i loved the wcw i watched it every monday night i love scott hall he was the koolest IMO and nash rocked to but when they split the nwo into 2 different kinds it all started to fall apart but lemme say that the ultimate nWo would be HALL, Nash, Sting, Steiner, DDP, and Hogan but when WcW was up and running i hardly ever watched the WWF, but now the WWE iz for shit i kant even keep up with it no more

Shane McMahon is a great wrestler. He would definitely fit in with the NWA-TNA with all of his insane stunts. Does anybody agree?

YEAH HE WOULD FIT IN THERE NICELY BUT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

I could see him in the X division. They could rekindle his fued with X-Pac and put on a helluva match that I know they are capable of.

AUSTIN KICKED HALL AND NASH'S ASS AT WRESTLEMANIA 18.

Tell me you don't still think wrestling is real, right?:)

HELL NO WHERE THE HELL YOU GET THAT IDEA FROM?

From what you posted a minute ago. Just hoping you didn't really think, in what I like to call real life, that Austin could take two huge dudes.

By the way, who do you think the toughest wrestler would be in real life? I mean if they ever did get into a huge brawl who would come out on top?

My vote is probably Sean O'haire or Goldberg...maybe even Angle.

I have a question. A couple of years ago, did the WWF merge with the WCW? I remember Shane McMahon revealing it on the WCW program on TNT and a bunch of wrestlers then came to Raw Is War, etc. Was that another "angle" (in wrestlespeak) ? Is there still no longer a WCW?

Vince bought them out and made a crappy angle around it. WCW...no longer exists. I promised myself I wouldn't cry.:(

"My vote is probably Sean O'haire or Goldberg...maybe even Angle."

BWAAAAAAAAAAA! Even as an announcer, Taz would still beat the shit out of Goldberg in a real fight!

Sorry guys, but Kurt Angle would beat the shit out of just about anyone in the WWF right now. As could Brock (whatever his name is).

My lord, I guarantee you Nash would whip Goldberg's ass in a real fight. Goldberg got his ass kicked a couple times in practice by Falcon players. He is all image compared to true bad asses LMFAO!

Saturn would have beat the hell out of Goldberg if given a chance. Look up the wrestlers martial arts history and you'd be surprised on many of them.

Shawn Michaels is probably a wuss in real life. :cool:

Yes, he is. However, he is still one of the two best wrestlers (Flair the other) I've ever seen in my life.

Wait, how can you just say that matter-of-factly? Have you sparred with the guy? Haha.

And why did you say "sorry guys" about Angle? We both agree on that.:confused:

I left off Saturn cuz he hasn't been around in a while. I know he's an ex-ranger so he can surely kick ass. O'Haire does the tuff-man competitions though. So that's why I included him.

1. What does sparring have to do regarding is someone is a better fake wrestler?

2. You gave Angle as a third choice, as I saw it. Angle would beat the hell out of Goldberg with ease. Ask the Giant about going one-on-one with Brock and Angle. I could keep on going regarding this. ;)

3. Tough Man doesn't mean jack. I've beaten up guys that have won matches in that, and gotten my ass kicked by others that never fought in it. That only considers your HANDS in a fight. If you mean a pure boxing match, then Angle wouldn't beat many guys in the WWF. I assumed you meant pure fighting ability.

1. First off, no one was talking about fake wrestling. We were talking about real life. MichaelMyers said "I bet Shawn Michaels is a wuss in real life." You said "Yes, he is."

2. Ok, I'll ask the Giant the next time I see him.

3. You lost me. I see that you are a law student so you obviously like arguing. So I'm gonna leave it at that...especially since you beaten up guys who were in Tough Man comps.:)

1. I stated HBK was a wuss in real life. Go read my response. I then threw in that although he is a big pussy, he is still one of the top two pro wrestlers (both are wusses in real life) I've ever seen. You then replied questioning my statement regarding Shawn. I never said Shawn could beat ass in real life. ;)

2. Do that. :p

3. Yes, I do like arguing lol. However, being in tough man contests don't mean much. That is basically non-skilled boxing contests. That doesn't factor into real life fighting (like I assumed was the original question). When you take away your legs and any holds, that takes away most true fighting. That was my only response to that issue. I wasn't trying to pump up the fact I've beaten up some tough man contestents (lord knows I wouldn't admit non-tough men have beat me in fights lol).

You're completely not understanding me. I just wanted to know what information you were basing your story on that HBK is such a pussy? Now I want to know why Flair is such a "real life" pussy too? I know you never said Shawn could beat ass in real life, I never questioned that either. I just questioned why you think he's such a pussy. MichaelMyers suggested he might be a pussy and you said "yes, he is." like you knew the guy. I questioned why you said that, what do you know about the guy that makes him such a real life wuss? Just alot of miscommunication going on.

One more thing: I used the tough man thing generically. I didn't mean just boxing matches. O’Haire has gone undefeated in shootfighting tournaments, kickboxing and boxing matches. I should have specified that. I think he is a certifiable badass.

Ah okay. Damn the Internet. It always creates miscommunication! lol

1. HBK has never been known as a tough guy in real life. Nash, and others, have saved his ass in documented fights in the industry when fights occur in bars. I love Shawn more than any wrestler (before his new version) ever, but he isn't exactly a bad ass.

2. Flair had to be saved in fights regarding jealous competitors many times in the NWA and early WCW. He'll never be confused with a true bad ass real life fighter in the industry.

3. This whole "wuss" verse "bad ass fighter" definition really depends on our measuring stick. Perhaps we should clarify that before sticking wrestlers into certain categories. I was using certain wrestlers against others in the industry. If we mean them in all out fights against regular people like us, or against the regular Joe in tough man contests, that is a much lower standard than in the league of most other wrestlers and true real life bad asses that compete in world martial arts competitions.

See, that's all I wanted to know. I've never heard about these bar fights. I see where you are coming from now. Did you see what I meant about O'haire though?

O'Haire looks like a bad ass, but I've never heard anything regarding him in real life fights. Over the years, I've noticed looks can be deceiving. In ECW you wouldn't believe who was the biggest bad ass in the ENTIRE organization. It was Tommy Rich (think that was his FBI name). He was in the FBI and had curly hair. He looks like a pussy, but he beat the shit out of any ECW fighter that messed with him, and when he was in the WWF and WCW (long before ECW) he beat the hell out of several wrestlers. I would have never guessed him as a bad ass, but even Taz and Saturn would stay away from him when he was drunk in ECW. Now THAT is some "bad ass" respect. :eek:

Hell, now that I think about it, I think Rich was the old guy. Who was the curly haird guy that tagged with Guito (sp?) alot? That is who I mean. I can't think of his name. I think Rich may have been the old guy that never wrestled now that I think about it.

Tracy Smothers???

That's him!!!!!! That guy supposedly beat the hell out of any wrestler he ever fought. You wouldn't believe it looking at him, but apparantly he kicked everyone else's ass in fights. I just crack up picturing him and knowing all those big guys were scared of him. LMFAO!!!!!!

That's awesome. I totally saw Sabu throw his ass through a table in Georgetown. Someone also threw a coke and hit him in the head. The security guys thought it was my friends and I (we were the only college students there). Glad ole Tracy didn't think it was us.:(

I'd like to say something regarding Austin kicking Nash and Hall's ass at Wrestlemaini X8.

1. It's not real.
2. Austin may have won the match but he got his ass kicked badly. He was acting like such a pussy in that match it isn't funny.
That is all. Oh, I would also like to say that Mark henry annoys me. They say he's the world's strongest man. Sure maybe he won the competition one year but thats one fuckin year. men win that thing every year. So he can't say he's the world's strondest man.

Yeah, that is probably a good thing. Although, I'm sure he was used to it. The sad thing is, judging by his looks, that would be a wrestler I'd talk shit to. As it turns out, that would be one of the last wrestlers I'd want to do that to. Thank God I was never drunk and in that position. I wouldn't have fared too well against that guy. :(

"One more thing: I used the tough man thing generically. I didn't mean just boxing matches. O’Haire has gone undefeated in shootfighting tournaments, kickboxing and boxing matches. I should have specified that. I think he is a certifiable badass."

Okay, I went back and found that quote. I have no idea about any of O'Haire's fighting background. If he has been in many shootfighting tournaments and done that, I wouldn't want to piss off that roided up beast! lol
:eek:

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TOUGH AS IN TOTAL FIGHTING ABILITY OR TOUGH AS IN HOW MUCH PAIN HE CAN TAKE. CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ASNSWER THE QUESTION TILL I UNDERSTAND IT.

Well judging from the huge-ass conversation myself and NirvanaNole had :D I would just say answer with who you think is a total badass (fighting ability and intelligence, and tolerance of pain and determination...and whatever else makes a good fighter). I'm still saying O'haire and Angle but I think he convinced my to drop Goldberg.

I was referring to who would win if two guys fought for real. If we were just talking about who could take the most pain, Mick Foley and Terry Funk would win with ease.

I'm surprised either of those fellows can still walk. I have to throw Sabu on that list as well. Crazy mofo's.

Stone Cold's Team lost god damn it. No more Stone Cold. Screw Eric Bischoff. Raw is not going to be the same.:(

Hell, that's the best news I've heard all night. Thanks FreddyFan. You know his ass will come back sometime though.

Cool! John Cena got the deciding pin for his team! Word life!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Mr. McMahon just buried the Undertaker alive thanx to the help of his little brother Kane.:eek: Damn bitch!

The plan is that the Undertaker goes away for a couple of months (Wrestlemania XX?) and then comes back as his original 'dead man' gimmick.

I didn't even realize there was a PPV tonight.

Kane was ten times better with the mask.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE THIS BUT EVER SINCE KANE TOOK THE MASK OFF HE'S BEEN BEATIN THE FUCK OUTTA PEOPLE.