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illdojo 10-22-2011 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 907761)
Thoughts on Wednesday's episode? Man, this show is such a mess, but I'm enjoying the heck out of it.

I agree it is a mess but the characters and acting save it..imo. I think as the show moves on and the more that is revealed will make it that much better. I really dig the animosity between Moira and Constance. Something will definitely go down between those two. Can't wait for the new episode.

ChronoGrl 10-25-2011 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 907761)
Thoughts on Wednesday's episode? Man, this show is such a mess, but I'm enjoying the heck out of it.

Just watched it last night - I absolutely love this show. Every minute of it.

I don't think that I'd necessarily call it "a mess" - I think that there's definitely method to the madness - I really like how it intertwines history and the present, and I have to say, the end actually made me feel wonderfully melancholic. The backstory for the doctor and Nora made me absolutely giddy - Loved it.

One of the things that I really appreciate about this show is that, ultimately, it's a soap opera - The forward storyline is a complete, cliched soap opera - But in the midst of a delightfully twisted horror backdrop - I feel as though this show was made for horror fans like myself. I absolutely love it.

fortunato 10-25-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 908008)
One of the things that I really appreciate about this show is that, ultimately, it's a soap opera - The forward storyline is a complete, cliched soap opera - But in the midst of a delightfully twisted horror backdrop - I feel as though this show was made for horror fans like myself. I absolutely love it.

Absolutely agreed. The dramatic narrative is pretty much soap opera (and while it's usually just over-the-top, the drama can be really well-done sometimes, too). And yeah, it seems you certainly have to be someone that gets joy out of horror as a string of wildly creative scenes and set-pieces to really appreciate the show.

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 908008)
I don't think that I'd necessarily call it "a mess" - I think that there's definitely method to the madness - I really like how it intertwines history and the present, and I have to say, the end actually made me feel wonderfully melancholic. The backstory for the doctor and Nora made me absolutely giddy - Loved it.

And getting into what I mean by "mess", I don't mean the show is unintentionally messy, like the creators have no clue what they're doing (which is what a lot of critics are saying). I think they do. They kind of say "to hell with restraint and tradition", and react on every impulse they have, which makes it cathartic to watch. Especially as a horror fan. These guys are writing to serve the genre first, and I've never really seen that before in a TV show. That's more what I mean by "mess", and this utterly unpredictable, indulgent madness is what is so delightful about watching this show.

Every episode, I can't believe this thing is getting made. A lot of critics hate it, and I'm worried about an early cancellation.

And yes! I loved the backstory for the doctor. I was thinking, "Man, they really are trying to play with every horror trope. The mad scientist was one they haven't covered yet!"

ChronoGrl 10-26-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 908050)
And getting into what I mean by "mess", I don't mean the show is unintentionally messy, like the creators have no clue what they're doing (which is what a lot of critics are saying). I think they do. They kind of say "to hell with restraint and tradition", and react on every impulse they have, which makes it cathartic to watch. Especially as a horror fan. These guys are writing to serve the genre first, and I've never really seen that before in a TV show. That's more what I mean by "mess", and this utterly unpredictable, indulgent madness is what is so delightful about watching this show.

Every episode, I can't believe this thing is getting made. A lot of critics hate it, and I'm worried about an early cancellation.

And yes! I loved the backstory for the doctor. I was thinking, "Man, they really are trying to play with every horror trope. The mad scientist was one they haven't covered yet!"


Ahh, gotcha... Well, in this case, I absolutely love this incredibly twisted mess! :D

And I feel the same way - I'm so elated that this is even MADE and on TV right now.

hammerfan 10-26-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 908050)
Every episode, I can't believe this thing is getting made. A lot of critics hate it, and I'm worried about an early cancellation.

If you look at "horror" shows from the past, such as American Gothic, they only lasted about one season. However, the well written and well acted shows, such as X-Files/Supernatural/Buffy/Angel, etc., lasted quite long. I hope this one lasts.

fortunato 10-26-2011 10:01 PM

Tonight's episode was good. I thought they lingered a little too much on the Harmons' broken marriage plot, but everything else was great. I really loved the strange, touching scene with Moira visiting her mother in the hospital.
Some great humor, too, with Burned-Face-Guy (can't remember his name) booting the kids' candy off the front porch.

hammerfan 10-27-2011 04:58 AM

Damn it, fell asleep again. :mad:

kyl3thund3r 10-28-2011 06:54 AM

bit of a late bloomer on this one, but I caught the first ep last night, and I have to say, It's caught my interest.

ChronoGrl 10-28-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 908115)
Tonight's episode was good. I thought they lingered a little too much on the Harmons' broken marriage plot, but everything else was great. I really loved the strange, touching scene with Moira visiting her mother in the hospital.
Some great humor, too, with Burned-Face-Guy (can't remember his name) booting the kids' candy off the front porch.

It was definitely good - Not great - Felt more like a "filler" episode a bit, but at the same time by the end of it I just wanted more.

Also - The focus on Jessica Lang and her daughter... Made me cryyyyyyyyy like a baby - All of it.

"I want to be a pretty girl."

SOB :(

Moira and her mother - ALSO made me cry...

fortunato 10-28-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 908255)
It was definitely good - Not great - Felt more like a "filler" episode a bit, but at the same time by the end of it I just wanted more.

Also - The focus on Jessica Lang and her daughter... Made me cryyyyyyyyy like a baby - All of it.

"I want to be a pretty girl."

SOB :(

Moira and her mother - ALSO made me cry...

Yeah, that scene with Moira was really well done. Plus, Frances Conroy is such a great actress. Did you ever watch Six Feet Under?
And poor Addy! That was another really well done scene. Jessica Lange is also a great actress.

I definitely agree; that's what I thought about the filler. When this show concentrates on the Harmons' marriage is when it's at its worst.

Apparently this episode was the first part of a two-parter. "Halloween Pt. 2" airs next Wednesday, which was the reason for the cliffhanger.

neverending 10-28-2011 09:59 PM

I think what hey're doing is a high-falutin' metaphor kinda thing- and equating a broken marraige to a horror story, so what you two see as filler, is actually the meat of the story, that every other plot revolves around. Dylan McDermott's character is literally haunted by his extra-marital affairs, and the wife is stuck in a marraige to a man she no longer loves and may very well be having another child with. Her situation is echoed by Jessica Lange's character.

I love seeing Dylan McDermott getting himself in deeper and deeper shit as time goes by. You can't help but chuckle with glee as every new twist to his story comes about.

The Villain 10-31-2011 05:35 PM

Finally watched the first episode. The acting is terrible, the characters are annoying, the pacing is weird and the story just seems off. Something about it intrigues me though and even though i'm not really all that interested i guess i'll give it at least another episode before i completely write it off.

fortunato 11-02-2011 08:45 PM

Tonight's episode was probably the most well-balanced yet. Even the drama between Ben and Vivien was pretty interesting. I loved the scenes with Tate and the kids he killed, and the ones between Constance and Violet. It seems they've settled in a little; they're finding a balance between the bat-shit horror genre puree and dramatic storytelling.

ChronoGrl 11-04-2011 11:25 AM

AHHHHH! For some reason my DVR didn't record it! :mad:

Going to have to wait until it's available On Demand...

fortunato 11-04-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 908857)
AHHHHH! For some reason my DVR didn't record it! :mad:

Going to have to wait until it's available On Demand...

Ahh, bummer! It got picked up for a second season this week, by the way.

kyl3thund3r 11-05-2011 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 908857)
AHHHHH! For some reason my DVR didn't record it! :mad:

Going to have to wait until it's available On Demand...

If you ever use torrents, you can get it from eztv.it

ChronoGrl 11-08-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 908899)
Ahh, bummer! It got picked up for a second season this week, by the way.

Oh, that's awesome!

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Originally Posted by kyl3thund3r (Post 908916)
If you ever use torrents, you can get it from eztv.it

I'll have to try it because - MOTHER FUCKER - It's still not available On Demand... Not on Hulu either... I'm genuinely surprised.

neverending 11-08-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 909211)
Oh, that's awesome!



I'll have to try it because - MOTHER FUCKER - It's still not available On Demand... Not on Hulu either... I'm genuinely surprised.

What they did last week was show the previous episode on Tuesday... I think it's getting enough viewership they want to make everyone watch it when it's over the air so they can get eyes on the ads.

ChronoGrl 11-08-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 909216)
What they did last week was show the previous episode on Tuesday... I think it's getting enough viewership they want to make everyone watch it when it's over the air so they can get eyes on the ads.

Makes sense.

I just downloaded it via Torrent and HOLY HALLOWEEN that was a fantastic episode.

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I'm still mourning Addy, but the farewell scene between her and Lang was so beautiful... The hint to Tait's backstory was devilishly pallet-wetting, and I think that McDermitt is fantastic... Great direction too - I personally love the corporeal ghost - Much more threatening and open to pathos... This episode had both; created a realistic threat but also created pathos for the poor souls who are stuck there.

I honestly have no idea how they are going to keep this momentum up for another season. Don 'g get me wrong, but - Wow - Can it keep being this seductive???

Also, man - I Want more of the Gimp Ghost. Heh.














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fortunato 11-08-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 909224)
[SPOILERS]I personally love the corporeal ghost - Much more threatening and open to pathos... This episode had both; created a realistic threat but also created pathos for the poor souls who are stuck there.[/SPOILERS]

I was just saying this exact same thing to a friend the other day! I really love how tangible these ghosts are; they become more than some 1-dimensional plot device. Just as this show compacts 100 or so years worth of horror genre into the modern day, so are decades of murder and madness packed into the modern day in that house. I certainly hope they can keep it up for however long this show ends up running.

fortunato 11-09-2011 08:22 PM

Enjoyed tonight's episode; proved once again that what makes this show so dang entertaining is its utter abandon and indulgence in catharsis. The AV Club's rather negative review makes a joke about the only motivation for this show being what will make the creators jump up and down in the writer's room. And that may be true, but it's still a lot of fun to watch.

ChronoGrl 11-12-2011 09:46 AM

Do you watch Modern Family?



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I couldn't help myself - All I could think of was - OH MY GOD THEY KILLED CAM!

LOL


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But I want your opinion... For some reason this is really bothering me - Every time they show Dylan McDermit doing his Psychologist thing, all I can think of, "Man, he's an absolutely terrible psychologist. How does he continue to find work??

My boyfriend is less bothered by it and says probably what NE would say - Dylan is lost in his own demons and they're taking over and him being a terrible Dr. caught up with him a few episodes ago when the patient committed suicide, remember? - But I just can't help but ask, "HOW DOES HE KEEP GETTING PATIENTS?! HE'S AWFUL!!"

I might just be thinking about it too personally since I've seen awful psychiatrists in the past, but for some reason this little picky-wicky-point bugs me.

Does that get to anyone else?

...

Back to this week's episode - The end was so incredibly tragic and beautiful - I absolutely love Tate's relationship with the daughter - So tragic and moving. I really loved the very last scene of them cuddling in the bed.

GOD I LOVE THIS SHOW - It's really difficult to wait to watch it week by week.

I think that the two Halloween episodes are my favorite so far and I can't wait to see more.




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Nini_luv5 11-12-2011 12:39 PM

I apologize if im repetitive at all but i avoided reading any and all comments prior to mine in this thread to avoid spoilers at all costs until i watch the remaining episodes available.

I just watched the Pilot episode on Hulu and i have to say that i am absolutely loving this show completely.

From what i watched it reminded me of The Shinning, especially in the aspect of whats happening to the father but absolutely 1000% better. And i also feel like there is a little Rose Red and Rosemary's Baby thrown in there aswell.

For instance, the fact that there is a Caretaker, that the father is seeing this old woman as a beautiful young woman (like the old woman in the tub in the shinning), the fact that the couple has just one child, that the house is haunted (obviously) and that there were twins that were murdered there except male this time.

I found it ironic how it took almost 3 hours to get across some of the ideas that were portrayed in The Shining, but it merely took just 45 minutes to say much of the same and more in American Horror Story.

Im off to the next episode. Happy Viewing :D

lovelybones 11-12-2011 06:21 PM

I'm into about 5 episodes now and I absolutely love the show. At first I found it a little cheesy and cliche but once the story progressed, the characters showed more depth and became more interesting.

I'm wondering though - will there be a second season? I'm curious because it seems like the type of show that will be very strong for the first season, but will lose interest in the second. If there is, I'm wondering if it will follow this family, or will be a complete new house and characters?

Like I said, I've only watched the first 5 episodes, so my question may be answered in the next few. But I'm still curious!

fortunato 11-12-2011 06:55 PM

^FX confirmed a second season for the show last week.

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 909445)
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But I want your opinion... For some reason this is really bothering me - Every time they show Dylan McDermit doing his Psychologist thing, all I can think of, "Man, he's an absolutely terrible psychologist. How does he continue to find work??

My boyfriend is less bothered by it and says probably what NE would say - Dylan is lost in his own demons and they're taking over and him being a terrible Dr. caught up with him a few episodes ago when the patient committed suicide, remember? - But I just can't help but ask, "HOW DOES HE KEEP GETTING PATIENTS?! HE'S AWFUL!!"

I might just be thinking about it too personally since I've seen awful psychiatrists in the past, but for some reason this little picky-wicky-point bugs me.

Does that get to anyone else?

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Haha, I've been thinking the same thing. How in the world is he getting patients? He's certainly a terrible doctor, which was touched on with the suicide thing (although that ostensibly had more to do with that kind of trance he was in), but yeah, I can't imagine how he's getting these people. They've never talked about how he advertises or anything, either.
But yeah, I'm with you.

Elvis_Christ 11-12-2011 10:28 PM

He's probably the cheapest one in town and people have to make do with him.

The last two episodes were great can't wait for the next one.

neverending 11-12-2011 10:33 PM

Yes, he's a terrible Dr., a terrible husband... he's just terrible. People who are terrible at what they do sometimes just seem to be successful. It doesn't bother me that much cuz I know at some point he's going to get what's coming to him for being such a terrible person... and it's going to be bad...

fortunato 11-12-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 909498)
Yes, he's a terrible Dr., a terrible husband... he's just terrible. People who are terrible at what they do sometimes just seem to be successful. It doesn't bother me that much cuz I know at some point he's going to get what's coming to him for being such a terrible person... and it's going to be bad...

Definitely. I'd say he's already gotten at least some of it, especially with Hayden coming back from the dead and that burned-face guy blackmailing him and so on.

neverending 11-19-2011 10:24 PM

Was there an episode this week? I completely forgot about watching it again!

TheWickerFan 11-20-2011 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 910114)
Was there an episode this week? I completely forgot about watching it again!

Yeah, there was. I'm completely hooked.:D

ChronoGrl 11-20-2011 06:17 PM

This last episode was fantastic...



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EEEEE! Two more horror tropes in the first ten minutes! Deformed son in the attic AND ROSEMARY'S TWINS?! Love it.

This show just keeps impressing me - I'm absolutely hooked. My biggest issue is having to wait a week to watch the next episode.



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And I agree what everyone's said about Dylan McDermit being a horrible doctor - Oh, he will definitely get his comeuppance, and with this week him reaching out to Tait in an effort to connect with his daughter... Really sweet.

Elvis_Christ 11-20-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 910201)
I'm absolutely hooked. My biggest issue is having to wait a week to watch the next episode.

Yeah me too! The last three episodes have really sucked me into it.

Is this rating well in the states? Hoping it gets more than one season.

fortunato 11-20-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 910215)
Yeah me too! The last three episodes have really sucked me into it.

Is this rating well in the states? Hoping it gets more than one season.

I think the ratings are pretty good stateside.
A couple weeks ago, FX confirmed a second season:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/31/am...ed-season-two/

Nini_luv5 11-21-2011 05:30 PM

I have to re-watch last weeks episode.... i totally fell asleep

The Villain 11-21-2011 07:00 PM

So after one episode i decided to not even bother watching anymore. I have way too many shows to watch that i'm really behind on and not enough time to watch those which i'm actually interested in. I'm not gonna force myself to watch a show that i really am not interested in at all. I just couldnt stand the characters and the acting and the pacing. It sucks because i really wanted to like it and was going to give it more of a chance. Maybe someday i'll go back to it and check it out.

fortunato 11-26-2011 10:40 PM

Have to admit, I wasn't crazy about this past episode. I thought it really interrupted the velocity the show seems to have. It felt like it was just walking around in circles. There were some really cool scenes, but there was just way too much retread over already-established plot points and even gave us completely useless information (i.e. how the suit was acquired).

ChronoGrl 11-27-2011 07:00 AM

I agree to some extent, though how they're driving Vivien Harmon crazy is absolutely breaking my heart! Plus the deaths of the gay couple broke my heart a little too.

So in terms of The Suit, I feel as though we pretty much surmised on here that it was Tate who had sex with her, but Mark thought it was a pretty twisted little reveal - I guess since I had already assumed it was Tate, it wasn't much of a reveal for me... But Mark thought it was pretty creepy.

REALLY stupid question: The scene where Hayden is having sex with the guy and then stabs him and he's OK... Who is that? I couldn't place it... Was it Constance's husband that she shot?

fortunato 11-27-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 910814)
I agree to some extent, though how they're driving Vivien Harmon crazy is absolutely breaking my heart! Plus the deaths of the gay couple broke my heart a little too.

So in terms of The Suit, I feel as though we pretty much surmised on here that it was Tate who had sex with her, but Mark thought it was a pretty twisted little reveal - I guess since I had already assumed it was Tate, it wasn't much of a reveal for me... But Mark thought it was pretty creepy.

Yeah, the reveal was disappointing, since like you said, we'd all assumed it was Tate anyway. The scenes with Vivien going crazy were really well-done.

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 910814)
REALLY stupid question: The scene where Hayden is having sex with the guy and then stabs him and he's OK... Who is that? I couldn't place it... Was it Constance's husband that she shot?

That's what I assumed, too. I don't really remember what Constance's husband looked like, but I couldn't think of anyone else it could be.

Elvis_Christ 11-27-2011 05:05 PM

I was hoping for something more sinister to do with the suit i.e someone other than Tate. I was expecting some sort of twist because I thought they were just fooling everyone that it was Tate by making it so obvious. I was hoping he just borrowed it for Halloween and there was a more powerful darker entity behind the suit.

fortunato 11-27-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 910849)
I was hoping for something more sinister to do with the suit i.e someone other than Tate. I was expecting some sort of twist because I thought they were just fooling everyone that it was Tate by making it so obvious. I was hoping he just borrowed it for Halloween and there was a more powerful darker entity behind the suit.

Yeah, definitely. Same here.


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