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fluffho 01-25-2004 04:54 PM

... yuo are a very angry person. but if thats how you wanna be fine

all i can say is i have a great bf and my greatest friends ive ever had were guys

and no, hes not the one that cheated on me. it was the opposite actually

but hey.. more guys for me!! MUAHHAHAHAAHAA

anyways.. im gorgeous so who else would he need?

StepfatherFan 01-25-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by fluffho
... yuo are a very angry person. but if thats how you wanna be fine

all i can say is i have a great bf and my greatest friends ive ever had were guys

and no, hes not the one that cheated on me. it was the opposite actually

but hey.. more guys for me!! MUAHHAHAHAAHAA

anyways.. im gorgeous so who else would he need?

Honey, Uma Thurman is gorgous too, but that didn't keep Ethan Hawke out of another woman's bed.

fluffho 01-25-2004 05:02 PM

well many think jennifer aniston is beautiful

and she and brad have been together for quite some time now..

jada and will have beeen goin strong.. lots of couples

anyways u cant compare celebrity couples
theres lots more than looks that breaks them up they have hectic schedules and hardly see each other and thats hard on ANY relationship no matter how ugly, beautiful, loyal

StepfatherFan 01-25-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by fluffho
well many think jennifer aniston is beautiful

and she and brad have been together for quite some time now..

jada and will have beeen goin strong.. lots of couples

anyways u cant compare celebrity couples
theres lots more than looks that breaks them up they have hectic schedules and hardly see each other and thats hard on ANY relationship no matter how ugly, beautiful, loyal

Yes, those are 2 good examples. But men like Brad and Will are hard to come by.

Arioch 01-25-2004 05:32 PM

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I DO NOT HATE MEN I hate some men's attitudes and the way they behave. If I hate men so much, then tell me this, WHY am I constantly talking about Terry O'Quinn and posting his naked ass pics on this site? Yeah Ho', that really makes sense. By the way, I was disscusing this with Sam, not you. PS As for your boyfriend who "loves" you so much, I'm sure that if saaaay......Angelina Jolie walked up to him and offered to give him a blow job, he would scarf up on the oppertunity without even thinking twice about how much damage it would do to your relationship with him. That is, if he would even tell you he did it. A lot of guys like to lie about that shit. They firgure that your better off not knowing about it. Don't tell me about men, I'm older than you and have more expieriance with the subject. I used to think like you, then I woke up and started living in REALITY.
You know what?THats really sad. The fact that youve had problems with guys so you think they are all not loyal and would cheat on you and break you in a heart beat. I understand you point of view and felt the same way about women (still do sometimes)

Ive been nothing but the nice guy, who treats women like princesses every day. Only to be cheated on and broken more times than i can count. Believe me nice guys ARE out there. And they WOULD treat you like you deserve to be treated. But youll never notice them becuase they're not the bad boy, the attention getter, they are the quiet guys in the corner worshiping you from afar and youll probably go through your whole life never knowing it.

Mr_Dizzle 01-25-2004 06:08 PM

No, Stepfatherfan, I wouldn't do anything like that.

Sorry, I don't cheat on the girl I love.

Even if they do cheat on me.

StepfatherFan 01-25-2004 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Arioch
You know what?THats really sad. The fact that youve had problems with guys so you think they are all not loyal and would cheat on you and break you in a heart beat. I understand you point of view and felt the same way about women (still do sometimes)

Ive been nothing but the nice guy, who treats women like princesses every day. Only to be cheated on and broken more times than i can count. Believe me nice guys ARE out there. And they WOULD treat you like you deserve to be treated. But youll never notice them becuase they're not the bad boy, the attention getter, they are the quiet guys in the corner worshiping you from afar and youll probably go through your whole life never knowing it.

Well, thank you for your response. What you say makes a lot of sense and all. If women have done you like that, then you are entitled to hold some resentment towards them. THAT is a real reason for a guy to have problems with women, not because he feels them to be inferior. I'm sorry that your girlfriends have cheated on you. Ive never actualy had a guy cheat on me, but Ive seen them do it to my friends or family. Your right about the "bad boy" thing. It seems that no matter how much I would like to be with a good guy, they never seem to have any appeal to me. I don't know, maybe I'm just a masochist. Maybe your the same because you seem to always get involved with the bad girls. Who knows. I'm pretty happy with being celibate and drooling over famous men. LOL Besides, my son is the focas of my life, not some guy. Anyway, you really said some meaningful things. I can tell that you have a good head on your shoulders. :)

Haunted 01-25-2004 06:14 PM

Listen, I know where SFF is coming from. I've had some SERIOUSLY bad situations with men (nuff said). The reaction is almost a type of shock. It just takes a breakthrough. Yelling at her is not going to change anything. In fact, it's just going to make it worse.

Sometimes it just takes someone. My ex was great. He was wonderful. We're not together any more because he lived very far away. For awhile I was really angry at him, but then I realized how great he was. My point is, you can't be told that men aren't all evil. You have to see it.

bloodrayne 01-25-2004 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by Haunted
My point is, you can't be told that men aren't all evil. You have to see it.
I used to think that all men were the same...I was recently proven wrong...

Oh man, was I proven wrong!...LOL;) :)

StepfatherFan 01-25-2004 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
I used to think that all men were the same...I was recently proven wrong...

Oh man, was I proven wrong!...LOL;) :)

hehe Sounds like it was an enjoyable expieriance. :D

bloodrayne 01-25-2004 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by StepfatherFan
hehe Sounds like it was an enjoyable expieriance. :D

Still is...:)

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-25-2004 09:31 PM

There's a book that deals with this topic that's somewhat of a classic in horror film theory; it's called Men, Women, and Chain Saws, by the feminist Carol Clover. She's also a talking head in a lot of horror documentaries, especially that great one called American Nightmares IFC did two Halloweens back.

She's the one who coined the term "Final Girl" to describe the last girl in every slasher movie, and now it's used in every serious book about horror. Definitely worth checking out.

Sam The Egg 01-25-2004 09:40 PM

I'm reluctant to read anything by a feminist, lest I be told I'm evil for having a penis

StepfatherFan 01-25-2004 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
I'm reluctant to read anything by a feminist, lest I be told I'm evil for having a penis
I understand, Sam. Which is the same reason why I am reluctant to watch shows like The Supranos, or movies like Raging Bull, where women are treated like garbage cans and slapped and called whore or bitch every five minutes. I don't like movies which suggest that women are evil because they want to get through one day without being discriminated against.

Sam The Egg 01-25-2004 10:07 PM

have you even seen either of those things? I shouldn't even have to bother with the Sopranos, and Raging Bull was a character study, not a glorification. Get a sense of context for the love of God

StepfatherFan 01-25-2004 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
have you even seen either of those things? I shouldn't even have to bother with the Sopranos, and Raging Bull was a character study, not a glorification. Get a sense of context for the love of God
Oh, I guess I'm not entitled to my opinion. As you so often say "lighten up." :cool:

Sam The Egg 01-25-2004 10:58 PM

You're entitled to your opinion on things you've seen, but you haven't answered the question.
Have you even seen either of those? The actions aren't glorified.

Sam The Egg 01-25-2004 10:58 PM

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As you so often say "lighten up."
Difference is, 99% of the time I am lightened up.

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-26-2004 11:32 AM

I think horror needs more women writers and directors; Anne Rice has moved further and further into fantasy, and Poppy Z. has never had any of her works translated into film.

I LOVE exploitaion, don't get me wrong, but for too long horror has had a "boys only" attititude---most of the titilation has dealt with women in peril, or worse (branded, whipped, etc). I think it's wrong to blow this up and say all horror movies humiliate and degrade women, but I think it does reflect the twelve-year-old boy mentality of the genre as a whole.

donniedarko3 01-26-2004 11:42 AM

blah blah blah...



there are two types of women in the slasher. theres the slut with the big boobs and cut off jean shorts that does the majority of the screaming (in bed and while being chased by the killer); and then there is the intelligent, strong-willed survivor that ends up either escaping the killer or kicking his ass and then escaping him.
I feel its a good representation of how women are in society too. There are the ones that dont bring any respect to themselves and endure degradation for attention and survival. Then there are the ones that endure all opposition and prevail in situations the may be difficult using their intelligence and other capabilities. And who knows, she might have big boobs too. Who says that the intelligent survivor cant be attractive?

I actually respect women far more than I respect men just because most of them that I have encountered have used their brains more than men ever will. Unfortunately there are also those "bimbos" out there that give other women bad names.

Im tired as hell right now, does any of this make sense?

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-26-2004 11:46 AM

So your argument is that life breaks down into a slasher movie. I'm sure Ed Gein would agree. Too bad he's not alive, you could go over to his house and drink Kool-Aid from skull-cups.

avenged_soul 01-26-2004 11:55 AM

Re: how do you think women are represented in slasher film
 
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Originally posted by keiner
how do you think that women represented in the slasher?

like scared little girls who always run to their mommies!!!! or was that the men......???????:p -hehe- im a girl and i find myself to be very intimidating!!!!!! FEAR ME ONE AND ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or pretend im not even here. w/e i dont care.

nightbreed 01-26-2004 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Dr.Kelvinstein
So your argument is that life breaks down into a slasher movie. I'm sure Ed Gein would agree. Too bad he's not alive, you could go over to his house and drink Kool-Aid from skull-cups.
lol!

StepfatherFan 01-26-2004 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by donniedarko3
blah blah blah...



there are two types of women in the slasher. theres the slut with the big boobs and cut off jean shorts that does the majority of the screaming (in bed and while being chased by the killer); and then there is the intelligent, strong-willed survivor that ends up either escaping the killer or kicking his ass and then escaping him.
I feel its a good representation of how women are in society too. There are the ones that dont bring any respect to themselves and endure degradation for attention and survival. Then there are the ones that endure all opposition and prevail in situations the may be difficult using their intelligence and other capabilities. And who knows, she might have big boobs too. Who says that the intelligent survivor cant be attractive?

I actually respect women far more than I respect men just because most of them that I have encountered have used their brains more than men ever will. Unfortunately there are also those "bimbos" out there that give other women bad names.

Im tired as hell right now, does any of this make sense?

That actualy made a LOT of sense. We need more guys like you on the board. ;) Good post.

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 04:26 PM

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I actually respect women far more than I respect men just because most of them that I have encountered have used their brains more than men ever will.
Funny, most people I know (I know a lot of women, too) don't have any brains to use in the first place.

95% of the people in the world are idiots, no matter the gender.

StepfatherFan 01-26-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
95% of the people in the world are idiots, no matter the gender.
Does this percentage include or exclude yourself?

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 04:33 PM

I have personal bias, but the people who know me personally have put me in the 5%

And before anybody says anything about it, yes, women make up the majority of the 5% by virtue of the fact that women make up the majority of the population.

fluffho 01-26-2004 04:34 PM

i too am in the 5%

StepfatherFan 01-26-2004 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
I have personal bias, but the people who know me personally have put me in the 5%

And before anybody says anything about it, yes, women make up the majority of the 5% by virtue of the fact that women make up the majority of the population.

Yes, there ARE more women than men in the world, and yet its still a man's world. Go figure.:rolleyes: You know, I almost had a cow last night when I checked out your profile for the first time and realised that your birthdate is the same as mine.

PS Terry O'Quinn's is the 15th of July. Heh You certainly don't behave like the typical Cancer. Then again, neither do I. Probably because of the Leo rising.

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 04:42 PM

Astrology horrorscope stuff = ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

StepfatherFan 01-26-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Astrology horrorscope stuff = ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz
Well, I LOVE astrology. Its one of my favorite hobbies. Its surprisingly accurate.


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