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barbra 04-18-2005 11:18 AM

the agressives will kill the agressives and "the meek shall inherite the earth"

meetthecreeper 04-18-2005 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
there's a lot of sheep getting killed by 'wolves' in their own homes - with no thoughts other than they should be safe in their own homes .. or that their husband wont kill them when they've been drinking.. or they didnt know that working as a teller in a bank or a clerk in a convenience store was a license to be killed.

there are sheep, wolves, and shepherds - to use your analogy - i think it is far more noble and rewarding to be a shepherd.
There's a reason that wolves are an endangered species ...

Urge as always you are right on target, but IMO who the hell wants to be a shepherd???

Not me, the sheep are too damn stupid except to be led to a slaughter.

Remember Clarice, tried to let the spring lambs free and what did they do?

Huddled in the corner and screamed.

You are right that there is a majority of violence going on in the home and its a shame, but rarely are there not warning signs.

The sheeple need to see the warning signs, I cant tell you the number of times I have been in a situation that I got out of just based on being able to see the signs.

By the way, in North America,(I dont know about Canada) the Timberwolf is making a major comeback. (Not to toot my own horn but, thanks to people like me) I would have to check but I do believe that they were taken off the endangered list and possibly the threatened list.

urgeok 04-18-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Urge as always you are right on target, but IMO who the hell wants to be a shepherd???

Not me, the sheep are too damn stupid except to be led to a slaughter.

Remember Clarice, tried to let the spring lambs free and what did they do?

Huddled in the corner and screamed.

You are right that there is a majority of violence going on in the home and its a shame, but rarely are there not warning signs.

The sheeple need to see the warning signs, I cant tell you the number of times I have been in a situation that I got out of just based on being able to see the signs.

By the way, in North America,(I dont know about Canada) the Timberwolf is making a major comeback. (Not to toot my own horn but, thanks to people like me) I would have to check but I do believe that they were taken off the endangered list and possibly the threatened list.

who wants to be a shepherd ... well to some extent you and me .. and anyone else with kids .. thats our sphere of influence ..
they are the major means for us to make a difference.
There are other subtler ways .. by being a strong good person that might influence others in a small way ...

the challenge is that while i'm trying to bring up my kid right, there are 500,000 other people in my city alone who are incapable and/or dont give a shit. One of their kids may some day point a gun at my kid because they didnt like the way he looked at him.

I think your analogy of a wolf/superior individual is more suited for the shepherd anyway ... if you're sure you have what it takes, then its better to be a leader than a loner.

As much as i think the world is filled with stupid uncaring dangerous people - i still meet a few from time to time that make the ride worth it.

i have a shitpile of movies to watch, a house full of music to listen to and books to read .. and a family i want to see grow up ..
I have countries i want to visit, oceans i want to scuba dive in, a lot of shit i want to do,
It wouldnt serve me to quit on the world yet ..

Aasiyan 04-18-2005 04:17 PM

People are something else. Lets say you have a group of happy people. Um, about five people. You put one mean, drama causing person into the mix. About less than one month later, all the happy people are bitter people, and they go out into the world where they intigrate into other pockets of happiness, bleeding it dry. Then, there is no happiness anywhere!

urgeok 04-18-2005 04:20 PM

5 stupid people maybe ..

a smart person cuts the asshole out of his/her life ..
its like having an anchor tied around your neck.

Aasiyan 04-18-2005 04:22 PM

If you work with that person though, it's a little difficult to cut them out of your life. It's amazing how one person can cause such a funk.

urgeok 04-19-2005 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by Aasiyan
If you work with that person though, it's a little difficult to cut them out of your life. It's amazing how one person can cause such a funk.
5 people cant approach one and say - fuck off, your destroying the work environment ?

Aasiyan 04-19-2005 02:18 PM

We've told her. The problem is, she happens to be a supervisor and she has the boss in her pocket. She would hang around just to be spiteful.

meetthecreeper 04-20-2005 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aasiyan
We've told her. The problem is, she happens to be a supervisor and she has the boss in her pocket. She would hang around just to be spiteful.
Sounds to me like she is a vampyre, comes in a room and just sucks the life out of it.

IMO the best thing to do is cut her out of your circle of life, pretend she isnt there.

Sooner than you think she will be gone, people like this live for drama, without they cant live.

meetthecreeper 04-20-2005 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
who wants to be a shepherd ... well to some extent you and me .. and anyone else with kids .. thats our sphere of influence ..
they are the major means for us to make a difference.
There are other subtler ways .. by being a strong good person that might influence others in a small way ...

the challenge is that while i'm trying to bring up my kid right, there are 500,000 other people in my city alone who are incapable and/or dont give a shit. One of their kids may some day point a gun at my kid because they didnt like the way he looked at him.

I think your analogy of a wolf/superior individual is more suited for the shepherd anyway ... if you're sure you have what it takes, then its better to be a leader than a loner.

As much as i think the world is filled with stupid uncaring dangerous people - i still meet a few from time to time that make the ride worth it.

i have a shitpile of movies to watch, a house full of music to listen to and books to read .. and a family i want to see grow up ..
I have countries i want to visit, oceans i want to scuba dive in, a lot of shit i want to do,
It wouldnt serve me to quit on the world yet ..

Again I agree with what you have said, having children myself, what you said makes total sense.

I havent given up on the rest of the world either regardless of my cynical attitude.

I often feel like I was meant for something better than this, but where to begin.

I have to say Urgeok, it would be interesting to know you in real life. You sound like someone with a good head on their shoulders. That is something that seems to be lacking around here.


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