriend, how special will his first experience really be?...How much MORE special might it have been?...I don't think I can explain it any better than that...and I'm trying like hell...lol

As for the porno thing...I personally would never watch a porno...I'm just saying that if I wanted to see naked people, I would watch a porno...And I would be surprised if people were getting their guts ripped out in a porno...And I would never allow my son to watch a porno...


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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 501856)
personally - I think north american sex senes ARE boring as hell.. its about as appealing as cleaning fish...

I agree...which is another reason that I'd rather keep it out of my horror movies...

I have nothing against nudity or sex...In fact I LOVE nudity and I can't get enough sex...BUT...I wouldn't have sex in the grocery store, it's the wrong place for it, as is a horror movie (in MY opinion)...And, again, I have no desire to see any strangers naked...AND, my son doesn't need to see it AT ALL...Not yet, anyway...

Okay...I'll break it down like this:

For ME: It's boring and wastes time that could be spent on something 'horrorish'...and I REALLY do not want to watch other people have sex...

For my kids: It limits which movies they can watch, and that sucks...And it isn't just a matter of me not wanting them to see it, THEY don't want to see it either...

I can't make it anymore simple than that

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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 501856)
i love the way europeans are completely aware that its a natural part of being human... and they celebrate it.

Agreed...But...Can't we leave something for the kids to look forward to when they're adults?


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